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Title: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: david janssen on February 25, 2012, 06:17:00 AM
I was wondering if anyone builds a 58" Hill style longbow?I will be hunting out of my pop-up tent this fall.No hybreds please.I'm looking for the classic D- shape longbow.I just love how smooth these bows are to draw.


Thanks everyone,
David
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Shifting Shadow on February 25, 2012, 06:23:00 AM
I would check with Mike at 7 Lakes Longbow.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Lincoln Ribeiro on February 25, 2012, 06:45:00 AM
I think a 58" Hill style longbow would have a very short maximum draw lenght. Probably it would fit for a up to 5' tall young guy.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Jim Wright on February 25, 2012, 07:12:00 AM
A 58" Hill Style bow that draws smoothly for any adult's draw length is going to be hard to come by.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Izzy on February 25, 2012, 07:53:00 AM
H H  Bear Cub. Very nice, my son had one.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Restless Spirit on February 25, 2012, 08:11:00 AM
Great Northern is making a 58" bow called the Little Creep. I don't think it is a hybred but think it is modeled after his bushbow. It still has the D style look you are looking for but has a little wider and flatter limb. I have a bushbow and I really like it.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: WESTBROOK on February 25, 2012, 08:19:00 AM
About a close as you'll get is the Great Northern Field bow. 60" mild R/D $300, cant go wrong.


"I'm looking for the classic D- shape longbow.I just love how smooth these bows are to draw."]

You wont when there that short.


Cut a Hill bow down that short and you wont like it, less you draw 22" or somethin'

Eric
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Justin Falon on February 25, 2012, 08:54:00 AM
Hard to tell. I am gonna make my own for the same reasons stated above.  I would say it would be hard to go wrong with a Hill bow of any kind.

justin
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: pete p on February 25, 2012, 10:03:00 AM
58" lil creep is the only bow i know of. id be interested to know if there are others out there.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Gil Verwey on February 25, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
Howard Hill also makes the Bobcat which is a 3 lam bow, 60" and up to 45# @ 27".

I had bought Izzy's sons bow and it was beautiful. I bought it for my wife but it was too heavy. I drew that Bear Cub back to 28 and was amazed how smooth and quick it was. I almost kept it for myself for a turkey blind bow.

Gil
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: longbowray on February 25, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
I shoot a 62 in t/d that is smooth out to my 27in draw and love it for blind hunting
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Molson on February 25, 2012, 12:45:00 PM
I would like to shoot a 60" string follow Hill style to compare against my 58" Lil Creep.  I wonder if the bow was in a 50# or so weight if it would really feel that much different.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Ric O'Shay on February 25, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
Check with Craig at Howard Hill Archery. When you come right down to it, there ain't much difference in a 58" and 60". I too have a 60" Hill Bear Cub for my grandson who is 8 years old. The Hill Bobcat will surprise you.    :thumbsup:  

Danny
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: moleman on February 25, 2012, 03:22:00 PM
Steve Abbott builds a sweet little 58 incher, had one with bamboo limbs, great shooter. Got rid of it in a trade for a 68 ", just couldnt get used to the short length.  :archer2:
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: bearbowman on March 12, 2012, 05:57:00 PM
I have a shorter one in the sponsor classifieds
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Orion on March 12, 2012, 09:32:00 PM
David.  If you have anything over a 25-inch draw a 58-inch Hill style bow is not going to be smooth.  it will stack like all get out.  There's a reason Craig doesn't build bows that short for adults.  In a so called longbow, the only way to get some smoothness out of a bow that length is to go to a severe hybrid, something like a Shrew.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: awbowman on March 12, 2012, 10:18:00 PM
Head Orion.  The whole thing about a longbow is IT'S A LONGBOW!

I resisted for the first two years of shooting.  I now shoot a 64" with a 26 1/2" draw.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: J. Oles on March 13, 2012, 12:17:00 AM
Look into the 60" Northern Mist, Baraga.

Smooth out to 29" for me.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: on March 13, 2012, 01:45:00 AM
Howard Hill archery can make a shorter reverse handled bow, but the the draw length still needs to be considered. I bet a shorter reversed string follow would be smooth and accurate.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 13, 2012, 08:40:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by david janssen:
I was wondering if anyone builds a 58" Hill style longbow?I will be hunting out of my pop-up tent this fall.No hybreds please.I'm looking for the classic D- shape longbow.I just love how smooth these bows are to draw.


Thanks everyone,
David
firstly, "classic D shape longbow" can be had with a mild r/d.  what ypu seem to be referring to is an AFL - an american flat longbow, aka "howard hill style longbow".

why sure, a 58" afl absolutely can be, and has been, done.  'cept the draw length is about 24" at max.   :D

click on the first link in my sig line to know more about longbow styles, bow lengths, and draw lengths.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on March 13, 2012, 12:33:00 PM
here you go.... it can be done easy enough. But what kind of draw lengh do you have?

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bow%20building/Boot%20Hill/SANY0001.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bow%20building/Boot%20Hill/SANY0006.jpg)

Side by side with a Hill bow.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bow%20building/Boot%20Hill/SANY0029.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: Jedimaster on March 13, 2012, 12:54:00 PM
Kirk, that looks like a dandy!  I'm impressed ... again.
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: arrow flynn on March 14, 2012, 08:30:00 PM
my friend has a 30 inch draw and has a 68 inch hill ilet him shoot my 70 " hill he said hey i dont feel finger pinch with your bow and it feels lighter!it was 5 lbs heavier at his draw .nothing new here its all been worked out probably thousands of yrs ago.the other ephiphany is the bow too heavy to shoot i fell for that one myself.there are a lot of nice hybrids out there that would work great imho
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on March 15, 2012, 12:18:00 AM
Quote my friend has a 30 inch draw and has a 68 inch hill ilet him shoot my 70 " hill he said hey i dont feel finger pinch....  
There absolutely no reason in the world to have finger pinch at 30" on a 68" bow.....

 
Quotenothing new here its all been worked out probably thousands of yrs ago.  
Now THAT is funny...   :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:  
if you believe that i got some beach front property in Utah i'll sell you...   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: arrow flynn on March 16, 2012, 02:14:00 AM
WHAT CAN I SAY HES GOT LONG ARMS AND HE REALLY WANTS A 72 "HILL
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: zootown2007 on March 16, 2012, 12:44:00 PM
Its not exactly a Hill Style Bow. But here is a link to my 61 Inch tip-to-tip Red Chavez Bitteroot Longbow. 62#@28. ( 59 inch string groove to string groove) Draws smooth as butter, no stacking that I can feel.

http://s1123.photobucket.com/albums/l554/rileynrita/Bitterroot%20Longbow/
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on March 18, 2012, 02:13:00 AM
Riley,  That is a good looking bow there.   :thumbsup:  I'd love to see a picture of that one at full draw.

Judging from the looks of those limbs and the location of the working portion, I'll bet that thing really smokes an arrow too.   :clapper:
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: zootown2007 on March 18, 2012, 12:12:00 PM
kirk, its no slouch, thats for sure. As soon as I get my camera working again I will post a pic at full draw.
Best regards
Title: Re: Anyone build a 58" Hill style longbow???
Post by: stickgunner on March 18, 2012, 02:56:00 PM
I would give Jd Berry a call and get a vixen. Its an American longbow. Very smoooooooth and the best craftsmanship bare none.