German Kinetics is making broadheads, I did not know that until recently. I am thinking of picking some up and perhaps becoming a dealer. What are your thoughts.
Thanks,
Scott
That is my favorite broadhead..the original ones made by Markus in Germany. I would buy them.
Give us some more info on them, I don't know anything about them.
They are way too expensive for me,but they look like great heads.
Here is a link to the web page
http://www.german-kinetics.com/
From what I can tell Markus is still with the company but its under new ownership and Markus is on the board.
Price would be around $80 for a 3 pack.
I've heard of them and heard it's awsome steel, but they look to short and wide and are way out of my price range.
Ed and Garrett Schleif of Alaska Bowhunting can give you the full and twisted story on them.
They are a great broadhead, but in my opinion, way too expensive ($80 for a 3 pack).
In a heavy arrow setup out of my 42# bow, anything a SilverFlame broadhead can do, my STOS broadhead can do and I pay $26 for a 6 pack although STOS have been tough to find lately.
Too expensive...that is over 26 bucks each.
I agree with most here. Cool looking head, but for any game I'm hunting I don't see why a much cheaper head wouldn't suffice.
Dan
I had 3 given to me a few years back as a gift. The sharpest things I had ever seen. You could hardly touch them without a cut. They held an edge like nothing I had ever seen. Shoot them into a brick and they were still sharp- just amazing. Amazing to see what a sharp head like that did on deer. Again- never seen anything like it. I learned there was sharp, and then there was downright scary sharp!
With all that said- I bought a KME after that, wanting to learn how to get things that sharp. KME is as good as I have ever had- BUT I just never could get the Kinetics back to where they were when new.
Not in my league, but there were a few sponsors on TG that had them. Guys sure seemed to buy them.
a bit too spendy.
Scott, I think you and I talked about this a couple of weeks ago. I can buy 6 Ace SuperExpress broadheads from Mike Horton at $23. They are easy to sharpen,stay sharp, and really put the hurt on a deer. With that kind of performance at that price, I don't see how I could be compelled to shell out $80 for only 3 broadheads, regardless of how good they are.
BTW-I'm still waiting for Gavin's measurements so I can get started on her moccasins.
Stick
great head.
Or at least the ones I have that were made in Germany are.
I raed somewhere the ones from China are not as well made but can't say for sure.
As a former Trad Shop owner...my customers always favored the Zwickey, Magnus, Snuffer heads....and the price range.
Not too many fellas out there with deep pockets that are willing to spend $80 for 3 heads when they can buy a 6 pack of good quality heads for roughly $26.
You probably will sell a few but be prepared to keep wiping the dust off the packages....JMO.
Super heads (at least the German ones were), Pricey? Yes, but no different than dropping $1000 plus on a new custom bow when an old garage sale bow could get the job done. Or buy hundreds of dollars worth of Sitka or Kuiu gear when some plaid wool will do (Ask Ryan Rothaar) Or.... you get the idea.
There was a time I would have, but not anymore. VPA' s and Simmons for me now. I did try the ABS ones and was not as impressed as I thought I would be, but they weren't German made either.
I got the XL samples from ABS in their "Garage Sale" and they hold an edge better than any broadhead I have shot (still sharp after targets, dirt, and a wounded coyote). The XL with 1.5" blades seem like a good deer head, but I didn't want to pay $100 (on the XLs) plus shipping for 3, and plan on using VPAs again this year.
To answer your post, based on their following, as a US dealer of German Silver Flames you would get some orders, but can't say if it would be worth your while.
Been killing critters a long time with Bear Razorheads and Ace Standards. Have know need for an $80.00 per three broadhead. All depends on what your hunting, I suppose. If big boned, tough hided, African game is your thing, or money is know object, give'um a fling. Pay attention to what Joe Skipp says above, he has been there and done that. Good luck.
QuoteOriginally posted by Burnsie:
Super heads (at least the German ones were), Pricey? Yes, but no different than dropping $1000 plus on a new custom bow when an old garage sale bow could get the job done. Or buy hundreds of dollars worth of Sitka or Kuiu gear when some plaid wool will do (Ask Ryan Rothaar) Or.... you get the idea.
Yep, what he said. :campfire:
Ditto what Joe and Bill said... By the way Awesome job on the wraps I got from you about two weeks ago(let Mindy know also) Thanks....DB
They are a bit out of my price range as well. That said I paid $70 for my last 6 broadheads (Woodsman Elite 175 grain), but I don't see any reason to change to anything else after shooting them either. They are scary sharp, hold an edge well, and penetrate like no other. I am sure the German Kinetics are a great head, but for me I have found my proverbial one.
I have Abowyer Brown Bears and they are as expensive as I go. They are great heads and tough. They should outlast any other head I have.
Good luck with this venture, but in a economy like this where people are really watching their finances, it may be hard to get enough demand to justify the investment you may have to put into it.
Also I don't think I would pay German manufacturing prices for Chinese products.
Markus' heads have had my interest.....and my money....for quite some time.
Markus is still involved with them in a consultant position, he sold the company to a good friend of his (Ingo) in German. These are exactly like markus use to make a few years ago.
Too expensive for whitetails. Probably worth their price though. Just don't see a great market for them in US.
I had a friend that used them in africa (up to cape buffalo) and they performed flawlessly.
I think there is a place for such heads. Sure others will do the job. But some guys like to have the best of everything and have confidence in that. Not saying you can't accomplish that with super hilbre's, but there is something to be said for the engineering and quality of those heads. I for one would try them.
I bought 3, 125's and 3, 150's when ABS was selling them for half-price. They are terrific looking broadheads. I have not used them though. I'm enjoying a single bevel called the Helix for now.
6.5x284 I agree with you I am one of the guys who wants what I think is the best. I am sure these are among the best 2 blade's made out there. I am a 3 blade fan and feel that the VPA terminator/Woodsman Elite is the best 3 blade out there today. That said just because something cost more doesn't mean it truly is better than another.
So the rumor that they are/were built in China is not true?? German made by Ingo instead of Markus??
I always thought ABS had bought the rights and production moved to China?
to pricey for me,loose a couple and my wife would kill me! :knothead:
Nice steel but there are many others things to use the money on.
Good looking.
Definitely have the COOL FACTOR.
but WAAAY too pricey for me.
To many other, more than good enough heads at a fraction of the price.
My thoughts are in this economy I would carry the less expensive heads.
I spent 20 years in Germany and love German craftsmanship and quality control. Having said that, I think an arrow head is designed to cut one time; on the way in, on the way out the other side and everything it runs into in between. I can re-sharpen the head after it's done the job. These are made of 440B stainless steel which is being marketed as a "super steel". That's one of the more common stainless steels used in medium quality knife blades.
Nice blades to be sure, but I think I'll save a bit of money and stay with my Zwickey's and Woodsman Elites.
As Bladepeek said the 440b is questionable and aluminum in a broadhead eventually bends.
They definately have the looks and maybe the precision but the materials are less than optimum for longevity IMO.
We have many excellent broadheads when combined with a steel bha that will serve us well when we need screw in heads.
Thanks or the input. I don't think I will be bringing them in.