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Title: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: rluttrell on March 27, 2012, 09:43:00 PM
Let me start out by saying this will be my 1st hunt of any kind. I have been invited to hunt Turkeys in New Jersey. I asked if i can use my bow instead of a shotgun. He said sure and good luck.
My arrows are Bemans MFX 400's with a 100 grain field point. What tip or point would you suggest?
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: Turkhunter on March 27, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
Make sure your arrows are tuned to your bow and use a good sharp broadhead. Turkeys are a lot tougher than you would think they are so use a tough broadhead. After reviewing your set up in your signature line I fear your choice of arrow is probably too stiff for your bow, so be sure you are shooting the right arrow to achieve optimum flight and penetration. Turkeys have a small vital zone(compared to say deer)and their feathers are suprisingly hard to penetrate. Have fun and call em in close.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: Rob W. on March 27, 2012, 10:13:00 PM
If you are going to stick with that weight head I would go with Steelforce, Phantoms or Stingers. All are great heads.

Steelforce makes one of the best 100gr. heads IMO. The longer premium 4bld.

If you end up needing a heavier head VPA or Zwickey.

Rob
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: OS on March 27, 2012, 10:26:00 PM
I,m a big fan of shooting the biggest head I can shoot accurately. I would also agree with the spine of your arrows.  Make sure you have good flight, I could see the 400 spine if your shooting a 175 or 200 grain head, but as long as there flying good run with it.  Have fun and good luck
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: rluttrell on March 27, 2012, 11:20:00 PM
Quote. After reviewing your set up in your signature line I fear your choice of arrow is probably too stiff for your bow,
I should of said  my draw is 31 inches and my bow is 54 pounds at my draw. I did try 340's and 500's . The 400's flew the best.
I am nervous about going but the excitement out ways being nervous.

Thank you guys for responding keep'em coming
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: old_goat2 on March 27, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
My buddies are quite successful at taking turkeys with bow, they swear by shooting at the turkey only from fore or aft. Put your hands together thumbs touching and palms facing away, that is a good representation of turkey lungs, imagine trying to hit a target that size from the side then from the front or back. They like to use 4 blade stingers or similar with the bleeder blades being completely dulled. Now somebody will come on and poo poo all over the advice of dulling the bleeders, but what that does if it works right is keep the arrow in the bird and with an arrow sticking out it is much harder for the bird to crawl into the thick brush. Now the main blade should be shaving sharp. Another good option is a big three blade snuffer or VPA or the like. All the blades should be sharp on it:) I personally am using Magnus Bullheads and Stingers. Good luck, if you get some birds in, it will be one of the highpoints of your life.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: Lefty on March 28, 2012, 07:28:00 AM
I would recommend a large 3 blade head as well.  Know where to shoot the turkey and know the distance that you can accurately hit the kill zone.  Turkeys are tough and if shot low or foward in the breast, they probably aren't going to die.  Hit them high, watch them die.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: huskyarcher on March 28, 2012, 11:21:00 AM
First think about what you want out of this hunt, i dont want to be discouraging but IMO turkeys are some of the toughest animals to successfly take with a stick and string, with a blind its easier, but still a mile off from a garauntee.

If you want the experience and a good time, and dont really c are about the turkeys go for it, but if you want to kill a turkey, you might be disappointed, i would hate to see somebody get dissapointed aand want to quit simply because they didnt kill.

In whatever you do good luck!!! Pick a spot!
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: rluttrell on March 28, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
QuoteFirst think about what you want out of this hunt, i dont want to be discouraging but IMO turkeys are some of the toughest animals to successfly take with a stick and string, with a blind its easier, but still a mile off from a garauntee  
I am looking forward to the experience more than anything.  Don't get me wrong I would love to get the turkey and have him come and drop by my feet. Isn't that how it works?   :pray:    :pray:
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: old_goat2 on March 28, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
Get some 100gr Magnus Bullheads and go for the head neck shot,it's either a kill shot that way or the arrow will bounce off them if you hit low and body shoot them.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: old_goat2 on March 28, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
Oh and a big tip on shooting from a blind, take a couple practice  shots, its REAL easy to hit the blind walls with a limb and it will make your arrows fly ways you have likely never seen before!
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: huntsmanlance on March 28, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
Hello from another newbie turkey hunter!

Read this thread about Joebucks post on turkey hunting....
 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=113791;p=1  

Look for his post on PBS ....a whole lot of great experience shared there.....and click on Terrys link for the kill zone.

And good luck!!!
Lance
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: Pope Co. on March 28, 2012, 02:07:00 PM
Are we talking about a tent being the blind? If so 10X what old_goat2 said. Also make sure the tent is tall enough for you and your bow. I have a tent that I can't shoot my bow out of. If I'm sitting on a stool the tent is to short. If I'm kneeling the window is to high.

Some of the old timers around my neck of the woods put a washer on between the shaft and the broadhead. This accomplished what old_goat2 said about dulling the bleeders. It is cheap. The down side is it adds weight. If your shooting short distances it may not be a problem.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: Hoyt on March 28, 2012, 07:33:00 PM
If it were me and I was going to be by myself in a blind and didn't know how to call turkeys. I'd get one of those Pushpin calls.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: bsoper on March 28, 2012, 09:03:00 PM
It will be my second turkey hunt, my first was unsuccessful. I am wondering what happens if I blow an arrow through its wing and part of it's body, but don't hit anything vital? Can I chase it down and cut it's throat so it doesn't have to die later from injuries or will it most likely get away?
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: Charlie Lamb on March 28, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
If you don't hit anything vital you probably won't ever see the bird again. If you should happen to chase one down be careful about jumping on it if the broadhead is still in it.

Consider using a multiblade head and DON'T dull any of the  blades. Turkeys are hard to penetrate in the first place and in the second place counting on the arrow slowing the bird down is grasping at straws.

A string tracker can make a huge difference in dependable recovery.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: old_goat2 on March 28, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie Lamb:
If you don't hit anything vital you probably won't ever see the bird again. If you should happen to chase one down be careful about jumping on it if the broadhead is still in it.

Consider using a multiblade head and DON'T dull any of the  blades. Turkeys are hard to penetrate in the first place and in the second place counting on the arrow slowing the bird down is grasping at straws.

A string tracker can make a huge difference in dependable recovery.
told you somebody would come along and poo poo on what I said, you can count on it on here
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: bsoper on March 28, 2012, 10:37:00 PM
I have some razor sharp 4 blade stingers. Hope they will do the job!
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: JamesKerr on March 29, 2012, 12:53:00 AM
I would use the widest 3 or 4 blade I could find in that weight.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: redpepper49 on March 29, 2012, 07:35:00 AM
Shoot at him when he first gets in range . It is more fun to talk about than a miss at five steps.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: TomBow on March 29, 2012, 09:14:00 AM
If your using decoys, put them CLOSE to the blind to help bring the birds close.  I have had birds within a few yards of the blind and most of the time they won't shy away from the blind.  Good advice on making sure the blind is big enough, as well as watching window height.  If you can bring a few blunts, you can take a practice shot or two to make sure you have full clearance.  A few bungee cords can help to lower the bottom of the windows.  As far as calls, I found that a slate can be the easiest to get good sounds from with minimal practice.  The NWTF (National Wild Turkey Federation) website contains files of wild turkey calls for your research.  Best of Luck.  Even if you don't get a bird, calling and getting a response from the turkeys will hook you on Turkey hunting.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: tarponnut on March 29, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
Ditto on practicing from a blind. I missed one last year because I didn't pratice from inside the blind. I use big Snuffers are that shaving sharp.
If you can chase down a non-vital hit turkey, God bless ya!lol
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: tarponnut on March 29, 2012, 09:40:00 AM
For calls, I like a box call, they are easy to use and you can get a lot of volume when you need it.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: Charlie Lamb on March 29, 2012, 10:15:00 AM
My "opinion" is based on many years of turkey hunting and not based on what my buddies tell me.

And everyone's opinion is welcome and you can count on THAT on here.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: FerretWYO on March 29, 2012, 10:51:00 AM
I have taken somewhere around 30 tukerys with a bow. They are a tough kill. I tried the dulled blades before and would never do it again. Sharp is the only way for me.
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: Guru on March 29, 2012, 11:02:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by old_goat2:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie Lamb:
If you don't hit anything vital you probably won't ever see the bird again. If you should happen to chase one down be careful about jumping on it if the broadhead is still in it.

Consider using a multiblade head and DON'T dull any of the  blades. Turkeys are hard to penetrate in the first place and in the second place counting on the arrow slowing the bird down is grasping at straws.

A string tracker can make a huge difference in dependable recovery.
told you somebody would come along and poo poo on what I said, you can count on it on here [/b]
Sorry David, But I fail to see anyone "poo-pooing"
on what you said...fortunately you're way wrong about the folks here! Your attitude about how things "work" around here is also fortunately, not the norm.

Charlie was speaking from his experience, and I can tell you from my experience, and I've killed a "few' turkeys myself...what Charlie said is spot on from "my experience"!

We're in the field doing it ourselves, figuring things out first hand...not going on what someone told us.

Sorry to "poo-poo" on you now, but you kinda brought it on yourself...carry-on...
Title: Re: Hunting Turkey help
Post by: rluttrell on March 29, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
QuoteLet me start out by saying this will be my 1st hunt of any kind. I have been invited to hunt Turkeys in New Jersey. I asked if i can use my bow instead of a shotgun. He said sure and good luck.
My arrows are Bemans MFX 400's with a 100 grain field point. What tip or point would you suggest?  
Let's get this back on track here.  1st Thank you everyone, that has taken the time to post a response to my question.   I appreciate it very much wish me luck, if you have more ideas please don't stop writing I will come back and visit this thread often
I can use all the help you guys want to give