Well folks I was back in the states on leave and found out my BB was stolen. What makes it worse is that it was my father that did it. He was supposed to send me a tube with my bow, a hand tooled tube quiver, and about 2 dozen arrows to me shortly after I was stationed in Germany. I never got it and he went incommunicado and 1.5 years later I go back and found out that he pawned it all along with 3 other cheap bows and most likely one of my rifles. He refused to talk to me and there was nothing I or the sheriffs department could do.
So if any of ya in near south MO picked up a 57@28 tulipwood buffalo bow just know that it was stolen property and that it was stolen from a serviceman while stationed overseas.
Sorry this happend to you. I hope you get it back.
That is some sad stuff there. Bummer! Sorry to hear it...
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I am sorry about your loss!!!
Sorry to hear that !! Thank you keeping us safe !
What a knife in the back. I am sorry. Do you need a loaner bow to hold you over?
Do you know where he pawned it. You might be able to track some of it down and work something out to get it back.
Oh my, a stolen bow is bad enough, but stolen trust and losing a father, devastating. I wish I could help you somehow. But an old lady can't be a father, and a bow of mine might be close but no match. I can make arrows, and simple quivers.
I can join you in righteous anger, but to heal your heart will take your own years and tears, and an iron promise to yourself to be a true father to your children, and to show them the ways of honesty, loyalty, respect and love.
If my poor offerings could be of any use, PM me.
Thank you for your service. Doing what you do makes it possible for me to do what I do.
Killdeer
QuoteOriginally posted by Killdeer:
Oh my, a stolen bow is bad enough, but stolen trust and losing a father, devastating. I wish I could help you somehow. But an old lady can't be a father, and a bow of mine might be close but no match. I can make arrows, and simple quivers.
I can join you in righteous anger, but to heal your heart will take your own years and tears, and an iron promise to yourself to be a true father to your children, and to show them the ways of honesty, loyalty, respect and love.
If my poor offerings could be of any use, PM me.
Thank you for your service. Doing what you do makes it possible for me to do what I do.
Killdeer
Well said as always.......
QuoteOriginally posted by Killdeer:
Oh my, a stolen bow is bad enough, but stolen trust and losing a father, devastating. I wish I could help you somehow. But an old lady can't be a father, and a bow of mine might be close but no match. I can make arrows, and simple quivers.
I can join you in righteous anger, but to heal your heart will take your own years and tears, and an iron promise to yourself to be a true father to your children, and to show them the ways of honesty, loyalty, respect and love.
If my poor offerings could be of any use, PM me.
Thank you for your service. Doing what you do makes it possible for me to do what I do.
Killdeer
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sorry to hear about this, and thank you for your service!!!
Don't know how far you want to go with it since he is your father and don't know what state this happened in, but here in Oklahoma- false declaration of ownership at a pawn shop is a felony.
If he claimed them as his own and sold or pawned them then he can be prosecuted.
Blake I have a Kodiak Hunter that is looking to be shot if needed.P.M. me I can send it to you.I cannot give it to you b/c I bought it from a collage kid that needed money and promised to give it back to him if he finished collage.Kip
I lost a 1959 MGA 1600 the same way. Left it with my dad to sell, then when I got married over in Germany my wife said let's keep it. I wrote him and told him not to sell it and he said too late - it was already sold. Later claimed it was stolen and I never saw a dime. I think there are times it's better to hold your tongue, bite the bullet, take the hit, or whatever you want to call it. We parted friends when he died. That would probably not have been the case if I'd called him a liar.
By the way, my wife is going over to Germany for a family reunion. If you would like to borrow my 50# Whisperstick recurve or 45# Shakespere recurve, she could probably carry it over there. She's going initially to Amsterdam for a few days, but then back down into Germany planning to tour Bavaria. I don't think poundage is an issue as you won't be hunbting with it over there :-(
PM me if this would help at all.
Ron
Blake-sorry to hear this happened to you. These are hard times and people are doing bad things that they normally would not do. There is much negativity in this country and we are forgetting how we should be treating eachother. God bless your father and you. I hope you get your bow back somehow! Thanks.
Kenny :bigsmyl:
Wow ,I ll second waht killdeer said.Hope you find your bow.
This ain't good from any direction.
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Sorry that is awful
Sorry to hear that bud. I wish I had something to offer you. Thank you for your service, and again, I'm sorry that this happened to you.
Thanks for the support everybody. But let's try to not argue about forgiveness or not. And please for the sake of a public forum leave god out of it, we all follow different gods and beliefs. Also thanks for the offer of a bow but I was lucky enough to get my taxes back the week before I found out and have bought something in the weight range. Still I'm out my custom Buff and that will someday need to be remedied.
The worst is I found out so far after the fact, and after the pawn shop had already sold my gear at auction, that the sheriff can't do much unless I give them serial numbers.
As far as my father is concerned he had nothing of worth of his own to make a few bucks on. He knew that my bow was about my most prized possession and my only custom. After I found out it was missing he lied to me and I caught him in the lie, he hung up the phone on me and refused to answer a message or talk. I'm not a young kid, I've spent the last 10 years trying to get him to sober up and get his life together. He's refused all help from me and dug his hole deeper with DUI's and skipping out on dealing with them by moving to a different state and staying under the radar until he gets another.
After the abuse I suffered at the hands of my mother and how she royally screwed me over 7 years ago getting me in legal trouble and some other issues and the fact that she refuses to tell the truth about it, he knew what would happen. There is no forgiveness without truth.
As far as I'm concerned if you can't tell the truth to me you aren't worth my time and I won't bother talking with you. There is little worse in this world than liars and thieves and I among many feel as much for them as I would for a rapist or a murderer.
Somehow even with as screwed up as my parents are I've always been of the belief that a parents primary purpose in life is raising a child and doing whatever they can to provide a better life for their child than they themselves had. A parents responsibility is to their child, not a husband or wife or whatever form of significant other because when they put everything to their lover they abuse the child. I once had a girlfriend that said she would save me from a burning house before our child (if we had one) because we could always have another--- sorry girl but you're gone.
I rant and go on about somethings but the purpose of the message was to watch out for your stuff, trust no one, and maybe if possible keep your eye out for a tulipwood Buff bow.
Thanks again all for the support and the offers of bows. One of these days I'll get another Buff, I think I'll go yew back and osage belly with a texas ebony riser, keeping it American.
Very well put Blake. Most of all Thank you for your service.
I feel for your loss, but it sounds as though you were deprived of more than just a special bow. Sounds as though you were robbed of the feeling that your parents would always be there for you. Fortunately, I had a very good childhood and it wasn't until my adult years that my folks got caught up in trying to live beyond their means and resorted to cheating. I was still able to look my dad in the eye and tell him I loved him when he lay dying.
As for never trust anyone - no thanks. That would be giving up more than I'm willing to give up. I've had unbelievably generous equipment loans from Trad Gangers. I've bought and sold stuff on here with never a thought about getting cheated.
Sure, I'll get burned eventually. I was once stiffed by a knife customer. I haven't quit making knives and haven't quit trusting people and 99.9% of them return that trust and the world is a more enjoyable place for me.
I'm not speaking from a religious standpoint - I'm just saying that's the way I have to live to enjoy my life. If I have to start distrusting everyone, I will not be a very happy camper. I hope you have a very positive event in your life soon that will restore some missing pleasure. Sounds like you are way overdue for one.
By the way, I spent 20 years in Germany. I hope you're at least able to get some enjoyment from a country that is very different from ours. Not better, nor worse, but definitely different. I was there when the Status of Forces meant we were getting a quota of their game harvest and some of my best hunting memories are from there. Maybe someday the archery industry will put enough pressure on the government to allow bow hunting too. Waidmannsheil.
QuoteOriginally posted by Bladepeek:
I feel for your loss, but it sounds as though you were deprived of more than just a special bow. Sounds as though you were robbed of the feeling that your parents would always be there for you. Fortunately, I had a very good childhood and it wasn't until my adult years that my folks got caught up in trying to live beyond their means and resorted to cheating. I was still able to look my dad in the eye and tell him I loved him when he lay dying.
As for never trust anyone - no thanks. That would be giving up more than I'm willing to give up. I've had unbelievably generous equipment loans from Trad Gangers. I've bought and sold stuff on here with never a thought about getting cheated.
Sure, I'll get burned eventually. I was once stiffed by a knife customer. I haven't quit making knives and haven't quit trusting people and 99.9% of them return that trust and the world is a more enjoyable place for me.
I'm not speaking from a religious standpoint - I'm just saying that's the way I have to live to enjoy my life. If I have to start distrusting everyone, I will not be a very happy camper. I hope you have a very positive event in your life soon that will restore some missing pleasure. Sounds like you are way overdue for one.
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Well put :thumbsup:
Blake, Sorry for what happened to you.
I read your first post and the post's that followed it. Then I came across your last one and I have to say that all the people who posted were very empathetic toward your predicament. Buy I also have to say that the statement about "And please for the sake of a public forum leave god out of it, we all follow different gods and beliefs" was a little rude. People speak kind thoughts and give empathy in the way they believe with God or without.
I was not sure after reading your last post what the purpose of the thread was ( Empathy, Venting,recovery of the bow?). But it seams as though you may want to seek a professional to talk to about the things that happened in the past. Those should not be on a open archery forum.
If the responses of the folks on here are not a good example of trustworthy people then I dont know what is.
I hope you find a bow to replace the one you lost, and things get better for you. I spent a lot of time over seas in the Marine Corps and understand how things that happen on the home front that you cant control can get you upset and in an unhappy position. Semper Fi And may the future bring you happy times.Tim