Trad Gang

Sounds like a plan !!! I will be looking forward to pics for posting.  :bigsmyl:

Congrats Pete! It's going to be really cool to see how similar these start off and where they go later on based on our different choices when we ordered!

Here is one picture I missed uploading last night, nice close up!
Thom
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QuoteOriginally posted by tradbower:
Sounds like a plan !!! I will be looking forward to pics for posting.   :bigsmyl:  

BTW is your TD going to be longbow or recurve limbs?
Thom

Its going to be a longbow.58"  43 to 44 at my draw length.

QuoteOriginally posted by tradbower:
Its going to be a longbow.58"  43 to 44 at my draw length.

60 lb at 28 in???   :laughing:  
God bless ya Pete, It will get there Bro and you are going to love it.

So we've all got longbows on order; two TDs, and a 1 piece in the works!

My order is in at 56@32 on a 60" 3 piece longbow. I release at 31.5" but I have this over-draw problem I'm trying to correct so I thought to be safe I'd order it a touch heavy and long.

It was really helpful to send Kirk a DVD of me shooting a few bows. We talked about my form and his designs on the phone and after weighing a bunch of options came up with this combo.
Thom

Dang Thom..that's a looong draw.
You must get some quick arrows no matter what you're shooting.

Mine is a 62"Sas LB one piece about 46# at 29.25" AMO draw.
Kirk is setting her up for a really high wrist shooting form I have.
This is my first quality custom bow.
I had ordered another bow a few years ago FROM A DIFFERENT BOWYER that was just a nightmare.

This is going sooo smoothly it's just awesome.

Well here's a little tease for you Thom....

I pulled out some of these zebra lams i've had stashed and ran them through the sander. This photo is just rough cut stuff, and still has a few saw marks. wait till you see this stuff under glass.   :eek:    :eek:    

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Wood%202012/Zebralams.jpg)

WOW! This is going to be an awesome looking bow!!! For those following, I asked for zebra under clear glass for the back and belly. Those are gonna look great with that riser!

Kirk, I hope you can snap a picture of the inner lams before you glue them up, it'll be my only chance to see them    :thumbsup:  
Thom

QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
Dang Thom..that's a looong draw.
You must get some quick arrows no matter what you're shooting.

That is true, but it's a double edged sword when it comes to finger pinch or just plain stopping before anchor. I've been shooting/hunting longer bows to get around this, mostly a 70"er but it's kinda tough to use that in a blind/ up a tree/ in the brush. Anyway, that situation is what led me to calling Kirk, and eventually to this thread!

I've always wanted to shoot my bows through a chronograph because I'm curious just how much of a performance gain it is. Last year I bought a long Howard Hill from a fellow TGer drawing 26" and it's a whole different animal when I shoot it! I ordered a chronograph this morning, I figured I better check it out now since I'm selling all my bows except this one. Yeah, I plan to be that "one bow" guy.

Those are some pretty limb lams...jeesh...lol
They're going to look GREAT with that riser!

I'd like to be a "one bow guy' too.

Hopefully this new sas will help me convert.

If  I had a 29.5 or 31.5 draw length they would be calling me Sasquatch and not the bow  :bigsmyl:

The proof is in the pudding Pete.
Nothing wrong with black glass.
..heck when I first ordered my bow I opted for brown glass...but the bug got a hold of me too deep and I went for veneers.

Good for you for being stronger than me..lol

To have a bow specifically made for your shorter draw will be such an improvement.

I used to shoot with a 26.5" amo draw.
I started using a shorter bow that stopped..not stacked but stopped at that shorter draw.

The improvement in speed was pretty amazing.

Woods/ veneers/ color of glass...man that's all superficial stuff.

The design and grip is where IT'S AT.

I've always been a fan of "sleepers".

Have a feeling yours might just fit that category perfectly.

Iam sure Kirk will meet everyones expectations.Iam really looking forward to seeing that Zerawood under clear glass. If you and Sticks get together and shoot thru the chrony let me know how it turns out. cant wait till the next set of pictures.  :bigsmyl:

That's pretty funny guys, my original order for the Yeti went in for black glass over bamboo. It was going to just be a "hunting bow" that I could drag through the bush and toss in the back of the truck... then I started seeing pictures of some of the veneers that Kirk was putting in his bows. Needless to say, you saw his last picture!

Pete, since you got the TD you always have the option of getting another set of limbs down the road!
Thom

Yes I have been throwing that around. Just have to talk the wife into another bow.  :)

I can see this thread is going to be kind of fun.    :thumbsup:    

We will have both ends of the Sasquatch spectrum with a long draw and short draw with the same length bow...... Wait.... i better check on that. I think Pete went with the 58"...

Yup, Pete's is a TD Sas Lb-58, And Thom has the TD Sas Lb-60. Right in the middle John has a 1Pc Sas-62" with a 29.25" draw

Hey Pete,  If it makes you feel any better the black glass is faster than the clear glass and the limb overlays will be done from this same batch of zebra veneers.  I'll get some more photos up this evening with your riser included Pete.


Wow!  i just looked outside and it's SNOWING!   :dunno:  

Kirk

:campfire:     :campfire:    :campfire:

Few logs for the fire Kirk..

:coffee:    :coffee:    :coffee:  
He will also need some of this.

lol

Hope the fire is roaring and the coffee is fresh over there!
Thom

Kirk I didnt realize black glass is faster than clear, but with my short draw I will take all the help I can get  :archer2:  With all the snow out that way he will need a few more logs and more coffee.  :D

Yeah Pete, I've heard people say putting black glass front and back, then stuffing the middle with bamboo lams is the highest performance combo you can get without using carbon. I don't know if it's true or not, but one of my bows is like this and it's a shooter! Maybe Kirk will chime in his two cents on this.
Thom

OK guys put your bibs on and cover your key boards so you don't slobber all over them....

First of all here is Pete's riser block.

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I know.... i know... she may look a little plain Jane in this form Pete.... BUT.... check out the end grain on this thing. This stuff is running off on a 45 degree angle.  

You might be saying, "So what???"... what this means is it's going to do some wild things when i shape you grip.... That's what.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0004.jpg)

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while we are on your stuff Pete here are some walnut lams I'm thinking of using between that black glass. this stuff is ultra light weight and will turn up the performance a bit from bamboo cores.

Of course it's your choice if you'd rather have bamboo...

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Your next John.... you got a big choice to make here. these are the bocote veneers i have on hand.
The strips are darker colored with a bit wilder grain pattern.... But.... the large veneer has a very nice figured ripple that will show up nicely under glass.....

Take your time.... you've got a few days to make up your mind here...   :biglaugh:   Good luck on this one...

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0010.jpg)

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that IS going to be a pretty riser Pete.
very cool to have the 45˚ cut

Dang Kirk....lol
That ripple will be a pretty one...but...well jeez....lol

QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
that IS going to be a pretty riser Pete.
very cool to have the 45˚ cut

Heck yeah! That riser with the black fang lines and black glass. Should be sweet!
Thom

Thom, your next...

Now this stuff may not excite a lot of folks. but to a bowyer, this is some to die for Yew wood for core stock. Pacific Yew wood cores have the closest flexibility and strength properties I've found to bamboo, only its lighter in mass weight.
it's tough to find it absolutely clear of small pin knots like this stuff.

The combination of Yew wood and Zebra is going to make a seriously smooth drawing, very quick set of limbs.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0015.jpg)

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(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Wood%202012/Zebralams.jpg)

Yew and longbows makes sense to me, doubly true when I'm ordering one from the Pacific Northwest!

It feels almost criminal to cover these up, I can't see anything but what looks like a couple little sharpie marks on these! I know I haven't looked at wood grains as much as many, but this looks fantastic compared to any yew I've seen before. I am in awe.

Thank you for telling me that you had this tucked away, and thank you for snapping a few pictures before it gets pressed between the veneers!
Thom

Poor John, that boy has some tough decisions to make!
Thom

Sticks you have it made , just sit back and wait for the finished product, John  and myself have to make some decisions. Should I go with Walnut or grass for the core and John has to pick a veneer.  :banghead:    :banghead:  I have to agree I think that block of Zebrawood is going to make a fantastic looking riser. John what ever veneer you choose its going to look good.
Kirk I will let you know my choice very soon still thinking.  :banghead:

These yew cores was my bow's little secret I hinted at on the first page. For months I couldn't wait to see them, and I still can't wait to shoot them!!! I wonder if Sixby is still watching this thread?

Those tough choices the two of you are working on will just add to the enjoyment of this thread for me, and anyone else following it! I look forward to seeing what you guys choose!
Thom

I think it is harder to order a bow then a truck.  This is a pretty cool thread.  Please keep it going with more pics along the way.

those strips of yew are some of the cleanest wood of any kind I've seen in a long time...excellent!

Jeez that is some seriously cool zebra veneers.

....I'm still thinking about my enviable decision to make.

IDK Mike, it only took me six months to figure out this bow. I have been driving this prius since '08 trying to figure out what my next truck will be... BTW thanks for not killing off all the pigs at Ray's place last weekend, I'm sure it took a huge amount of restraint to leave a few for me. I enjoyed the stories, and I look forward to the ones you haven't published yet!

John, you lucky dog, you'll probably get to shoot those yew limbs sometime soon! The great news about your veneers is that they all look good! It's just picking the ones YOU like and enjoying them in the years to come. Not a bad set in there from my perspective.

The looks of your limbs is one thing, but I'm wondering what Pete is going to decide between the boo and walnut. Seems like he's got the really tough choice ahead of him!

However it shakes out, we are three very lucky guys.
Thom

We are lucky..no doubt about it.

Never shot a yew cored bow..looking forward to it!

Never shot a walnut core either, but that's what's coming to my place.

Looking forward to you showing me how well my bow can shoot...just don't try that crazy 32" draw on it...lol   :eek:

made the decision...
That ripple is gonna haunt me a bit...I mean dang I just turned down curly bocote..  

But I really do have a thing for crazy grain.
Too much, too busy for some...but I like it.  

 (http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Sasquatch%20Build/SANY0010numbered.jpg)

That's right....   :scared:    :scared:

You still want those Purple heart wedges don't you John?


   

QuoteI wonder if Sixby is still watching this thread?  

i think Steve is using the same Yew wood that i am. then again... he may have gone though that batch.


Hey Thom... I can always put the Zebra in the core and have the yew under glass.

???!!!     :saywhat:

I'm just pulling your leg John....   :laughing:  

that's ok on that figured stuff. I've got a bocote riser in stock I'll use it on.

15 mins ago you told me to relax and enjoy the ride...

Now I'm getting purple accents!?

  :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:

Of course I am following this thread. Kirk is right. I have the same yew. I am building two bows with it right now. one a Talon recurve with paradox walnut and macassar and another belly mounted D and R with triple carbon and yew cores. That one is paradox walnut and yew. I seriously love yew accents in a riser.
You guys are getting some super nice bows here. I really love those bocate veneers you chose. Purple heart wedges are really cool.  :thumbsup:  Ha ha. I have used them with yew and sage and they do look good with those woods. yellow and purple are complimentary colors.
God bless you all, Steve

Aw Maaaan!  That was it!  It was Thom that wanted the purple wedges to go with the yew..... hee-hee   :jumper:

mmmmmm...paradox walnut...mmmmm

I just plain love neat wood grain.

Thanks Stephen..I hope I made the right choice...don't really think I could've gone wrong either way.

I can definitely see how yew and purple heart could look really nice together.

I've thought that tulip wood with a little purple heart accents could look really nice too.

We must have similar tastes John, because I would have picked the same ones. Not that you had any chance of going wrong with any of those. I haven't shot a walnut core bow myself, I don't recall ever noticing it as an option but I see it on he ordering form now that I'm looking at it.

For me, I'm perfectly happy with the zebra/bocote/blood wood combo. No need to go changing a great thing as I think the bow will look awesome this way. (BTW I thought my tips were going to be bocote over blood wood if I didn't do the antler tip upgrade. Maybe Kirk is pulling my leg now.)

I shared a hunting camp with Jay St Charles a while back and we got to talking yew, it was quite an education! Understanding how rare it is to find completely clear yew grain, you are two lucky fellas to have some of this on hand! Now that yew under some clear glass on a long Boot Hill with some purple heart.... Too bad I declared my "one bow" aspiration publicly    :knothead:  
Thom

Picking wood combinations  I think is probably harder than picking the right bow I keep changing my mind on want combination I want for my Sasquatch order in a couple of months. I know bacote will be one of them but I've choppeded & changed my mind on the other several times. Good thing is still have acouple of months.

If there is a single place on the planet where the ownership of multiple bows is accepted...no matter what declarations were made...it's here!

Now I know why I went with black glass!!!!   Less wood combos to pick.  :goldtooth:

:help:     :help:   lol

What wonderful problems to have! Speaking of, what do you think about your bamboo/walnut quandary Pete?

Lyonel, if you want to get Kirk going, you need to ask him if you can buy this one from him    
   (http://thomjorgensen.com/Sasquatch/Kirks.JPG)  

Sorry Kirk, I couldn't help myself.  :)  What combo is your bow, rosewood/walnut? I can't recall.
Thom

:thumbsup:     :thumbsup:

WEll Iam going to go with the walnut cores, I need  all the help I can get with this short draw .  :D

Cool Pete!

QuoteOriginally posted by tradbower:
WEll Iam going to go with the walnut cores, I need  all the help I can get with this short draw .   :D  

I'm really hoping we get to see some video of Kirk or you shooting this bow when it's done! I want to see how he does the limbs for your draw length on a bow designed for an already high brace height.
Thom

I have shot Kirk's bow, and it shoots every bit as good as it looks.

You guys on Kirk's build list are in for a real treat.

QuoteOriginally posted by sticksnstones:
 

QuoteOriginally posted by tradbower:
WEll Iam going to go with the walnut cores, I need  all the help I can get with this short draw .    :D  

I'm really hoping we get to see some video of Kirk or you shooting this bow when it's done! I want to see how he does the limbs for your draw length on a bow designed for an already high brace height.
Thom [/b]

Good choice Pete. Walnut is very strong and light.

Misconception on the brace heightin that Not all foreward riser bows have high brace. My Sasquatch from Kirk is right at 7 inches;

My own foreward riser bows all have brace heights from 6 1/2to 7 1/4 inches.

On top of that the Sasquatch is one of the quietest most stable bows I have ever shot. Kirk has a really great limb design with high early weight that stabilizes at a low brace. The string on my Sasquatch is 59 inches on a 62 in recurve bow.

God bless you all, Steve

Hey Pete,

Keep in mind i build these things "Draw length specific" .... That 58" of yours will brace as low as 6" and still have good preload. I'll bet the sweet spot runs 6.25" to 6.75" on that bow.

Another thing to remember is that this thing will stack like cord wood at 27-28" when i get done with it. So when someone asks to shoot your bow.... Just say "No"

Here's a Douglas fir/ wenge veneer under clear glass Thom... this stuff looks identical to Yew wood under glass once it darkens up.


The wood leaning up in my shop is my Yew stash your veneers came from.

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It's funny you mentioned trying to buy kirk's bow it was the on I modeled my footed riser on   (http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd377/0419falcon/Picture1.jpg)

Yes Kirk I know what you are talking about, we tossed around brace height when I was placing order.Even like  with Sixbys  Talon, being draw specific,  I have had to refuse some of my freinds shooting it, some are even bigger than Sasquatch. They have to go to the four corners to turn around,

Am I the only one who gets an excited/tingly feeling when seeing an email like this.....

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Sounds like we need to be preparing for a couple of bow showers.

Lot's of good stuff on this thread today! I'm inspired to go rasp on my nasty self bow for a while!
Thom

I know exactly what the woods are in Kirk's riser, cause mine is going to be it's sister..

Is it a secret Larry, or can you tell us?   :help:  
Thom

Well my camera battery died as i was working today so i don't have many photos. Thom .... your limbs are done. Whether i hit poundage or not, is another story.    :p    

Pete's goes into the form tomorrow and i got the one piece form out and polished up for Johns bow too.

here's a couple pics of your limbs before i started slinging the bow snot. i shot some video of the lay up that I'm editing this evening.


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Here ya go Larry... here's a shot of your riser block ....

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Wood/SANY0042-1.jpg)

Kirk, I love the footed riser. Killer bows getting ready to get hatched.
God bless you all, Steve

It's just like the days leading up to Christmas when I was a little boy! Sorry your batteries ran out, but it's great to see a few more of those limbs still disassembled! Sounds like it was the last chance to see that    :thumbsup:  

I think the six month wait makes this even more enjoyable to watch!
Thom

Very cool.

Thom, your bow is going to have such a nice look from the profile....any direction really..lol
But your limb core color is going to look sharp between the zebra.   :thumbsup:

Some pretty riser blocks there too!

Thanks John, she's already looking good! I bet that orange gets a few double takes over the years to come    :bigsmyl:  

Those are some sweet risers, I'm kinda glad I don't have to make that tough decision again anytime soon!
Thom

Here is the update from my little workbench across the country!

I got a dozen shafts and all my feathers in. I cut the first two shafts down 1/4" and 1/2", and pulled one shaft out of the bundle to keep full length. I fletched up these 3 and put on the 170 grain field tips so I'm ready to start tuning as soon as the bow arrives!

Looking at the zebra, I'm thinking a yellow and black string might be a nice combo. anyone else have a different combo in D97 that they think would look sharp? Maybe 3 ply orange/yellow/black... I do have red on hand and that might look nice too.

If I need to order a new color I want to get that in so I can twist up a pair of strings, leave the original as a template after it's shot in a little.

I'm torn between doing a yellow center serving and my normal black/white braided. Need to finalize my string colors before I worry about this too much.

I've got a hunting trip in a month so it will be tight, but I still hope I can hunt this bow!!!
Thom

I think I'm done with decisions too.
It's hard for me to hand over the reigns completely.
..I'm just not built that way I guess..lol

But I have FULL confidence in Kirk's eye for beauty and his craftsmanship....

x2 on Kirks eye

Thom,

Not sure if the yellow,sunset orange, or even the cedar would match better..I haven't seen any of them in person..or your core for that matter.

If I'd say white,black, and a couple strands of core matching color.

Too bad they don't make the "natural" color in d97..just the 452X. I think that would look a bit better than white.

Are you getting clear or the amber tint sealer?

...I went with the amber....not Purple tint Kirk..lol


If you went with amber I'd throw out the white and go with your black and whatever matches the core idea.

More importantly, I'm       :pray:          :pray:     for you to have picked the right spine shafts.

I have my feathers chopped and and my pattern dyed on them (red feathers / black pattern) and all the other stuff that goes with em.

I'm waiting to shoot my test arrows and then order the shafts.

I can understand with your time constraints why you're trying to stack the deck.

REALLY, REALLY REALLY hope it works out for you!

My bow will be under amber too, the examples Kirk sent me of the zebra under that were spectacular!!!

I've thought about trying Astro Flight, but, I can get 3 x 1/8# spools of D97 in different colors for the same price as one 1/4# spool of AF. I've seen a few bows that look good with white strings, maybe this will be one of them. I'll give this some thought and see if any other ideas pop up here over the next couple days. Luckily this stuff ships fast to where we live!

As for the arrows, I'm really comfortable with my guess for this bow. I run 2117s on all my bows between 51 and 60 at draw, and this one should be right in the middle. I've got almost 3 inches sticking out the front to trim on, and broadheads ranging from 100 to 250 grains. I can also work with the side plate and string setup if I need a little extra tuning. Besides, if I'm completely wrong I know the guys at the local shop really well and they would get me dialed in with a good combo and send me out the door with a dozen finished arrows the same day if I'm in a pinch.

Did somebody say "waiting is the hardest part"???
Thom

Cool man

I'm glad you're covered.

So looking forward to that amber over zebra.
..that bow is going to be stunning!

Ok i'm going to try this out here... my first you tube attempt.

http://youtu.be/tm01Z5ms-LU


As for your string Thom, that's an area i don't mess with, but the color i just happen to have for your bow is a Black & yellow 12 strand D97.

I've just recently ordered some SBD strings in a 10 strand & 8 strand, I'll be using in the future.

Link worked great Kirk.

You looked like you were dealing some kind of card trick there...lol

Thanks for the vid.
  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:

Card trick is right bro... you glue these things up out of order and it's a bad scene.


ok lets try this one...  Thom's limbs

 http://youtu.be/n0sWhuXS4tc

Neat to watch that Kirk.

Thank you!   :thumbsup:

Hi Kirk what are the black & white accents in the dark riser block?

Wow, how amazingly cool is that!!! With the way this thing is coming together it might be easier to be a one-bow guy afterall! It's amazing how whippy they look at this point for being potentially 55# limbs!

12 strand FF yellow/black sounds perfect! I don't shoot less than that because of the very thin gloves I shoot. I'll play with 12-16 on this bow when I get it to see where it likes to be the best. I will also pad the loops to compliment the grooves however you carve them.

A sincere thank you for shooting that video! That's about the coolest thing I've seen on tradgang, but I may be just a touch partial  :)

Kirk nice video but you must stop all bow production now and clean your shop, and also turn down that load rock and roll music so you can here your phone ring !!!!!!!. JUST JOKING WITH YA BRO KEEP UP THE HARD WORK SO THERE T/Gers will have there new toys to play with.    :bigsmyl:

QuoteOriginally posted by LYONEL:
Hi Kirk what are the black & white accents in the dark riser block?

That's a little mosaic strip i put in an Indian rose wood block... lets see... i think i got a better photo.


I'm amazed i haven't sold that riser block yet. i think its cool looking myself.


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Cool!!!  Great Videos.     Looks like are the bows are well under way

QuoteOriginally posted by tradbower:
Cool!!!  Great Videos.     Looks like are the bows are well under way

I know Pete, it's really exciting! I can't wait to see what yours comes out looking like! Sometimes "less is more" and your black accents and glass with that riser wood sounds like a good combo to me    :thumbsup:

Thanks , maybe Kirk can give a sneak preview.  
 I have a coulple bare shafts ready for testing when  the "Ugly Duckling" grows up.If all goes well I will be hunting with it right after Easter, going to see if I can make some bacon out in Oklahoma.

What do you guys normally shoot for arrows? Carbon, wood, ???

I shoot Tapered spruce.

Good luck makin bacon Pete!

Carbon they are either straight or broken

here ya go Pete. I've got the cards dealt and ready to go here....

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one more limb to pull out of the form and yours are done.

here's what Thom's came out looking like...

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This is so neat to be able to watch these come together!

It sure is can't wait till riser and limbs come together!!!  
Kirk how long ls the cooking time for the glue to cure?

We are a funny bunch, the three of us seem to have every extremity covered:
- Wood/aluminum/carbon arrows
- Short/medium/long draw
- One piece/take downs
- Short/medium/long lengths
Crazy that we all ordered the "same bow" to cover all our different needs!

Those longer wedges look SWEET! Black walnut? Glad to see you getting pics before the black glass goes on these!

As for me, looks like I'll need a recurve case with those crazy curves in my limbs!!

Tomorrow I'm on the road all day, gonna be tough not being able to check back here!
Thom

Well you've already seen the video slinging bow snot on Thom's limbs. So here's one putting your second limb in the form Pete.

you guys are NOT going to believe this, but i'm going to have to walk through SNOW to get back out to the shop tonight to pop this limb out of the form.   :eek:    :eek:    :eek:  

it rarely snows at all here in mid winter... but March 21st????     :dunno:  

here's another little piece of the puzzle...

http://youtu.be/Ar0BqyyqHOg

Ok John.... i know ya gotta be feeling left out here, so i got a few pics here for you now...   :p

Zoom in on your lams after i ran em through the sander...I got these down to 18 thousandths in thickness to eliminate the weight and keep your horse power right up there. The ultra light walnut core is going to turn up the heat a touch too.   :readit:  


Btw.... Pete, that black power lam in tour limbs is Wenge. It turns coal black when finished and will tie into your black accents....

"Ugly Duckling" my arse mate! This thing is going to rock!

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Tomorrow we'll see about stuffing all those parts & pieces in this form and see what happens.

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I couldn't help myself, I had to check in before taking off this morning and I'm glad I did. Another amazingly cool video and some great pics!
Thom

Kirk what is the mosaic strip made of?

Kirk what is the mosaic strip made of?

Hey Kirk I cant wait to see the end product,we all know how the "UD" story ends.
  :bigsmyl:  
right at the end of the vid my question was answered it cooks for 40 minutes the heat must reall kick up the curing time.
The colors and grain patterns on Johh and  Thoms bows  are going to be fantastic all those decisions will be worth it.

WOW!

The bloodwood power lam is a GREAT idea man!
...racing stripes!

It's amazing to me that you can get 4 strips of flat grain, relatively porous wood of that size down to .018"...I mean I just measured a small exacto blade..the same thickness..      :eek:          :eek:      

Cool idea with the hinge system...always be on the look out for a better way...looks like you found one!

     :notworthy:

QuoteOriginally posted by LYONEL:
Kirk what is the mosaic strip made of?

The mosaic materials on that block is a very dark black walnut and bamboo. i did another block using the same pattern using Wenge and bamboo and you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.


Two down, one lay up to go here. Then things really start getting interesting...

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This is pretty neat, to see your one bow being built.

Heck yeah it is!

You know what they say about guys with big hands... they need a big grip on their bow!    :laughing:  

That sharpie on the riser block looks like my big grip bigfoot! Watching the woods and grains has been very cool, but this is the moment where I finally can see the first hint at a bow inside that block!

Looking good on your block too Pete!!!
Thom

QuoteOriginally posted by ranger 3:
This is pretty neat, to see your one bow being built.

Is it ever! Not only can Kirk build a bow, and build it beautifully, but he can put up with us guys asking for pictures and offers up some videos to boot. That guy is a good dude    :thumbsup:

QuoteOriginally posted by sticksnstones:
 

QuoteOriginally posted by ranger 3:
This is pretty neat, to see your one bow being built.

Is it ever! Not only can Kirk build a bow, and build it beautifully, but he can put up with us guys asking for pictures and offers up some videos to boot. That guy is a good dude     :thumbsup:  [/b]

X..a lot

Thom..you were talking about us 3 covering a wide spectrum of choices.

I'm getting a very small, high wrist grip...lol

something for Kirk to deal with all the snow  :campfire:    :campfire:    :coffee:    :coffee:  
Kirk do you know this guy ?

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I also like a high wrist, but I've got big hands so I requested an extra big grip. Actually I've never held a bow that felt like the handle was big enough.

My favorite grip so far is my Quinn recurve. I bought one after reading a bunch of threads about people complaining about how they are "just too big and blocky"  :)

I did hand traces for Kirk and emailed a few measurements along with a DVD of me shooting some bows. I figured the more he knew the better my chances of getting something good for me!

I also asked for the grip to be as far up to the shelf as reasonable. I have one bow where the arrow almost touches my knuckle and I like it! We'll see where it all ends up!

Hopefully we'll get to see some pics of a one piece soon!

I have to agree the outline of the riser on the block of wood  gives a glimps of what is inside,the wait gets harder from here on in.

With that gray fur, and sun glasses he looks like quite a few guys i know....i need a hint please.


This was what i woke up to this am...

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Wow that's gorgeous, looks cold, but gorgeous!
Thom

Have to agree with Sticks. Is this where Gracie get to do her running?
The pic above is of a freind of mine, but when I first saw your pic Kirk I thought you and Martin could be related.  :)

Yup... She's got a full acre to run and she LOVES the snow! Our 5 mo. old  Springer named "Gracie" for you guys that haven't seen my shop helper.

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She was a bit younger in this photo. My official "Bow Inspector".

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no bow pics yet John... maybe later this eve....Kirk

Ah man, don't let her eat too much "bow snot" it might effect her growth!

I love the look of snow piled up on bare branches

....but there's a time for it and the end of March ain't it...lol

She's gettin big..

I am PUMPED........believe it or not I have a TD sasquatch ordered in zebrawood and black glass!! Just looking at those beautifully grained risers has me drooling. Great thread, and love the videos Kirk. PLEASE follow it up to the completed bows. Can't wait for mine!
 Also, didn't know about the walnut/bamboo comparision, interesting.

Well it's getting late here and I'm ready to hit the shower and dive into the sack....But first...

We have something resembling a bow here i thought I'd post.


First off we have the parts

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And here is the step by step going into the form.

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Now we are cooking!

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Notice those wedges there? That's my insurance i get good tight lamination's in the belly ramps without turning up the pressure to much


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Here ya go John, Yours is the first one that has got the right shape.

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Those green limbs are so cool!!!!!


God bless you all, Steve

Kirk thanks for all the pics its great seeing the pieces of wood coming together making bows.Keep the pics coming!!!!  :thumbsup:

QuoteOriginally posted by Sixby:
Those green limbs are so cool!!!!!

Yeah, looking at John's avatar I think the solid green was a good choice, but you probably should have told him before you painted over those veneers he was so fond of    :smileystooges:  

Congrats John. It's looking like a bow, and that zebra fang is a knock out!!!

Soon...
  :archer2:

The green was my little surprise.

I decided to go with Bolivian Chart wood.

Thanks for the pics Kirk!

These pics don't do your work justice.
They make it look too easy.
Just "poof" and a bow is glued up.

Doesn't give a clue into the hours of thought,designing and building the molds, the templates, R&D, sanding, and all the other stuff I don't know about..

Thank you for your skill and time bro..it's been great...and getting better all the time..

Thom..Just think man..you and Pete are getting darn near a whole riser made out of that wood...they're gonna be awesome!    :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:

Wait till i get the purple heart overlays on those green limbs. It should blend things in nicely.   :bigsmyl:

...now you're talkin!

...come on man...unwrap it..unwrap it...

What did you do with those veneers???!! lol

... speaking of kids at Christmas    :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:

I know right!   :bigsmyl:    :bigsmyl:

At least you and I have had some pretty good clues for what to expect. Pete's dark horse is the I'm kinda holding my breath to see. I think that zebra with all the dark woods, accents, and glass is gonna be cool!

Pete, what are you thinking for tip overlays?

Cool will just begin todescribe it!!!!!!   :bigsmyl:    :bigsmyl:

All tip overlays are subject to change without notice, and the design totally dependent on the bowyer's attitude at the time..... live with it.   :biglaugh:

Dang, and we got builds the week he's on this purple kick!    :scared:

:pray:  please no purple heart      :pray:  please no purple heart     :pray:  please no purple heart

Maybe Kirk will be in a macassar ebony mood when that time comes    :D

I trust Kirk, ifn he thinks purple on yours zrdix will look good Iam sure it will  :bigsmyl:

We talked about tips and Kirk threw out some combinations , they all sounded good, so I told him I would trust his judgement.

I'm right there with ya Pete.

They'll be nice...that's all I know for sure.

You guys keep talking that purple and green combination and you will have to fight Owlbait off with a stick!!!!!  :knothead:    :knothead:    :help:  

God bless you all, steve

I think Mike's bow is cool...

But I have a bit different plan this time around.

I find it amazing that something so ugly at one point can look so beautiful when finished.

These ugly ducklings grow up to be beautiful bows that shoots lights out and burn barns down . When you get these bows you will understand.

My daddy used to say that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. The proof of these bows in in your hand when you shoot the first arrow.

Now when brags like this are made they have to be backed up. Kirk is not making this brag but I guarantee you that he will back it up with the bows you get.

I expect to the phone to ring now about any time and I will get my spanking LOL.
God bless you, Steve

One of the coolest threads ever...

I know Iwill like my Big Foot I just nickednameed. Udto be funny I know I won't be dissapointed sure hope kirk did not take offense

I know Iwill like my Big Foot I just nickednameed. Udto be funny I know I won't be dissapointed sure hope kirk did not take offense

QuoteOriginally posted by wooddamon1:
One of the coolest threads ever...

I was kinda wondering if it was just because my bows is one of the ones being built, or if it's really this educational and entertaining.

I really think I'd be digging this thread even if I was just watching from the sidelines!

I caught this thread kinda late, wish I had found it earlier. One of THE best threads I've seen. How cool  is it to see your bow coming together? Thanks Kirk.

Wow this thread went dead for 7 hours! crazy! Does everyone shoot leagues on Friday night?

I've got some good news, I went from 3 bows to 2 today. A nice step off on my "one-bow guy" journey. I'll let go of one more in the near future, but I'm going to hold back one until I get this one in hand and tuned in!

I also organized all of my spare strings and arrows that are too short, looks like good give-aways and donation stuff!

Can't wait to see if anything gets posted from Oregon tonight!
Thom

I am with you Thom hoping to hear from Oregon. Congrats on the bow sale.
The big day is getting closer won't be to long and Kirk will be heading to the PO.

Well i don't have too much exciting stuff tonight. a little limb prep and getting them mounted on the risers here.

tomorrow I'll give you guys a sneek preview under the tape.    :thumbsup:    

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Here's a couple clips to tide you over.... sack time for da kid here...

 http://youtu.be/8qxCJOojBMk  

 http://youtu.be/giwGBX3UZ3Q

http://youtu.be/F85EEqtLaM4

any one else having trouble viewing the 2nd clip. cant get it to come up.  :dunno:  

Riser Layout

Nice thanks for the vids Kirk!

Pete, something on the radio threw a flag at Warner Brothers and they had youtube pull it. Crazy that a billion kids can upload Justin Bieber but they pulled Kirk's video for having cool classic rock playing in the background     :banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:

Can't get the 2nd vid to come up either.

The others worked fine.

Guess Kirk must've had some good tunes going...I mean really..Warner Chappell won't let a guy play the RADIO in the background of a of a bow building video....jeez

Thanks for the vids Kirk.
Nice limb jig you have there for the sander.
I wondered how that was done.
   :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:

You beat me to it by 1 min Thom...lol

Kirk I enjoyed the music on the first vid sort of sounds like my truck and garage.
The other videos are grrreat one really gets to see the work and TALLENT that is required in the construction of these Bigfoots. Thanks again for taking us on this trip.

Sorry bout that guys... i never thought of the radio in the back ground as a patent infringement.   :dunno:  

I'll mute the volume and re-post it.

Maybe you should dub over it with "lawyers guns and money"    :laughing:

I haven't figured out how to over write over the audio yet so i just muted it.

Basically what i'm doing here is laying out the riser and getting a true center line before milling the hardware. Getting the exact bisection of the pad angles make a huge difference in balancing the limbs out and eliminating hand shock.

try his link.

http://youtu.be/-frMNJ3vdnM


I need you guys with TD's to look at my new "Riser Design" page and tell me whether you want the "Radius back"  or the "Flair Back"  shape.

Std limb mount, or "Flush Mount" is another question... you got a couple days to make up your mind, but sooner is better..... Kirk

Just going for looks, Flair Back and Flush Mount seem like they'd make it the prettiest with everything else going on with this bow.

I gotta ask you though, what do you think? If you think I'll need any extra strength of a TD Radius Back and phelonic or something I would certainly want to know your opinion.

Thanks Kirk! BTW video works fine and it's nice to get a glimpse of my riser with the sharpie marks!
Thom

I agree with you Thom, Flair Back and Flush. Iam waiting to hear back from Kirk. I think thats what Iam going with, if Kirks agrees. Have to remember, he is the boss on this job.  :)

That is a nice look.   :thumbsup:

Well here's a few pics to tide you over. A  bit more progress was accomplished today....

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You guys may find this interesting.... This is a high tech way to get these bows straight lined. What I've got going is a laser here.....It's a wee bit more accurate than a string.


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Well i know you guys have been dying to see what the veneers look like under clear glass so here's a peek...

You are first Thom.... Here's your Zebra wood.

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You are next John.... Bocote coming at you...

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And this is Pete's sexy looking black limbs...

http://youtu.be/pAtCnRjCcQk

Wow !! Those all look so nice I could not pick a favorite out.  Congratulations on great choices guys.
Kirk, my son has been after me to use a laser. LOL
Looks like it works great.

God bless you all, Steve

Kirk      I think the flush mount limb BUTT on my bow is going to be AAAAWSOME!!!!    :bigsmyl:  
 When will all the tape come off?

See I am the opposite. I really like the radius back, it is just clean and love the forward handle look.

This last post was a lil late... it was supposed to be up there where they were talking about how the flare back looks best... lol.

When did Thom and John make it out to Oegon? I told them what would happen if they even looked at my bow.  :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:  Thanks Kirk for keeping the doors and windows shut.

Looks like both of you guys "got lucky" with what was under your tape     :laughing:    

As for me, I feel like I hit the lottery!!! Everyone has personal tastes, and this matches mine perfectly and is even better than I though it could look!

I changed my mind on the limb mounts. I'm going to go with standard afterall. I have some antler bolts and a limb mount Slim Jim Angle quiver. If I went flush or hidden I couldn't use it. I'm posting this publicly so everyone can see what Kirk puts up with.

Looks like you guys have your riser cuts set in stone, I better PM Kirk so I can get some sharpie marks on mind!
Thom

Whoops, finally my turn for a double post. Need to drink coffee before reading my morning threads    :coffee:

Ok guys if everyone has their coffee in them now, i'll post a couple photos of these things looking like bows.  I got a little further along yesterday than just mounting limbs.

Here you go Pete.  She's at your draw length in this photo on the tree with   rough limb profile  , I and hit poundage perfectly.    :thumbsup:

This bow is a 58" being drawn to 24.25" and i'm at about 50 pounds here.

Keep something in mind here guys. I'm just checking weight on these at this stage and the limbs have yet to be balanced out. so don't concern yourself with slight irregularity in the limb shape top and bottom here.  

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THERE IS A STRING ON THAT BOW AND IT'S ON THE TREE!!! HUGE MILESTONE!!!

Congrats on hitting Pete's weight!Great looking bow there... and as we learned, sexy too!
Thom

Ok John here you go. This one piece bow is a 62" model being drawn to 29.25". I'm setting right at 52 pounds here and she's pretty out out balance at the moment.  you'll note the lower limb is bending a wee bit more than the top limb on the right.

No worries.... i got the rough width a fuzz wider at the top in this photo. These are just rough profiled at this stage, but the poundage is perfect.   :thumbsup:  


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I'm rushing for a fresh cup for what may be coming next...    :coffee:    :coffee:    :coffee:

I saved the long draw photos for last here..... Our friend Thom has these arms long enough to scratch his ankles without bending over.   :eek:

Here she is.... 60" AMO length at a Full 32" draw, weighing in at 67 pounds. My target weights at rough profile are always 5 pounds over. This one i kept the limbs a bit wider on rough profile to make sure i hit weight ok. I don't build a lot of these for a 32" draw, so i was hedging my bets a bit. You can always narrow them down a bit, but you can't put it back on there if it comes in light.

as it turned out, the extra width was unnecessary. After i do some pruning we should hit our target weight at 56@32" just fine.

The tips are still running long, and the brace is low here. So it's kind of looking like a recurve at the moment.

Check out the string angle Thom. You've got another inch before this thing starts stacking.   :goldtooth:  

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QuoteOriginally posted by Sixby:
Wow !! Those all look so nice I could not pick a favorite out.  Congratulations on great choices guys.
Kirk, my son has been after me to use a laser. LOL
Looks like it works great.

God bless you all, Steve

Hey Steve,

I've had a couple different laser set ups for quite awhile now and it took awhile to get a set up that didn't give false readings. It's absolutely critical that your riser block is on the same plane as the laser beam. If the angle is off at all it will not give you a straight line through the recurve portion of the limb.

I've tried using the real expensive laser levels with a gyroscope that we used to use for setting flat work concrete forms and screed pins, and it was a lot more difficult to get your set up dialed in. It was faster just using a string line and your eyeball.

This is an inexpensive laser with a tripod leveling system. With my toggle vise here i can level up the riser and the laser in a few minutes time and it just takes all the fight right out of it bro. This set up is REALLY nice on radical recurve limbs.     :thumbsup:  

On my milder R/D long bows i still use a string to check things out more than i do the laser.

Thank you    :pray:  

That is truly a thing of beauty! I can't believe that string angle is at 32" on a 60" longbow! My fingers are going to thank you in the years to come!

I'll be honest, had those limbs come in at anything over #40 pound minimum hunting weight, I was going to offer to buy them as a second set because they are just that beautiful! I'm extra happy to know I can have one set of limbs to be both my range and hunting limbs! 56#@32 sounds like the perfect combo for this draw and those woods on that design. Thanks again for all the time you've taken with me to work this plan out ahead of time.

I can't stop staring at it Kirk, that is looking fantastic! I better add this reply and start cleaning the drool off my keyboard.
Thom

Great thread

!!! PETE !!!

You've been holdin out on us bro!

I've heard of bow porn..but a bow strip tease..    :eek:      :eek:  

Ugly duckling my back-side man..lol

I've seen fish skin backed bows..but never fish nets..

Your bow is looking extremely nice Thom.
The angle at the tips is pretty amazing considering bow length and draw.

...Pretty darn happy the way mine is looking too...

Sure am glad to hear everybody's bow is looking good for weight too.

yee haa!

am I the only one seeing this?...

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the sassy screamer..

QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
the sassy screamer..

That is creepy awesome!!!

So we've got the Edvard Munch bow, "Ms sexy limbs", and mine... I'm not feeling a name just yet... can't rush it...

..Ms sexy limbs...   :biglaugh:

...well...I guess I can no longer say I've never been turned on by a sasquatch...  

QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
...well...I guess I can no longer say I've never been turned on by a sasquatch...      

Um... It's OK John, I'm sure nobody is reading this thread...    :eek:

Only 203 posts!  :p

Well guys.... Your bowyer worked on his lawn mower instead of your bows today.   :scared:  

I hate it when that happens.

I did get some cleaning done out there in the shop this afternoon, so i'll be rolling up my sleeves in the morning and get back after it.

there won't be many good photo ops while i work on getting the limbs all balanced out and timed, but i'll get a couple film clips on shaping the risers for you and the overlay work.

Pete,   is this your hand?

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And this is your high wrist isn't it John?

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I got your video Thom so i got you covered.

Yeah Kirk.
That bottom one is mine.
I do loosely wrap my index finger and thumb around though.
My palm doesn't touch at all really.
Just the web between thumb and index.

Thanks!

The Top bow looks like an EagleWing Talon 11 Top Mount I built. Myrtle and walnut 12 in riser , 56 in carbon limbs with yew core. In fact , I know it is. That must be from Larry Marshall Kirk.

God bless you all, Steve

Sorry to hear you were working on the lawn and not out steelheading or something fun!

I was looking back and page 13 of this thread has to be my favorite page of any thread I think I've ever seen on TG! I'm sure those pics and videos will hold me over for a while!  Also for you other guys, there are a couple videos on the channel that didn't get posted here. You gotta watch Kirk moving fast with the super glue on the hardware installation for Pete's TD mounts!

My Howard Hill sold yesterday, when it ships I'll be officially longbow-less until the Sasquatch arrives. Holding back one recurve to help me transition, I'm not sure which one of the 12 steps this is    :dunno:   I think it the one right before you are temped to put a deposit on another bow...

You guys have a great one!
Thom

QuoteOriginally posted by Sixby:
The Top bow looks like an EagleWing Talon 11 Top Mount I built. Myrtle and walnut 12 in riser , 56 in carbon limbs with yew core. In fact , I know it is. That must be from Larry Marshall Kirk.

God bless you all, Steve

oooooops!   You are right Steve.   :o    :o    :banghead:   i better did a little deeper here.

Ok i think i got it going now....

This is Pete's grip....

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Grip%20Photos/PeteGeracegrip.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Grip%20Photos/petegracegri.jpg)

There we go and I think   :bigsmyl:  that it is also a Talon II in picture. I didnt know how to reply to first picture, I thought Kirk might have been trying me on a trick question  :bigsmyl:

That's it...I'm wearing an arm band with my name on both sides of my arm when I provide pics to Kirk!!    :knothead:

You guys have some incredible bows a comin! Gads!  :notworthy:

What are you getting Mr. Landis?

MR(?) Landis?

Geeze, John, I know I was outa school 9 yrs by the time you was born, but MR?!!!???  :)   :D    :p  
MR. Landis, is my dad, bless his heart,... while he still lives!  :rolleyes:  

SaS Longbow (we think) but aside from that, just still in the sweetheart stage of oogling all the choices while the months creep by!

Oh...and saving pennies and pick'n up up recyle to be turned in for cash!  :D

Doc like my Dad used to tell me "you get enough peanuts you can feed an elephant " I am sure  your wait for a Sas will be worth it.

Is everyone else just watching this thread like a dog that has to wait all day for the chance to bark at the postman?

Funny, I check for new posts every hour.......or less.  :jumper:

Is this going to work for you John?  i know you requested something cool on the tip overlays. These still need finish sanding. i just hit em with some sealer to turn on the lights for you.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0005-3.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0004-6.jpg)

I've got matching riser overlays with a touch of Zebra to tie it all in going right now...

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0009-2.jpg)

QuoteOriginally posted by iohkus:
Funny, I check for new posts every hour.......or less.   :jumper:  

Funny you should say this, I have been doing the same thing.

I've been pretending like I haven't been hitting F5 since I posted that. Don't bust me out.

Hey Kirk, where's John's purple heart???    :smileystooges:  
Thom

Malachi, Yeah I don't think we're the only ones either LOL. If I were one of the three guys getting one of these bows I'd be even worse.
  Those ARE some wild nocks on John's bow.   :clapper:

Hey John its looking good!!!!  the red and black on back of riser will look AWSOME.
 Looking forward to more pictures.

!!!!RIGHT ON KIRK!!!!

Those are sweet!
Would not have thought of that at all.

I LIKE IT!

See guys...sometimes it pays to let the artist do his own thing..sure paid out well here!

  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:

Thom...
Didn't he tell you..
He saved that purple heart for you man.
Going to really set off that yew core.

   :saywhat:

QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
!!!!RIGHT ON KIRK!!!!

Those are sweet!
Would not have thought of that at all.

I LIKE IT!

See guys...sometimes it pays to let the artist do his own thing..sure paid out well here!

   :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:  

Heck yeah! I've left a few things to Kirk, and I have yet to see how a few of them will turn out! I don't think yew/purple heart is a bad combo, it's just that my yew is buried. Whatever he says will go when it comes to that!

Anyone else really interested in what Pete's got brewing for his limb tips???
Thom

OH YEAH!! I want to see it ALL!!!  :jumper:

lol

Not what I meant, but that my friend is very funny!!!
Thom

Have to admit..

I've never been so anxious to see someone ELSE'S bow progress than I am to see Thom's and Pete's.

....Guess I'm not quite as self centered as I thought..lol

Now I am checking back every other minute.  LOL Really   :bigsmyl:   like the looks  of your bow John. When the riser comes to lifeits really going to look good. Be back in five

Now I am checking back every other minute.  LOL Really   :bigsmyl:    :biglaugh:    like the looks  of your bow John. When the riser comes to lifeits really going to look good. Be back in five

QuoteOriginally posted by Doc Nock:
MR(?) Landis?

Sorry Dave.
Wasn't trying to throw you there.

If I was in the "thinking about it" stage on one of these bows this thread would be so great.

Being able to see the options you're contemplating come to life.

Not to mention finding out what type of work Kirk will do on his own if you just give him some space to do it.

I sure am happy as heck with what he has decided on when I gave him no real direction to go in.

Seems like he always wants to add that little touch that takes things from custom to "TRUE CUSTOM".

...and that's worth noticing in my book.

Sorry about double. Post its these smart phones and dumb operators

Thanks Pete.

When are you going to let us see the rest of yours?

Funny last night I was showing my Wife some of these pics and she noticed I typed "Ms. Sexy Limbs" after Thom came up with it.

...."What's this Ms sexy limbs...go back go back..let me see what's going on here"...lol

She thought she caught me....lol

QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
 

QuoteOriginally posted by Doc Nock:
MR(?) Landis?

Sorry Dave.
Wasn't trying to throw you there.

If I was in the "thinking about it" stage on one of these bows this thread would be so great.

Being able to see the options you're contemplating come to life.

Not to mention finding out what type of work Kirk will do on his own if you just give him some space to do it.

I sure am happy as heck with what he has decided on when I gave him no real direction to go in.

Seems like he always wants to add that little touch that takes things from custom to "TRUE CUSTOM".

...and that's worth noticing in my book. [/b]

All true! I'm having fits finding a bow grip that truly fits my odd shaped paw! I had the same issue with big bore revolvers, back in the day, but that was the other hand and it was simple to get a big block inlet to the handgun and I'd whittle on it to fit.

Not the same with a bow!   :knothead:    :rolleyes:  

Kirk has impressed me with his "data driven" approach to seeing my way of holding and shooting a bow, in pics and vids, tracings, etc.

It'll likely not be the gorgeous looker like your risers, cause finances won't allow much splurging, but I'm confident it will be center stage in the SHOOTING department!  :thumbsup:

Nice one John! I'm almost sorry I let that post out into public domain then...  Oh, wait... No I'm not.

I would be sorry if it caused you any trouble with the mrs. That's no joke. I hope she can appreciate you knowing a guy who knows how to spell Edvard correctly in a pinch.    :cool:  

Looking forward to any other pics being posted from Oregon!
Thom

No man, There was no problem at all.
Actually it was a fun joking moment...after she figured out I wasn't being a bad boy...lol

The only "Bad Boys" are the ones Kirk is creating!!  :clapper:

Dave..

I hear your "no splurging" sentiment loud and clear.

This bow is a pretty major splurge for me..no doubt about it.

This is my first truly made to spec bow.
I'm not one of the 3+ new bows a year to try guys....though how cool it would be!

Like a lot of us here, I'm just looking for that ONE bow. I did a lot of looking around before deciding on a sas LB.

I came to the decision to sell a couple guns to be able to afford this bow done the way I really wanted it.

I have faith this bow can be the ONE.

I just didn't like the thought of always wishing I had done it differently...so I went for it.

Of course we all have our limits and this bow was above mine so I had to make some sacrifices and sell some other toys.

...but let's face it..that critter won't care what kind of veneers or color glass spits that arrow at em.

Nice! It will be interesting to see if Mr. Landis makes his choices now or when he get's the dreaded "glue will take 40 minutes to dry, so what do you want?" emails first      :bigsmyl:

HA!

Yeah, I noticed the " sooner is better " line back there..

Still curious how that was replied to.

Naw, I might give Kirk a little guff but he's been amazingly patient with me over the last several months.

The results are beginning to show themselves in my riser and limbs! Very much looking forward to whatever is next!!!
Thom

No more pics tonight fellas...My camera battery went dead on me at quitting time this eve. sorry bout that.  Tomorrow i'll "Get a grip".... and shoot some video

well actually..... "grips" would be more accurate.

Hang on to yer lug nuts boys. There are going to be arrows launching by noon.    :thumbsup:  

"Houston control, We have a count down of T-minus
14:08 till launch, all systems are go...."

:jumper:     :jumper:    :jumper:    :jumper:    :jumper:    :jumper:    :jumper:    :jumper:

Kirk I hope you were talking Central Standard Time   :bigsmyl:

QuoteOriginally posted by Kirkll:
There are going to be arrows launching by noon.     :thumbsup:  

AWESOME!!! I bet everyone wishes they were your bow testing assistant today!
Thom

Kirk Sounds like all the  bows are just about finished molting , and have their new look. I feel like a kid at the candy store again. Looking forward to launch time Huston

QuoteOriginally posted by Kirkll:

Hang on to yer lug nuts boys. There are going to be arrows launching by noon.

uh oh...my studious mind just got sideswiped...so much for THAT homework assignment.

I know, I'm completely ruined for work today myself!

Kirk is in a class by himself.

He has a relentless drive to do what's best as a bowyer and to educate and elevate the customer to a happy place, that is self evident!

I keep finding things to sell, too, John, but with my work having vaporized, I have to hold onto some items for survival sale.

I keep telling myself what few other bows I have will go on the block once this one makes love to my hand... but yeah...there will be some tough months of hard choices ahead on things above basic design issues!

What a delightful delemma!

If all systems are go  45 minutes to launch and lunch at headquaters in Mulino.   :thumbsup:

I'm sorry to hear of your work problem Dave.

I wish you very good luck in finding some more.

This is a thread about great bows built by Kirk for 3 grown up "kids" waiting for Christmas...in March/April!   :)  

No discussion of worldy nuances. Pardon the distraction otherwise...

T-minus and counting, boys!

There could be a guy shooting a bow in Oregon about now....
  :archer2:

Maybe Kirk cant catch up with Ms Sexy Limbs!!!!  :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:

I can't lie, I'm kinda hoping we get another peak    :saywhat:

ugh...I was gone for an hour and still nothing?

The man could very well be waiting for a gap in the clouds guys.

It has been pretty wet over that way all day.

I don't think he has the bows sealed just yet.

Not yet... Still waiting to see if we get a teaser before tonight.

Well we got T-minus 00:18 and the video hasn't been
produced yet... i hope you guys were not expecting to watch the launch live were you?

All systems are still a go on stage one and we have removed the staging on the first rocket launcher....

T-00:12:59...58...57...56...

here's a peek  to tide you over....

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0005-4.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0008-4.jpg)

HOLY COW!!!! Just look at that thing!!!

   :notworthy:  

I also like that zebra splash up the front of the riser. Classy.

Kirk, I've been trying to publish a youtube video for about 3 hours now. Stuck on processing...
Thom

Now thats what Iam talking about AWWWSOME!!!
  Fantastic job Kirk   :thumbsup:

My dear dad can't see very well anymore, but if he could see that grain swirl, as a past cabinet maker who taught me to love grain in wood, he'd just break down and weep!

That is excruciatingly beautiful! Even without the inset half moon.. that is totally STUNNING!

The bit of color just brings it 'alive!'

Infreakincredible!

Of all nights... I gotta leave for several hours. Will look forward to catching up on this thread later!

oh wow! That is stunning...
 :notworthy:    :notworthy:    :notworthy:    :notworthy:

That is some wild stuff now.

God bless you all, Steve

:help:       :help:        :dunno:

Can't rush art, John!

From what we see above...it'll well be worth the wait...

Make it, shoot it, tweak it, re-test it, photo it, upload it and then post it!

I'm tired just typin that!  :)

Ooohhh,...I'm not rushing the man Dave...lol

That one is MINE!.....if Kirk lets me adopt it..lol

I just didn't know what to say...still kinda speechless...

I know we all have different tastes...but that riser turns out to be THE best looking bocote riser I've ever seen....and my name is on it..    :bigsmyl:    

It has sharply contrasting grain AND its WILD.

I don't often see that.

This is just unfreaking believable!

..I feel like I won the lottery!

You out did yourself with this one Kirk!

My sincere thanks go out to you Sir!


Right now I do feel a bit sorry for Pete and Thom though..

Stay strong guys! It is going to happen!

Looks like a good bowfishing bow! I would have him build a fancy one next go round. :D    :notworthy:

Well guys.... long day..... I'm still down loading the Launch clip, but here' a few more pictures of some purdy wood to tide you over.

Here's Pete's riser with the nice slender grip he ordered.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0008-5.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0009-3.jpg)


(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0016-2.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0019-2.jpg)

You're a lucky man Pete!!!

I can't believe this keeps gettin' better...

Beautiful work on those bows!    :clapper:    :archer2:

Ok here's Thom's large economy sized grip.   She's 5.5" in circumference in the deepest part of the grip with a medium/ high wrist angle. The ol' boy has got some mitts on him!

Thom... i studied your video and watched your thumb location closely. you've got a good 45 degree wrist rotation.  if this thing don't fit you to a Tee I'll eat my hat with no salt.

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0029-1.jpg)

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0025-1.jpg)

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0014-1.jpg)

 Now this was a cool photo....  


 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0027.jpg)


 Of course we have to have a couple Sister photos.


   (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0021-2.jpg)

 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0026.jpg)


 (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0020-1.jpg)

I like em real thick and juicy! A guy built like me needs a Bigfoot bow!

OMG Kirk, it looks PERFECT! The woods, the grains, the shape. Dear God I hope it can shoot arrows too
   :bigsmyl:  
Thom

Beautiful bows there guys!! I am impressed.

QuoteOriginally posted by wooddamon1:
I can't believe this keeps gettin' better...

Beautiful work on those bows!     :clapper:      :archer2:  

Just keeps getting better in deed!!!

I might have to cover my arrows in calf hair, cause I don't want to cover any of that up with a shelf or side plate!

I love the color of the yew on the side profile.

John, you're 100% right. Kirk did catch some amazing bocote swirls in that fang!!!

I'd buy a lottery ticket, but I've already hit the jackpot!
Thom

Holy Cow! What's the draw-weight on that Thom?

     "U musta bea biga guy"   :scared:

Last I heard it was 67# at 32" on a 60" bow! Kirk was going to trim it down to around 56@32.

I'm 6'4", 210 lean pounds, I can't find sleeves long enough, or gloves or hats that will fit. My biggest reason for ordering a custom bow was to find a grip big enough to wrap my hands around.

I don't want another longbow that feels like a martini glass!
Thom

BTW John, we've come a long way with Kirk on this thread!!!!
  (http://thomjorgensen.com/Sasquatch/Build0000001.jpg)

!!! WOW !!!
That is one PRETTY bow Thom!

I really like the looks of the yew.

Nice choice!

Remember this....

 (http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Sasquatch%20Build/SANY0002tg.jpg)

HA!

You beat me to it!
  :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:

We sure have...
I believe there's still some more excitement we'll be able to see before we get to touch em...

QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
HA!

You beat me to it!
   :biglaugh:      :biglaugh:  

That's funny!!!

I always run a leather grip, and some sort of shelf and side plate. Have you figured out anything for this??? I just can't get myself to consider covering up any of that magic.

Maybe I need a second bow...

Naw, just messing with TG on that one  :)
Thom

I normally use a bare wood grip.
I've used a little felt on the grip a couple times but have always ended up removing it.

I have always used a bear brand carpet type rest with some felt up the window.
Just to keep that dreaded "tonk" noise away when "the magic minute" finally comes.

I did get a martin carpet rest for this bow.
Seems very similar except it's black.

The bear hair is tan..not sure what will look better.

Sure am thinking about the minimalist approach...


.....at this moment I'm thinking I'll need to bring a blanket with me into the woods to lay my bow on when I take my nap....

I don't think I even have a nice enough wall in my house to hang mine on.

...but I have been playing around tonight with homemade and store bought stains trying to figure out what my arrows are going to look like.

I was thinking brown beaver tail for everything, now I'm thinking i should leave the grip alone and just start with calf hair for both.

For arrows, I've got a pig hunt coming up quick, I'm gonna run some aluminums for that one.

I'm thinking I might try black walnut footed douglas fir shafts after that. It's a pain that I can't get any wood shaft long enough or me without footing 6-8" of hardwood on the end.
Thom

That extra 1.5" you need is a bummer.

Never heard of a big and tall shop for shafts.

Doesn't help keep the price down either..  

Footed shafts are very cool though!

Right, but as long as you are footing you may as well put a bunch on the end and make spining arrows easier on yourself! I suspect this bow will be too much for my garden stake/bamboo arrows  :)

I've got a few contacts I'll be reaching out too after my pig hunt!
Thom

What? You guys don't want the Sasquatch fur i was going to put on the shelf?   :dunno:  

you guys really know how to spoils a surprise.   :p

Well, as long as it isn't my fur... It's good with me    :thumbsup:

Ok.... I got the film uploaded here. You'll notice that she's looking more like a recurve at this low brace height. i got her set at 7". i can't believe i didn't twist her up a bit before shooting this film clip.      

That explains the buzz i was feeling. at 7.5" she smoothed out nicely.

We have lift off!


http://youtu.be/XKRPPu8S7iw

btw.... she definitely hits where you look John.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0002-8.jpg)

i apologize for getting your poundage off so far. a guy just does the best he can. That reading was at  29.25" draw.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/SANY0005-5.jpg)

Well worth staying up with the bar crowd to see this posted at 2am local!

I hope John can settle into you missing his requested poundage by that fraction!    :laughing:

so now I'm the bar crowd eh?....   :saywhat: .lol

7.5 sounds perfect..just far enough to clear the winter layers.

That is just plain uncanny on the draw weight.

Most guys are lucky to get in the +-4#.

Thank you so very much once again Sir Kirk!

oh...I replied to the pm Kirk.
I think you achieved perfection on that other issue too.   :notworthy:    :notworthy:    :notworthy:    :notworthy:

Wow! !!   Went to watch some TV and fell asleep looks like I missed everything
   Kirk fantasticjob on bows can't wait to see it in person.YOU were right on the grain pattern in my riser.What did you use for tip overlays on my bow?
Thom and John you have a set of sisters anyone would be proud to. OWN.Just great looking bows. I know you're

like me Cant wait to shoot em. More in morning still half asleep

Man fellas, we are some lucky sons of guns! I should be out the door right now, but rereading pages 18-20 seems much more important to me today!

I can't wait to see who gets the purple heart tips    :biglaugh:
Thom

Pete,

Not to sound prophetic but your comment about "sisters" and "owning" caught my brain.

Here all this time, I thought the best a man could do with one, let alone "sisters" was to rent or borrow them...we never "own!"   :laughing:  

This has been incredible! Going to really put the pressure on me the next few months to start saving a few more shekels and start chewing on some decisions...  :)  

Amazing to watch these 3 bows emerge from imagination to reality!

Such beauty and then precsion to boot out of wood and glue and glass! Totally freakin amazing!

just looking some more...

Pete,
The way your riser has that "burly" look at the front of the grip and flying V going up the back right side of the grip is just sweet!

Thom,
That is one BIG grip man...lol
In that front on pic your upper limb resembles a flame to my eye...and that fang grain...WOW!

Sasquatch fur for rest  :cool:    The people from "Looking for Bigfoot" will be wanting to take a look at this shelf covering  :bigsmyl:

"Hunting Bigfoot" will mean something completely different for me than it does for that crowd! Speaking of, a few weeks out from some pig chasin! You too right Pete?

I'm really excited to have a bow with a nice sized grip!!! When Kirk and I were talking shooting form and grip preferences we had a lot in common. I figured if he just scaled up what he liked it should be close!
Thom

Those are some nice looking bows and it's cool watching them come to life  :thumbsup:

2 more masterpieces by Kirk.....you boys are going to be very happy.

Oh yes Oklahoma bound. Called out of town today but. Talked with Kirk can't wait to Sergio overlays and butt overlays

Thom, if you use the leather on your grips for non-slip, you could go with stippling. Wouldn't cover up that beautiful wood grain.  :D

Actually I was thinking about just that today. I was leaning more towards checkering with a design inside of it.

My brain is thinking it might be a good thing to think about for a while first. My pocket book agrees  :)

Thom,

I got me a dull awl and a decent hammer and for a buck-$3.98, I'd fix ya up w/ a stipple dimple finish just lickity split!

I'd like to try that big ole grip my own self!

these so called Smart Phones  somehow  it turned see into Sergio I made that post from the "Smart Phone"
Waiting to see what the tips and flush limb bolt mounts will look like, Iam leaving that up to Kirks immagination, iam sure  they will be awsome.
I have to agree with you John there is some very nice grain in that riser.
Go for it Thom stippling would look fantastic and not cover anything up.

Just got a very good phone call from Mulino Oregon, I'm VERY excited to shoot this bow when it arrives!!!

Pete, looking forward to seeing the next pics of your bow    :goldtooth:

Thanks for the offer Dave! Hopefully we have a chance to get together sometime and you can check out that grip.

For the checkering I was kinda thinking something more    LIKE THIS (http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=115072;p=1#000007)  with the bocote being left smooth and as design being worked into the zebra portion... If I only had something as easy as "The Scream" or Ms Sexy Legs" I'd know what to checker in like that elk antler.  :)

So my call from Kirk was really awesome. Going all the way back to October last year, I originally I'd asked for a Yeti at 65# @ 31.5". Kirk and I talked about my form, his bow design, etc and he thought 55# would be the sweet spot. I put 65# out of my mind and accepted that instead of a bow 5# heavier, I was going to get a bow 5# lighter and trust by the nature of it's design it would make that back up.  

Remember when Kirk said my limbs weighed in at 67# when it first went up on the tree? Well after some balancing and tillering, and a little bit of smoothing it looks like I'm still going to be much closer to my original request than what it says on my current order sheet! Calculating for the 60" Sasquatch and materials used 65# was quite possible after all.

I don't know if anyone else will be able to wrap their hands around this bow or pull it back to anchor, but it's turning into exactly the bow I imagined!

Thanks Kirk, our phone call made my day!
Thom

:thumbsup:    :thumbsup:

Think I could find someone to checker a missile launcher into the grip???    :biglaugh:

QuoteOriginally posted by iohkus:
Thom, if you use the leather on your grips for non-slip, you could go with stippling. Wouldn't cover up that beautiful wood grain.   :D  

I think you guys are going to find that if you have a grip shaped to fit your hand, you don't need to grip it at all... you should be able to shoot with an open hand, and even grease up the grip and still stay right into the groove.   :readit:

We had another launch today but i have no videop for you.  here ya go Pete.... check out these black limbs now..... ugly duckling me arse!    :p

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Here some color for you Thom....

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I snapped a bunch more photos i posted on the bucket here... have at it guys..

http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Triple%20build%20along/?start=all

Beautiful Bow!

Nice! Here is the one of Pete's bow I was looking forward too seeing:
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Great size and shape on those tips, and that ebony is a very nice touch! Looks like she's almost done, and she's looking good! Hope you can bring home some bacon with it!

Just to amuse the folks watching, here is what I've been thinking about strings as I've been watching this come together.
- was thinking 8190, but I think I'm going to stay D97 for a while.
- was thinking 10 strands, now with the extra poundage I'm thinking 12 to be safe.
- black/yellow seems like a good combo.
- padding loops with red to matchup with the bloodwood accents.
- I think one red strand per bundle would be a nice splash.
Still don't know about center serving. I was thinking red or yellow #4 but both might be too bright. I'll decide when my first string is on the bow, guessing it will be black/white braided helo.

After my last post I dug to the back of the arrow stash and found a dozen 2317s that were way too stiff for a previous bow. Most of the shafts don't even have inserts in them yet. If dropping tip weight won't get me there on the 2117s I've got a backup plan ready to go!
Thom

Thom what ever you decide it will look good on your bow. Iam going to go with a 10 strand d97 brown and black .030 halo padded to 14.
 Kirk was saying if all goes well he should have the bows shipped in a couple of days.
 Thanks for the comment on tips, I like the ebony touch also, looking forward to seeing what Kirk has in store for the flush mount limb bolts.
That will really dress up the Ugly Duckling   :D  
or as Kirk would say "ugly duckling me arse"

QuoteOriginally posted by sticksnstones:
Thanks for the offer Dave! Hopefully we have a chance to get together sometime and you can check out that grip.
Thom

:biglaugh:  Ahhh, yes...another job offer down the tubes!   :jumper:  

If Kirk says you can grease it in Sasquatch snot and it will stay put, I believe him and that is why I'm investing in one of his bows at a time when I might have to sell a few other toys to "git er done", but I want a truly custom bow that fits my hand!

Those are some spectacular bows guys!

I'm liking the tips Pete!
What are your cores Pete?..they look cool.

What are your tips Thom?
I love the way the grain just waves its way down one limb, through the riser, and right down the other limb.
Almost gives the illusion of a "snakey" self bow.
     :thumbsup:

Walnut

COOL!
Mine too.

Here's a couple more film clips to keep you entertained today on shaping the riser grips why i get the last of the overlays done.

We are coming down the home stretch now.


 http://youtu.be/yYnzKF5fS7k  


Shelf cut out....

 http://youtu.be/KB216c3peeo  


Shelf cut out Shaping

http://youtu.be/1BC3mbtuEDE


I've got one more clip i'm uploading right now I'll add.

Awesome videos Kirk.

Thank you!

Amazing what you do with a couple ol' wood blocks and some sand paper!

Kirk..

Thank you for posting the finished pics first...
That would've been scary stuff no matter how much faith I have...    :eek:      :eek:

Power rotary tools next to fiber glassed limbs...

Please don't grab. Please don't grab....lol

"I am going to go with a 10 strand d97 brown and black .030 halo padded to 14."

Yeah Pete, I've been running exactly that combo on two of my bows and I REALLY like it!!!

Now I gotta watch some videos!
Thom

I don't know if I wanted to see that or not
  :scared:    :scared:    :scared:    :scared:    :scared:

Yea of little faith !!!  
   :biglaugh:

This has been one of my favorite threads of all time!!! Great looking Bows, congrats to everyone!!

TB,

I'm glad you also got that...I about spit on my computer... that man just ain't quit right!   :saywhat:

QuoteOriginally posted by tradbower:
Yea of little faith !!!  
    :biglaugh:  

:jumper:

I know what your are talking about  Doc. Kirks dad is a   wise man.   :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:

Never been able to do that...guess I need a shorter saw...   :banghead:

There's at least one last surprise to go folks...

we had a little riser remodel going on this am here..... i guys Johnny had flair back riser envy going on....

Nooooooo.... i didn't use the hand saw...

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My Lord I love that pic!

Thanks Kirk.   :notworthy:    :notworthy:

...couldn't be the odd man out ....

I like it ,very nice, eye candy!!!!

Man that is GREAT!!!

I love those little red/black tips, and the mini zebra overlay. That looks awesome!

I have never seen anything quite like it, has anyone??? Looks like something completely original to me.

Hey John, I've got no idea what my tip overlays will be. When the heavier limbs were a go, I decided I wanted something performance oriented out on the tips. It's up to Kirk at this point, I suspect some sort of phelonic and maybe some sort of accent.

He'll probably post the pictures here so we'll all find out at the same time  :)
Thom

Thom  Iam waiting to see what Kirk comes up with for the flush bolt mounts on my limbs. I am sure it will be good on both counts.
Pete

Now that is an interesting situation. Basically all black/zebra, and touch of ebony... What does the guy do there? It'll be interesting to see what he comes up with whatever it is!
Thom

Just so Kirk didn't make that red with his wife's lipstick, cause it's gonna rub off on yer hand then, John... and depending where ya put yer hand next...if'n yer married, ya might be in deep doo depending on where the "transfer" lands!  :eek:    :rolleyes:  

Oh...this is going to soo hurt when it comes time to make choices... was shooting for a purely FUNCTIONAL bow... good thing at my age that in a few weeks, I forget most stuff!  

Yeah Doc, I ordered black glass over bamboo originally... You can see how that turned out for me    :thumbsup:  

A long wait time to think about it ain't gonna do you any favors for the "purely functional" plan, neither is watching this thread too close!

In all seriousness, I think this thread is great not just for showing off a few bows, but also for understanding the options on Kirk's bows and just what goes into building a bow in general. I think there is a good reason there is more than just three of us following it!

I look forward to seeing what you come up with!
Thom

Thom,

Some time back, Kirk posted up pics of his varied riser designs...after he and I initially talked. OMG! I saved them all in a special folder.

Many, many bowyers will work with their customers to give them the best visual and heart throb bow they want.  

What I find talking with Kirk is that he's always testing his beliefs, filming, evaluating and pushing the envelope to find out what REALLY works well and what is pure speculation.

I like that.  My goal is to get a riser that when I pick it up, fits my goofy paw in ONE way...the RIGHT way... and forces me to exert pressures as they're supposed to be.

The bows I've had and "tried" allow so much variance shot-to-shot, I suck!

I so envy these guys who pick up any bow, high, medium, low or broomhandle and shoot it wonderfully. I ain't them!

I mentioned my Dad's influence... being he was a cabinet maker, he taught me to love wood's natural grain beauty! Swirl, figure, etc. make me swoon!

But... form follows function and funds drive choices. I will err in building versatility into my bow and fit, before all the beauty.

I can always swoon over OTHERS' bows like you guys!  :)

It'll be a 'while' before I have to make all the choices... folks interested in all fine work better plunk down cash... once the word gets out about not only the beauty of these puppies, but the enhanced performance and the true "CUSTOM" -fit and finish--thru the ability to make it be what the customer WANTs, not simply an ala carte cosmetic choice "custom" ---the "wait" will GO UP!

Congrats to all 3 of you for some pretty bows.

I want to see more of that "sexy legs". I think if it looks too good, that would distract me in the woods!  :)

QuoteMy goal is to get a riser that when I pick it up, fits my goofy paw in ONE way...the RIGHT way... and forces me to exert pressures as they're supposed to be.  

I've got if figured out Doc... I'm going to wrap portions of your grip with barbed wire...   :eek:    :eek:    :eek:    :p

I'm going back out and take a couple overlay pics here before the rocks start flying...   :biglaugh:

All right count down has started!!!