i am constantly amazed on how subtle changes affect arrow flight and shooting. no matter how much i read or how much somebody helps and shows me things i STILL think it does not make a big difference UNTILL i actually try it. today for instance i am raining 10 rings when i think my string has stretched a little so i adjust brace height by a couple twists, did NOT measure just looked a little low to me. well i continue shooting and its going down hill and i'm getting frustrated. start changing weight on the points and its UGLY! about that time i figure gee maye i should measure brace height, yup about a 1/2 inch to high but i figure can that really make that much of a difference????? ummmmmmm YEAH STUPID it can and will!!!!! took me awhile to sort out the point weights again but then it all came back together. sheesh this stuff can be frustrating but then when ya straighten it out ohhhhh what fun!!!!!! i need to pay more attention to deatail and the little things!
Don't beat yourself too harshly Ken.
I'm one of those folks that doesn't pay much attention to the details either and as the result it takes me longer to figure things out.
I just go with it and keep my focus on "my journey".
God bless,Mudd
Those "small details" will get you everytime. :D
Just went through the same thing learning how to sharpen a 2 blade broadhead. Seems easy and it is.......if you pay attention.
yep. if it aint broke.............
I once completly disassembled a GN quiver, changed strings, and changed silencer position to get rid of weird sound that ended up being my wedding ring hitting the riser. :D
Glad I'm not the only one.
Rob
I have done the same EXACT thing. For something so simple, a stick and a string, it can sure get confusing sometimes. :banghead:
Glad you found your way back to your brace height before you drove yourself completely crazy.
Hmm, I have to say I am somewhat inattentive about the small stuff. This will give me another excuse to pull out when shooting with friends. :goldtooth:
Been their before!!! Actually so many times I can kinda make stupid look good ;)
If your hitting ten rings one after the other, don't change nothing until you stop hitting ten rings one after the other. Don't make this harder than it already is! Ken we have known each other for a bit now.....you know what happens when you think.... :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
yeah i get hungry and then everything falls apart!!
That's why I try not to learn things - twice. :goldtooth:
Ken, I wasn't going to say anything, but since you brought it up.
:knothead:
Glad you came around without eating your hand.
When making my arrows I always put a small line that give me the right brace ht.Never need a square or tape that way.I set my nock in the deepest part of grip then to the string.Some will put the arrow on the string and use a place on the riser.
Ken, you make me laugh dude! "Get hungry & everything falls apart!" That struck me funny. Never figured hungry to wreck my shooting but it just might?
That, Ken, is exactly why I try the variety of things that some folks think are "too technical".
Stick bows might be simple machines, but over the years, I've learned there are a myriad of critical, dramatic and dynamic "things" that can be done to stick bows and shafts to change...well...EVERYTHING! :knothead: :eek:
Compounds, we say. are more complicated! In effect, they're simpler in that you take an Allen Set and fix everything mechanically.
With sticks...you tinker and then learn more and tinker again!
Congrats on another "break thru" in the relentless "art" of bow shooting and tuning!
Like Rod Jenkins says in MBB3, your man up front aiming got to checkin on the man behind 'running the bow" (paraphrased) :biglaugh:
Kenny...I've been shooting every day past 2 weeks. First thing I check is my brace and make sure my nocking point hasn't moved. If that's good...we're ready.
Any problems I have hitting the target after that is totally me screwing up. The biggest mistake I find is when a shooter starts getting tired, they continue to shoot. This can lead to a few bad habits like dropping bow arm, plucking, hand moving away from the face or over drawing.
I limit myself now to 25 arrows per session both Right handed and Left. I shoot 2 sessions a day on my days off. Agree with BOHO...if it ain't broke.....
thats a really good idea polarbear
QuoteOriginally posted by Red Tailed Hawk:
Been their before!!! Actually so many times I can kinda make stupid look good ;)
Man tell me about it, been there to many times.
AMK,
I agree entirely, but I'm assuming by "a couple of" you actually meant more than two, as I don't see how that could have moved brace height by 1/2 inch. I have seen folks try to shorten strings that already had too much twist to the point the string starts "kinking" up and the brace height starts increasing exponentially, but I know you're too knowledgeable for that. I've become paranoid since I've started shooting skinny strings, which are made to an exact length. I think a lot of negative opinions of them have come folks ordering one too long and then twisting it up into a "spring", negating any benefit and weakening the string. I don't know of any maker who'd send one out if they thought the owner would try to significantly shorten the length, as the results would not be good. Conversely, I'll admit some of the miraculous speed numbers attributed to skinnies are probably negated by conventional strings made to the proper length to begin with. I shoot them because they're quieter on my stuff.
My Daddy always told me "You can make it fool proof but you can't make it damn fool proof and only a damn fool would be monkeying with what's working good". Seems it's taken me 67 yrs. and I still quite often ignore his wisdom!
Ken, nothing stupid about trying to improve your setup. The smart thing is the education you got, and being able to figure what went wrong and fix it.
You can save yourself a lot of aggravation by being able to quickly diagnose a problem. I know nothing sticks with me better than a self taught solution.
1/2" absolutely. A 1/16" makes a difference in flight on some of my setups they are so close to the line in spine. I check BH often.
When that happens to me I just figure I shot all the good shots out of it and it's time for a new/another bow.
It ain't stupid.....as long as you actually learn something from it!!!!
:banghead:
I still think the best way to learn something, I mean really learn it, is the hard way. If you screw up enough the pain will help you understand.
Good for you Brother , you won't forget that one :wavey: :thumbsup:
I crest wrap my arrows so that I can tell brace height at a glance.
But all that said...
I got a new bow last week and saturday and sunday finally got some time with it. Yesterday after noon after about the gazillioneth arrow, I started missing the entire block and the last thing that occurred to me was the most obvious... I'm so tired my muscles are jelly.
THAT is when I usually start messing with things and getting into trouble.
Ken -
Don't feel too bad. Usually when I do something stupid, I start leaking red body fluid all over everything. The first time I did this, my dad told me, "Danny, if you're gonna be stupid, ya' gotta be tough."
Guess I just got tough, 'cause I still do stupid things.