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Title: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on March 08, 2012, 06:41:00 PM
Looking to buy an angled strap on quiver for a Centaur and have narrow my choices down to these two quivers, but wants some feedback.

I did do searches on both and both had good reviews and I realize it will come down to what "I" want in the end, but here what I need to know:

1. For those who have tried both and you prefer to not shoot with a quiver on, as in tree stands, how is the removal and reinstallation? Does one stand out?

2.  While mounted on the bow how is the balance and weight?

3.  Anything that stood out good or bad that you could live with or without?

Thanks
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: DWT on March 08, 2012, 06:58:00 PM
get the eagles flight with totem and dont look back.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on March 08, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
Why?  Give me reason, does it angle back in?
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: broketooth on March 08, 2012, 07:36:00 PM
ive had the kanati pro, and i currently have a kanati slim jim. neither one are angled. with the pro you can mount it in such a way that it is angled, not near as much as the angled quiver. if you shoot 3 blade broadheads, of course a foam hooded quiver would be right up your alley. kanati quivers or eagles flight is your choice. both sponsors produce a quality product, and care about customer satisfaction. that being said if you are a 2 blade broadhead shooter, john dill offers something that no other bow quiver manufacturer offers, the slim jim. it hold 3  broadheads  and a rider arrow of your choice.it sits flat on your lap. it doesnt weigh any more than a foam hood quiver, and just looks slick on a bowi beleive he offers all his quivers in several variations and all are rock solid construction. check out the aneewakee archery website, or give john a call, you wont be disappointed. rv
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: John Dill on March 08, 2012, 07:38:00 PM
John

Why not go with the "original" Angle set back quiver? The Kanati Angle Pro.  7.8 ounces of english bridle grade leather on a totally adjustable 6061 aluminum frame. Quick on quick off mounting. 4 or 5 arrow option. Heres a sweet pic for you donated by Matt L.

 (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/johndill/kanatianglepro2012.jpg)
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: John Dill on March 08, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
Set back design allows this quiver to be adjusted for "angle" offset also. Kanati Pro strap on here in osage.  Not sure on the other quivers on the market but nothing I've seen compares to the "Angle" adjustable qualities of these model Kanati Quivers. Just a few ideas for you.


 (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/johndill/Picture6558.jpg)
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Manitoba Stickflinger on March 08, 2012, 07:53:00 PM
Can't comment on the EFA but I have 3 Kanati's. They all angle, are very adjustable, and don't move....EVER! Really, they stay exactly where you place them and don't travel up the limbs like other brands I've used.....Ryan

Oh yeah...on and off in seconds!
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on March 08, 2012, 07:54:00 PM
John,

Thanks for the photo's and info, I missed you at the Spring Fling my plans changed at the last week and I wasn't able to go.  I was hoping to try out your's and Eagle Flights product but alas it didn't happen.  What the ship time on yours to Mississippi?

Do the thump knobs get loose during shooting?
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: John Dill on March 08, 2012, 08:39:00 PM
John

Wish we could have met too! We can ship asap on certain colors.No thumb knobs on these models. Nothing to loose.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Bowhunter4life on March 08, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
PM Sent John...

I've been looking really hard at the Kanati Pro Angle for my 56" Thunderchild myself... I think it would be the perfect quiver for that bow.  The layed back limbs almost require an angled quiver for the arrows to lay back into...
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on March 08, 2012, 10:15:00 PM
On your website it show thumb knob?  Has the designed change?  Have any close ups of the strap system?  Thanks
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Lamey on March 08, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
To me they are 2 very different quivers,  yes the hoods look similar but if you look at the method of attachment, construction etc...  they are very different.

IF i want an Ultralight quiver, and wanted to keep everything to a bare minimum... I would go with an EFA.

IF I want a extremely rugged,  "bullet" proof construction, extreme attention to detail and wasnt concerned as much with weight etc... Kanati, hands down.

Here are a couple pics showing the method of attachment a bit more on the Kanati,  and a close up of the hood.  John since supplied some neoprene and silicone "pads" that fit over the strap post (not seen in the pics, and not sure you could see them in a pic anyway)-

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/6881360557_310285d398_z.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7062/6881494591_d96f6c3bc1_z.jpg) (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7178/6881499299_b2e449118e_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: NBK on March 08, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
Only have the kanati, and my bows shoot better with it on.  Never moves and makes the bow quieter.  Getting 4 of the big 160 Snuffers into the hood is a little tricky, but not enough of an issue to make my eyes wander to another quiver.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on March 08, 2012, 10:56:00 PM
Matt,  Love your pic's do you have any close up of the Eagle Flight?
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Gen273 on March 08, 2012, 11:09:00 PM
The Pro Angle Kanati with the new attachment system is the the best on the Bow quiver that I have ever used.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: ckanous on March 09, 2012, 06:01:00 AM
John's attachment will be a little bit easier than the EFA but the size and weight is what sells me on the EFA's. I prefer the small hoods Don sells but have a medium on my HOOTS. Keeping the quiver close to the bow and using the smaller hoods really keeps the balance in control for me.
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc244/ckanous/F4271988-orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: ishoot4thrills on March 09, 2012, 06:21:00 AM
There's two ways you can mount the Kanati Pro model:

(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/Kanati20Pics20002.jpg)

(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/KanatiBow047.jpg)

I prefer the top picture setup.

I love Kanati quivers!
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Bishop on March 09, 2012, 07:35:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by ckanous:
John's attachment will be a little bit easier than the EFA but the size and weight is what sells me on the EFA's. I prefer the small hoods Don sells but have a medium on my HOOTS. Keeping the quiver close to the bow and using the smaller hoods really keeps the balance in control for me.
 (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc244/ckanous/F4271988-orig.jpg)
Nice quiver but is the "Totem" adjustable for different length risers? Just curious as to how it sets up versus the Kanati Angle.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Bud B. on March 09, 2012, 07:37:00 AM
I own both.

For two blade quick and QUIET on/off go with Kanati slim jim. Three blade go as shown in John's first post. His mount system is quick and quiet.

For lighter weight, as said, go Eagle's Flight. Don's quivers mount with a velcro strap. Noisy if you want to remove it while hunting. It stays put when mounted.

I have had a problem with my Navajo allowing arrows to fall out when shooting several sessions. In the bow pictured I can shoot with arrows mounted in the quiver but if I shoot five or six times using other arrows while the quiver is full then the arrows start to fall out. Unsusal yes. But when hunting you'll only have the one shot at game most of the time. I think it is from my bow limb's shock and vibration as to why the arrows fall out. It is not a big concern of mine.

 (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/Equismith/Navajo%20Quiver%20by%20EFA/Arrows020.jpg)

I use mostly a back quiver now. When I get to my stand and get settled I slip it off and hang it on a hook or close by limb.

I like both my Kanati and my Eagle's Flight. The Navajo is featherweight. Both are quality quivers. Both are well worth the money spent.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: DWT on March 09, 2012, 07:50:00 AM
Ive had both types of quivers and prefer the EFA to the kanati. The EFA is lighter and the strap sytem seems better made. One Kanati quiver I had stained the limb on a 1100.00 bow. For some reason the type of rubber used for the strap system left a very noticable shadow  when the quiver was removed that would not come out no matter what. The quiver was on the bow for about 6wks and when I took it off the juniper limbs I discovered the stain. Now before someone jumps in I did call Kanati and asked if they had ever had it happen before and it was stated they hadnt and that was about the end of it. I do not believe there was any foreign matter on the quiver or the bow but was just a reaction, since then I sold the Fatal Styk with the quiver shadows and and use the Eagles Flight. The Eagles flight locks up great and does not effect arrow flight whatsoever. Ask Bob Morrison which one he prefers.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on March 09, 2012, 08:55:00 AM
I shoot mostly Woodsman 3 blades will 4 of them fix in either of the quivers 4 arrow hoods? Will it be crowded?
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Bishop on March 09, 2012, 09:00:00 AM
No problem with Woodsmans in the 4 arrow on either. I have both.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: RM81 on March 09, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
Here's the best pic I have of the EFA.  Pretty lightweight and out of the way which was my biggest concern.  I haven't tried the Kanati, so I can't comment on it.  Just thought the photo might be useful in your decision.

(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd444/mbhensley/Archery%20Stuff/Thunderstick%20Bows/MOAB_57/41c86800.jpg)
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: 2fletch on March 09, 2012, 09:03:00 AM
It's interesting to read the different opinions. The differences that I see and hear about our (EFA) quiver versus others is that our "EFA" quivers are lighter weight and fit solid to the bow. Also, they don't alter how your bow shoots in a negative way, and in some cases will make the bow quieter.

Our goal early on in our beginning was to make a lightweight quiver that had no noticable effect on how the bow felt in hand or how it shot. There seemed to be nothing on the market like that. We were able to make that product as represented by our 3 and 4 arrow quivers. Since then we have made several improvements and added to our product line.

Some of the things we have added in addition to the "talon" limb wrap system is the limb bolt and side mount systems. New products also included the "totem" system which connects the hood and arrow gripper assemblies in a innovative design, and the "wing" which is a rock solid setback feature.

We will soon be coming out with more new products that we're working on. With ideas from many of you we continue to develop new products and improve old ones.

I'm having a problem with downloading photos right now but if you will look at a thread running on this site about a "EFA Photo Contest", you can see some of the "EFA" products. I believe there's one near the beginning showing a "Shrew" bow with an EFA quiver.  

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n64/2fletch/Leespics038.jpg)
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on March 09, 2012, 09:26:00 AM
Don,

How much does the 4 arrow quiver weigh? And with the totem and wing setback?
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: R. W. Mackey on March 09, 2012, 09:36:00 AM
I picked up one of the Kanati Angle Pro quivers at Tanneyhill, I haven't bought a bow quiver in a long time and was amazed at how they have improved over the years. I can only speak for the Kanati but the materials used are first class, design is very well thought out, everything you need and nothing you dont. I really liked how the quiver fastened to the bow, easy on and off and absolutely no noise. I didn't catch the names of the guys in the booth as there were lots of people around, but both were very nice and took the time to answer my questions. I,m sure both quivers are very nice, but you sure can't go wrong with a Kanati. I've been shooting bows for a very long time and this is the best made quiver I have ever seen. RW
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: scbowhnter on March 09, 2012, 09:52:00 AM
For what it's worth I have two EFA velcro strap ons and one Kanati Pro.

I just ordered the Kanati for an upcoming elk hunt and to possibly use during turkey season. I wanted it to shoot like a more permanently mounted quiver but to offer quick release without the noise of velcro. And I wanted it to do that without having two separate pieces. I've only had it for a day or two but it mounted up easy and shoots very solid...and quiet. It does weight a little more than a two piece EFA, but not enough on my stalker 3 piece to matter to me. As others have said it is very well built. And John has been great at answering emails or phone calls. I never had cause to contact EFA although I'm willing to bet they would be just as responsive.

I have never used the EFA with the totem so I cannot comment on it. The regular EFA worked great although I did have my arrows come loose after a shooting session. However, it was not enough to cause me concern for my typical treestand hunting around home where the bow generally hangs until I need it.

Also the angled mount of the Kanati allows me to carry my bow by the handle (string down) without my hand hitting the arrows. Personal tick but I really like that.

On final comment on the Kanati...after I shot it some yesterday I apparently didn't hang it correctly on my bow hook (I know, not paying attention) and my bow feel off the hook and landed in a metal trash can like a rim shot basketball. The quiver and the arrows never moved...and that includes the side kick clips with a judo. Unintentional test but it was nice to see it passed perfectly.

Although the finish on my stalker now has some character marks.

As I owned the EFAs already, a big reason I tried the Kanati was just to try something different. I'm very pleased with it so far.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: John Dill on March 09, 2012, 09:57:00 AM
Matt L.

Great pics. I might have to borrow those also. I have not had much time to snap pics since the new model quivers have come out.

Keep a watch on our web site folks....new toys soon.

Thanks for the nice thoughts everyone.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: bow_man_66 on March 09, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
I have a Kanati Angle on my Centaur and would not change for anything. Solid, quiet, perfect angle to the arrows, easy on and off, I don not know how you could improve on that design. Just my opinion but I believe best on the market.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Mike Harris on March 09, 2012, 11:35:00 AM
I have several Kanati Kwivers on a few bows. I believe that you would be pleased with any of their models. If you want the option of removing the kwiver while hunting you'll like the ease of the new mounting system it is very user friendly, rock solid and quiet (both off and on). A nice bow like your Centaur deserves a nice kwiver on it give the Kanati a try I know you'll be happy you did.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Shakes.602 on March 09, 2012, 12:29:00 PM
At the time, the Eagles Flight was what I Needed and could Afford! my Next Bow Quiver will be a Kanati!!
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Bishop on March 09, 2012, 01:44:00 PM
The start of a project with a Kanati.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c291/marcbishop/DSCF5271.jpg)

I worked out a trade with Snag and he will be building me a set of green arrows for it. Green Razorheads will be mounted on them. The green Kodiak Hunter was my dream bow when I was a kid.

I ordered a custom fit Kanati Angle Pro for a Kodiak TD from John this morning. I'll get better pics of both up in the future.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: LCH on March 09, 2012, 06:44:00 PM
I have the Eagle Flight quivers, they are light durable and quiet. Don is great to work with. John makes a good quiver also and is good to work with. Pick the one you like they both will work great.LCH
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Rick Richard on March 09, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
I have both and you cant go wrong with either.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: Arrowang on March 09, 2012, 07:42:00 PM
I have had at least four of Joh'ns quivers and my latest the Slim Jim Sidemount addresses the ability to remove from the bow and stay together really well.It also rides really well and stows in any arrow box or bow bag sleeve,also really good in the pickup ,straight onto the widow and balances right.
John is a class act and always true to his word and his products are tops.
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: KHALVERSON on March 09, 2012, 07:45:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bishop:
The start of a project with a Kanati.
 (http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c291/marcbishop/DSCF5271.jpg)

I worked out a trade with Snag and he will be building me a set of green arrows for it. Green Razorheads will be mounted on them. The green Kodiak Hunter was my dream bow when I was a kid.

I ordered a custom fit Kanati Angle Pro for a Kodiak TD from John this morning. I'll get better pics of both up in the future.
now thats a sharp lookin set up
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: John Dill on April 30, 2012, 06:24:00 PM
Up for Daniel Boone
Title: Re: Need opinion on Kanati and Eagle Flight Quivers
Post by: hart2hart on April 30, 2012, 09:48:00 PM
Both are well made..
Go with a one piece arrangement on either..
The totem is adjustable,and I easily converted my Kanati to a one piece the same way.
EFA is lighter if that's a concern.
If Kanati has upgraded straps from rubber that's a good thing.
Easy on/easy off..I still like my German Ridge!!
Mike