Hate to bring up the fact that I just got on the list for a new silvertip again but Im wondering how many other schafer guys shoot elevated rests like Dave does and paul did. It makes sense so one could shoot vanes when faced with wet weather. Did you have change the way shoot at all to accomadate the higher rest and can you swithch back to off the shelf with no problems. The tip I have now is off the shelf and I am deadly with it, should I just stay with off the shelf or get my new bow tillered for a elevated rest?
A lot of guys use an Elevated rest....I tried it and found it to be Okay! I just like a shelf better!
I shoot all my bows off a rest. Works great for me.
Randy
Bear weather rest on both of my Tips, works great!!
I like a recurve with an elevated rest, but shoot longbows off the shelf. I think G. Fred said one time in one of his books that the elevated rest is similiar to the heel down position on a longbow. If you are shooting good, why change?
I shoot off a rest on all my Tips, but don't know if you should experiment with such an expensive guinea pig. Mine shoot fine either shelf or rest, but you never know how things change for each individual.
But I surely do love shooting off a rest.
When I sent mine in to the Windauers for a "remodel touch up", Beth called when it was done and acted :eek: when I told her I was going to shoot off the shelf. Then in the same breath "Do whatever you shoot best with" :thumbsup: "As everyone states "Windauers great to deal with"
I shot mine off the shelf. It shot wonderful, I like the arrow as close to my grip hand as possible and really don't want vanes on my arrows.
With that said to each his own give it a try.
The reason I would consider vanes vs feathers is if on a hunt with limited time frames and wet weather or heavy dew that was unavoidable.
If you are deadly with it don't change a thing ;)
As for vanes, they do shoot well off a rest! I use an old Flipper II rest on my Silvretips. It's set about a 1/4" above the shelf and vanes fly flawlessly! I have tried but can't get them to fly as well off the Bear Weatherrest Dave uses. Others do have better luck so it's probably just me :knothead:
When I did try it off a rest I used a Hoyt stick on that I cut the bottom off to get it down close to the shelf. Like I said, it worked well ,but just not for me!
I Shoot my 'tips off an elevated rest, because I shoot Vanes. However they shoot great off the shelf or off a rest! (http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x132/recurvehunter_2007/ArrowRest-1.jpg)
I tried one of my Tips off a rest and got horrible flight. I messed with the brace height and nocking point but still couldn't get it to fly. So I just went back to off the shelf. I'm getting pretty deadly with my heavy tip now so I just don't want to change a thing. If your wanting to shoot vanes, GO FOR IT! :thumbsup:
i think the only issue might be when you cant your bow and cant it diffrently from shot to shot, your sight picture may change since your arrow is now farther up the sight window...
I use a rest off all my tips- best lesson I ever learned without screwing up first, I just did what Paul did and never looked back.
appreciate everyones input.
I also shoot off a rest, Bear Weatherest, with the bottom cut off. My carbons fly like darts. Easton Axis 500 cut at 27" Total arrow weight is 524 gr. They are weighted. My bow is 48#@27" 60" bow.
Every bow I've ever shot performed better with a rest. I've also never experienced a feather or vane touching any part of the bow if the proper spine was used.
I use a toothbrush rest on my tip with no problems
"i think the only issue might be when you cant your bow and cant it diffrently from shot to shot, your sight picture may change since your arrow is now farther up the sight window..."
I have heard and read that for years and never found it to be a problem. I think the mind and hand coordinate and compensate. I practice with the bow held from vertical to horizontal and don't notice any difference in where the arrow hits.
shoot a bear weatherrest off mine....vanes or feathers fly great..shooting CX Heritage 150's, 28", 300grains up front...
no problem with rest falling off..in fact, when i want to change to a new one I have a heck of a time getting the old one off!
Lee
for the guys that are shooting rests, did you have your bow tillered for it?
I did on two, and still have one tillered off the shelf that I shoot a rest with.
This one was sooo deadly accurate. It was tillered for a rest, and I used a stick on Hoyt Pro rest on it. Got so many critters with that bow, cant believe I sold it. Desperately needed the dough at the time, but I should have sold one of my kidneys instead.
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/bocoteschafer029.jpg)
I will try A rest on the tip I have but it will have to wait till spring. Im currently shooting a winter indoor leauge and my team is in first place. I dont want to get all experimentall untill leauges over.
I use one of Traps feather rests-works great!
Alright, I couldnt stand it anymore and ordered some stickon rests and sheets of moleskin. I set my bow up with the elevated rest and moleskin over the whole shelf area as shown in Mike Walkers post above. I talked to Dave and he said thats how he does it so. It took some experimnenting and I was doing it outside in blizzard conditions but alas things are good. I can shoot s fist size gruop everytime at 20 yds but it is just a little left on the edge of the bull, im sure ill get that worked out. I like the sight picture seems easier to avoid looking at the arrow for some reason and I have a high anchor and this feels more natural as far as bow hand position. I think this is going to be great for me but need more time to tell for sure. Thanks to everyone for your input. Don
Don, I have a new Silvertip coming within a couple weeks. Like you, I have a few stick on rests on standby, waiting for it's arrival.
I plan on setting mine up like Mike Walker's pic above. I battled with hitting right (I'm a lefty) with a similar set up a couple years ago. I am a gap shooter, and find that getting the center shot just right is the whole key to whether I hit to the right or not. I just hope I can get it all worked out on my new bow quickly! :banghead:
Yes I am right handed and I removed the little foam pad off the back of the rest before installing per Daves instructions and I played with point weight and different spines of arrows its not a spine issue just shoots a little off as far as where im looking it is only about 2 inches and the arrows seem to fly great but it was snowing straight in my face. I will shoot inside at the club this evening during leauge and see how they look, but for now Im content.
I've always used and elevated rest. Don't know how one will work on the Sasquatch recurve I got coming though. I don't cant my bow and don't know how that will work off the shelf either.
I use a Bear Weatherrest on my Silvertip and it shoots awesome! I also use plastic vanes on my arrows so the rest is perfect for this. Basically the same set up Paul Schafer used exclusively for everything he hunted, so I'm told. Can't argue with his results in the field. The arrows are whisper quiet in flight and fly lazer beam straight. Simply point and shoot. Accuracy, dependability, durability, and just made for hunting. Can't see myself using anything else for the rest of my hunting days. ~Steve