I was doin' some searching and found that Bearpaw in Germany is offering a lifetime warranty on their bows...who else does that?? I s there any North American bowyer that offers that?? Holy moly!! :clapper:
Might be a few that offer that. Make sure you buy from a established bowyer. Probably one that offers no less than 2 yrs.
Tomahawk bows have a limited lifetime warranty. After so many years you pay a fee depending on how old your bow is and they send you a brand new one, if yours is not reparrable.
Limited lifetime warranty means you still pay something...it is a play on words...it should be a limited warranty only then...smoke and mirrors!!
When it comes to any warranty, you always have to read the......very small and even smaller fine print. :D
I just read that Cascade has a lifetime warranty on the night hawk riser, and that new longbow from Alaskan Bowhunting supply I believe has a lifetime warranty as well
Warranties are a marketing gimmick, IMO anyway. I'd rather know who I'm dealing with than rely on a piece of paper. I don't even know if my bows have warranties.
Kegan McCabe, Omega Longbows, offers a lifetime warranty, no fee, no gimmicks. Hes an up an coming young bowyer, 100% American out of PA. Stand up fella, my Longbow will be here tommorow :bigsmyl:
Check him out excellent feller!
Keith Chastain also has a limited lifetime warranty.
I gave up on warranties back in 1995 when I bought a new F-150. Biggest lemon I ever purchased, and they weaseled their way out of most everything that went wrong.
Now I research the heck out of something before I buy it. I like to think I spend my money wisely on the best product available at the time. If there is a problem with the product, a good reputable company will stand behind it unconditionally, within reason. Now, if I did something stupid, I could not expect the manufacturer to have to fix MY mistake.
I'm still of the old mindset that a man's word and a handshake are all you need.
Why would anyone write a check that they can't cover?
My warranty. I buy back in full, replace with new , or fix. Which ever is applicable. I don't want any unhappy customers.
I make the offer when the bow is bought. If you do not like it and say you are returning it the first week after you get it , I will refund your money in full minus the shipping , I do that unless it is a super custom or a bow that you had special built to the point that it will be unsellable or very hard to sell.
If there is a legitimate bowyer fault or materials fault then it gets fixxed or replaced or money back./
That beats someone saying that they give you a lifetime warranty and then quitting the bow business in 2 years and never honoring it.
God bless you, Steve
Lifetime Warranty??? I agree with Steve, it should be the Life of the Bowyer...
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If the company has been in business and is likely to continue then a lifetime warranty may be good.
I don't know what warranty per-say you expect on something you use up. If you have shot 50,000-60,000 arrows through a bow, what warranty are you due if it fails at some point after that. If you use it nothing last forever.
A warranty is only as good as the company and the company personnel standing behind it. With that being said, my company offers a simple "No-hassle warranty" that openly states that we will make whatever is wrong, right with you. I think most reputable companies will do this without even printing or saying it. I also find that this quality of customer service is pretty commonplace in the archery industry.
However in other industries... I once had a tent that the zipper broke. I really liked that tent and it bothered me that I might have to replace it. This tent style hadn't been made for several years when I contacted the maker about getting it repaired. I expected to pay for the repairs but they took care of it for free, no hassles, no shipping cost or anything! Strangely enough about a monnth later a friend of mine had the exact same tent and the exact same zipper broke as well on his. When he contacted the company, the person he spoke to "wouldn't give him the time of day". Same company, same problem just a different person handling the same situation.
So I agree with the others that a warranty, whether implied or in writing is only as good as the individual person supporting it.
Seems that a company that has been in business for 25 years, offering a warranty that extends to second and third hand owners for 30 years is pretty good. I just can not see any negative in it.
Lots of businesses have gone out of business due to lifetime warranties on their products. Many companies have all but given up on providing warranties or have them written to be useless due to dishonest customers.
No product lasts forever. All bows will eventually fail. The question is in a year, 10 years, or 100 years. Any system that goes thru the number of cycles and vibration levels that a bow does will eventually fail.
here are the terms for the warranty online (on the homepage of bodnik bows):
http://www.bearpaw-blog.com/?page_id=730
It doesn't get any better than that :thumbsup:
I have found that most archery suppliers will bend over backwards to make the customer happy. I have only had one bow problem over the years with a limb seperating, The bow in question was out of waranty (not being the original owner) but after a little negotation it was replaced anyway. I think the archery community as a whole are a little more stand-up than the average business.
James
I agree with "elflanders". Any written warranty will have so many clauses that the warranty still depends on the manufacturer's integrity.
I expect reasonable customer satisfaction that's fair. Everyone I deal with will do that. Lifetime unlimited warranties mean that the price has been inflated to the point the manufacturer can afford to gave some away.
I've had really good, even surprising results, and some really bad problems with warranties. The person or company makes all the difference and the small print is sometimes the killer.
Jerry Halley of lynx creek bows in Alberta offers a lifetime of the bowyer warranty.
QuoteOriginally posted by calgarychef:
Jerry Halley of lynx creek bows in Alberta offers a lifetime of the bowyer warranty.
That is as good a warranty as is possible. It would be even more reasonable if he offered the warranty as long as he is physicaly able to honor it. It might not make one feel as good as saying a 100 percent 100 year warranty but it would be much more factual.
God bless you all, Steve
My Jaguar had a way better warranty than my Honda does.
When I think of warranty I think about wheel guys vs trad guys. Now there is a cut and dry difference between bow companies there. I personally think every customer matters to each bowyer and a trad guy cares about the bowyer as well. I don't think this translates 100% over to wheel guys. Trad isn't "big business" and I'm so glad the personal side and connection between the person who makes the bows and myself exist.
It's clear that traditional guys just down right care about the products, lifestyle, and each other.
I agree with you Pete W completely.
Saying something negative to a good intended warranty is just wrong. And this is coming from a person who's glass IS half empty :)
Its my understanding any reputable bowyer will stand behind their work.
Its unrealistic to expect a small shop to offer a warranty that goes beyond what is fair and reasonable. The goal is to give them our business and not put them out of business, so expecting more than that is unrealistic and puts undue economic pressure on them.
I would never ask a bowyer to replace a bow that I had shot thousands of times or owned for years unless it was clearly his fault at its failure.
A lifetime of the bowyer warranty is above and beyond IMO, not to say anything about one that goes into generational time spans.
Joshua
Its really nice to be an adult and to rationally talk about something like this without personal attacks.
Joe , I have the glass so full its overflowing Bro. Really do. When I posted what I have posted it was simply addressing the warranty. Not the bowyer, Not the bow. I don't even know them and sure would never say anything negative about them.
My contention is simply this. No one can give a warranty or guarantee that will outlast them or even possibly their company. So why bother ? Why the hoopla and carrying on about something that is window dressing. This is not meant in any way to reflect on the intention, which may be 100 % righteous. I am only impugning the warranty effectiveness in reality. It is an unrealistic thing to warranty anything which may be beyond our control. In fact the way the world is going the company and the country and the government may not even exist in its present form in 30 years.
How valid would that thirty year warranty be and of what value is it then?
God bless you all, Steve
steve, im sorry for the confusion. my comment about the glass half empty was directed at me....im the guy with the glass half empty.....at least that is my normal thinking process and yet i believe the intent of the warranty is in good faith. im good with it.
Gentlemen, I have no doubt that the intent of the warranty is good.
Joe, Thanks and sorry for the confusion. Jesus loves you and that knowledge and reminder will keep our glasses full bro.
God bless you all, Steve :campfire:
The one that the bowyer upholds if you have a problem. Ive only ever had one bow that was bad. Didnt work out very well.