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Title: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: Alfie on March 10, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
Got some Easton 2117 Legacys that I've fletched and are ment for my 50# longbow and recurve. Draw about 29" and use 125gr points and what I now read is that the shafts probably are to stiff?
Can I still use 2117 if I put some more weight in the tip and keep the shafts at 30" or even longer?

// Alfie who makes arrows while waiting
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: ronp on March 10, 2012, 02:40:00 PM
Give them a try.  Have you tried bareshaft testing?  My 44# BW PTF bareshafts 2117s very well, and they should be way too stiff.
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: Jake Diebolt on March 10, 2012, 02:47:00 PM
I'm shooting a 2117 GameGetter 31.5 inches - 50# recurve - and I've recently went from 125 to 175 to tune them up. Now they fly much better, much more forgiving.

I would bareshaft tune them with tip weight. So much depends on your release, your bow's riser cut, etc.
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: smokin joe on March 10, 2012, 03:52:00 PM
Keep experimenting, Each bow has its likes and dislikes.

I have a 50# at 29" recurve with a 6-strand SBD string that is shooting 29.5" 2117 with a 125 gr. head on a glue-on-glue-in insert. The bow seems to like that set up. I have found that fast-flight skinny strings do require a bit stiffer arrow than, say, a 14 strand string.

Every bow has its quirks. I am also shooting a 51# at 29"recurve that wants a 400 size carbon at 29.5" with 160 gr up front. That bow does not shoot the 2117 shafts well at all -- and it is only 1 pound draw different from the other recurve.

Keep experimenting, the bow will let you know what it likes.
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: Archie on March 10, 2012, 07:17:00 PM
I shoot 2117s from a BW longbow, I draw 31", the bow is 48# @ 31".  While I started out with charts and the Stu calculator, my bareshafting took me to where I shoot full-length shafts and 175 grain heads.  They fly like darts, with field points and 2 and 3 blade broadheads.
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: JamesKerr on March 10, 2012, 09:09:00 PM
I think you might be able to get the 2117 to work with a heavier field tip and long arrows.. When I shot alluminums out of my 55# longbow it took a 2018 with 150 grain points to dial it in.
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: Alfie on March 11, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
Just had to try, added a washer behind a steel blunt and got a 150gr head, uncut arrows and shoot from my longbow from 10m into the snow, they fly true and straight that I saw any way!
3 arrows into 70mm! Almost robinhooded !
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: Wudstix on March 16, 2012, 07:24:00 PM
Keep experimenting, that is part of the fun.  2117 are a pretty versitial spine.  I have a 63# at 27 1/2" MOAB LB that likes 28.5" 2117 with a 160 gr. head on a glue-on-glue-in insert. This is with a FF string.  Also, I can shoot these from my Big River 66# recurve. Dacron string. From the first bow 2020 fly better and 2215 works.  From the second 2215 or 2315 fly a bit better.  But 2117 work out of either bow.  Fiddle, play and adjust until you find that perfect arrow, if that exists.    :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: JimB on March 16, 2012, 08:53:00 PM
You can get them to work,depending on length and point weight.If you have a 30" arrow,I would want to start by trying 175,200,225 point weights.
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: mike g on March 17, 2012, 10:59:00 AM
My bow is 49# @ 29"
I use Legacy 2018 cut to 29" with 125 up front
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: boog21 on March 17, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
I shoot 30" 2117s with 200 grains up front from my 60# bow (29+" draw).  Should be way under spined, but they fly great.
Title: Re: Legacy 2117 to stiff?
Post by: Swamp Yankee on March 19, 2012, 08:10:00 PM
Order a set of test points from 3Rivers and find out what shoots best for you.  2117's, for whatever reason, seem to be a very forgiving shaft that will shoot well under a wide range of variables.