How do the new Grizzlies made by Bill at Zipper Bows mount up on a screw in adaptor for carbon arrows? I have heard that the old ones could be a bit of a pain and was wondering if these mount up better.
Bill had both at Kzoo(glue on and screw in).
Mike
The old type Grizzlies were a pain.The newer type are excellent with a much improved ferrule.Much easier to mount and get true on an adapter.
the new grizzlies mount up easy as pie
Is there a web site for the new Grizzlies or do you go through the Zipper site to get them?
QuoteOriginally posted by Interseptor:
Is there a web site for the new Grizzlies or do you go through the Zipper site to get them?
Looks like their new website is under construction, so I would suggest going through the Zipper website. Give Bill a call, I'm sure he'll get ya taken care of. Here's the website that's under construction...
http://grizzlybroadheads.com/
I will give credit where credit is due here. Although I do some work for VPA and absolutely LOVE my VPA heads, if I could no longer buy VPA's I would be using some of the new Grizzly heads. I looked at them while at K-Zoo and Bill has them really looking good. By all means, if that style of head is what you're after, don't hesitate to give them a try.
-Jameson (VPA Sales team...or at least until the boss sees this...LOL)
Another question here. I have only seen sharpening tutorials for grizzlies using a KME. Is it possible to just sharpen a single bevel by hand without a KME or some other kind of jig?
We are working on the site guys. Once it is up you will be able to paypal Bill and Tracy for the heads. I have the email address there and will add their phone # tonight.
http://grizzlybroadheads.com/
Great Tom! :thumbsup:
You can sharpen them with a file...PR
done yet TJ :dunno:
Just mounted my new ones today. Glued-up easy. The adapters fit great. They spun out true. Can't wait to have a go at the 160 grain Kodiaks!
Wow!!! I've been shooting Grizzlies since Jim Abel made them in the early 90's. I wasn't aware there was a problem mounting them, but I never used them on carbon.
So how do you know if you got the old or new??
The new ones have the Zipper Bows website on the label and the edge looks wider to me.
So are the Grizzly head and Kodiak different? Is the Kodiak the new one?
Kodiak is the new name for what used to be called the"El Grande",slightly wider and longer than the standard Grizzly.
I just got mine today...what if they come in plastic container with a foam pad and 6 broadheads and the label says
Grizzly Kodiak
200 GR RB
no website or other comments anywhere...
the ground edges have lots of spots whether paint or stains or something on them...hoping will come off with few strokes of sharpening stone on my Lansky...but I did expect them somewhat sharp out of the package based on comments on new grind and so forth. Definitely not sharp unless I am just not familiar with feel of single bevel vs double bevel. Would not slice paper when run down edge like my other heads.
going to work on one all night and see if it gets better.
Brock, they are not hunt ready out of the package. They simply have the bevel ground in them. You have to sharpen them, which shouldn't take you very long.
yeah started already....got one in my Lansky clamp...started about 20 strokes with extra course, then 20 with medium, and 20 with whetstone to finish...but still not sharp...
I noticed at the 25* position my sharpener is grounding the outside half of blade edge..so guessing there is slight discrepency between 25* on my Lansky and what was ground...so going to work it with course until I get a continuous grind on one edge...the work on other side. I have 3 months until deer season to get them right. :)
I got the new Grizzly 140's from Bill at KaZoo. I used my KME broadhead sharpener and had mine sharp in a lot less time then that! Like Bill said, you don't have to sharpen the entire bevel, just the edge. These sharpened SO much easier for me than the old stlye Grizzlys. Looking forward to getting my Kodiaks!
Maybe I will try the KME as my Lansky Extra Course 120 is grinding the edge but after 80 strokes still not close to sharp. I will either get it right or grind the whole damn thing down to ferrule trying. LMAO
QuoteOriginally posted by Brock:
yeah started already....got one in my Lansky clamp...started about 20 strokes with extra course, then 20 with medium, and 20 with whetstone to finish...but still not sharp...
I noticed at the 25* position my sharpener is grounding the outside half of blade edge..so guessing there is slight discrepency between 25* on my Lansky and what was ground...so going to work it with course until I get a continuous grind on one edge...the work on other side. I have 3 months until deer season to get them
right. :)
Brock,the beauty of the KME knife sharpener is that it is infinitely adjustible to match whatever the blade angle is.Blade angles change depending on how wide the blade is and how it is positioned in the clamp.
I used to sharpen Grizzlies on the KME knife sharpener but have switched to the KME broadhead sharpener.Both do an excellent job but I think I've worked out a system that makes it go faster,using the broadhead sharpener.
I expect to have some new 200 Kodiaks in my hand tomorrow and it sounds like they will be way easier to sharpen than what I have become accustomed to.
This is the "How To" I did on using the broadhead sharpener.http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000115You don't even have to have stones.You can use just wet or dry sand paper laid on a flat,hard surface like glass,plate steel or smooth,ceramic tile.
You are fighting a sharpener that is a slightly different in angle and you will kill yourself before you get enough metal off with stones.That is some hard steel.Good luck with them.
KM broadhead sharpener :thumbsup:
Brock, These heads have never been advertised as ready to hunt. The 25 degree bevel is established.IF you want them KME sharp that is an option.
The spots you are talking about is a combination of oil and likely some paint. These heads are sent to us from KME oiled so they dont rust. They come in loose in a box so there is bound to be some paint residue in the oil.
The reason there was no literature in the package is because the art work was not in from the printers when the heads arrived. Rather than drag this out another week for a piece of cardboard that will be thrown away. I thought it better to send the preorder heads with out the art work.
For the sharpening. I do not try to hone the length of the 25 degree angle. I only hone the cutting edge. No need to hone the full length of the angle. The 25 degree angle is there to make the head turn going through tissue but it is only the very edge that is important for the cutting.
Bill
p.s. The artwork is here now.
JimB can you re-do that link for your how-to. I'd like to check that out! Good idea Bill to send those out right away with the the extra packaging. Thanks for expediting the shipping. We(me) are an impatient bunch!
Thanks for that Bill.
Owlbait,sorry about that.
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000115
Ron and I are going to do some sharpening how to video's this weekend at the Baltimore Bowmen shoot.I will be leaving for Baltimore in the a.m.
Bill
Brock
1. take a black marker and color the silver grind completely.
2. adjust your sharpener so it just takes the color off the cutting edge not the entire grind surface you just made black with the marker.
old and new grizzly heads I mount to adapters with jb weld. No problems. I also ONLY sharpen them with a mill bastard file
Caleb, you won't need the file to sharpen the new ones. The angle is pre-ground at KME. They will just need a few strokes on the edge with a medium and fine stone of some sort.
Just got ont he new Grizzly Broadhead site.
What a winner, great site, :bigsmyl:
Seriously folks, with the KME and the fine new Grizzly Heads... What a combo...
:thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by KentuckyTJ:
Caleb, you won't need the file to sharpen the new ones. The angle is pre-ground at KME. They will just need a few strokes on the edge with a medium and fine stone of some sort.
thats awesome. I will be sitting down with 6 of them this afternoon. I did notice right out of the pack they have a foil edge on them. I have a soft stone I will try first and see how they do.
thanks!
Caleb
thanks all...yeah I was trying to sharpen with same 25* angle as blade and not got anywhere. I am going to raise my angle and see how that goes...to 30* and see what happens.
I have done nearly 100 strokes with each of my three stones and not working so yeah these are hard and no, sharpening the entire edge is not working. LOL
On to the next try...with higher angle and less blade being ground. If that fails....will be getting the KME Broadhead sharpener...just hope to not have to pay $70 to sharpen broadheads. Haha
Man, those are some wicked looking broadheads. Will the screw-in adapters fit on 5/16 carbon shafts? :rolleyes:
Yes, all the threads are the same on the adapters.