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Title: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: on February 22, 2012, 08:04:00 PM
hows my calling..?
i thought it was pretty lame but my rabbit squealler is pretty  old.
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Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: lpcjon2 on February 22, 2012, 08:11:00 PM
That looks like a great ambush spot.Oh and I cant hear your calling...LOL
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Shedrock on February 22, 2012, 08:30:00 PM
I really have to be honest. Your calling is bad. You call way too much, and the spot may look good, but it looked to me the wind was going from 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock. If a coyote did respond, more than likely, you would have not seen it. It would have circled downwind over your right shoulder in the trees and winded you.

You need to call with the wind in your face, and only call for 20-30 seconds, keep silent for a couple minutes, then call 20-30 seconds, and so on.

I heard a cough as well. Any coyote within 500+ yards can hear that on a calm to low wind day. I have called coyotes with a lip squeek that where hundreds of yards out. They can hear a mouse squeek at 500 yards.

The first sound was decent, the second sound you made wasn't so good. Not saying it won't work on pups from the previous spring, but adults have heard and seen that song and dance before and will just ignore you. They have been there, and did that.

Not putting you down at all, I just want you to be good at it. I have been calling coyotes for over 25 years, and have been a Goverment hunter for the past 12.

Keep at it bud! You can PM me with any questions, I will sure help.
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: njloco on February 22, 2012, 08:50:00 PM
It sure worked well on the bucks!
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: on February 22, 2012, 08:56:00 PM
thank, shedrock
 i appreceate your honesty,
i pretty much knew my calling stinks, its not something i practice at. theres a bunch of coyotes that are in this area in the eve. when i leave my stand, they are always yipping and howlling, and nobody hunts them. i'l keep my calling down to about 30 seconds. i picked this log pile just for the vantage point to the cleared area everything else is thick woods and valleys.  
thanks again.
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: John Krause on February 22, 2012, 09:20:00 PM
Hold on! They're coming!!!

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Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Shedrock on February 22, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
This time of year, most coyotes are paired up and mating. The last several ******* I have killed were in heat. Howling is a great call now! Coyotes are very territorial, and will come to run your butt out of their area.

Also, if it is like around here, a distress call of a rabbit will scare more coyotes away. Everyone and their brother has been out all winter blowing that sound, and the remaining coyotes are call shy to that. Try a deer distress with your voice. I hold my fingers on my nose while making a whaaaa, or baaaa. Throw in a couple coyote yelps, as if the coyote got kicked, add more deer bawls, and keep watching, they will come.

Also, while bowhunting coyotes, you may want a second person set-up downwind 50 yards or so. Most coyotes will circle, and you want someone there to take them out.

A decoy like a feather blowing in the wind can help. but I have found not needed. Cover scents are way over-rated. I tried skunk, and fox/coyote urine, and them coyotes smelled me right through that stuff at hundreds of yards away. Try to play the wind at all times.

Best of luck to you!

The best way to get good, is to keep after them and learn from mistakes. There are a few decent coyote calling videos out there. Randy Anderson has some good ones that should fit well for your area.
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Shedrock on February 22, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
Sorry, I had a cuss word up there I guess. I should have said females, not *******!
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on February 22, 2012, 10:17:00 PM
Tracey did you say *******?    :laughing:      :nono:  

I agree your calling was a bit weak and long winded.  It had my dogs full attention, it rather drove them nuts.  

I have had best luck with turkey yelping in wooded areas.

keep at it and ask questions, its the best way to get better.
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: on February 23, 2012, 01:14:00 AM
I don't know about the yote calling but it looks like you called in one heck of a nice buck!

Bisch
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: SheltonCreeker on February 23, 2012, 10:54:00 AM
My german shepherd responded well. She almost climbed in my lap to see what the fuss was on the computer. I agree with what was said earlier about using the rabbit call. Those old dogs have heard it and heard it again. Same as seeing a truck slow on the road they will head the other direction cause theyve been shot at before. I like a pup in distress call. Ive had great luck with it. I run electronic callers more choices on those. Easier on your lungs too! But its not for everyone and to each his own. Keep at it!
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: snakebit40 on February 23, 2012, 12:26:00 PM
If you would like I could let you borrow a coyote calling DVD so you could listen to the caller and practice along with him. PM me if your interested. It takes lots of practice and like Shedrock said, learn to howl. Not just one howl but learn their language as well. I get a lot more out of it when I howl them in, plus not everybody and their brother knows how to howl...yet

P.S. That's a GREAT buck! Hope you get a chance at him this fall!
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: mongoose on February 23, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
I wasn't aware that ******* was a cuss word, it's the proper word for a female of the species. Guess the kids will have to stop watching Westminster kennel shows  :biglaugh:    :laughing:
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Killdeer on February 23, 2012, 03:50:00 PM
My pooch had her ears up, but got up when the second call started up. She was looking around the computer, then looked to see if it was on the balcony.

I started howling when the bucks showed up. WOW!!   :eek:    :bigsmyl:
 
I couldn't tell what the second call was supposed to be. Sounded like a flat red shouldered hawk to me. But then, I have no experience calling predators, except when I crack open a beer in camp, ApplePie and Duffy show up.   :dunno:  

Killdeer
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Osage61 on February 23, 2012, 04:00:00 PM
Arrow30 thanks for posting and asking people to critique you. Because of that, I have learned a whole lot today. Thanks again   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Pat B. on February 23, 2012, 04:14:00 PM
Tracy, could you post a short video of a coyote howling and maybe a rabbit distress call too ??

I'd sure like to hear the sounds done by a pro..

I've been trying with limited success..
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: The Vanilla Gorilla on February 23, 2012, 04:26:00 PM
I never call past 15 seconds.  If its a quiet day, ill call for 10 seconds, every 6 to 8 minutes.
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: lpcjon2 on February 23, 2012, 04:27:00 PM
I just realized you have to click the pic.   :knothead:   And killie was right as soon as I started it the dogs came running.
(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/lpcjon2/coyotecall.jpg)

You must be doing something right
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: buckeye_hunter on February 23, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
My sheperd/terrier mix loved it!
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Dirtybird on February 23, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
yupp... sure did bring the deer in. Ha ha...
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: on February 23, 2012, 07:11:00 PM
thanks, for the imformative posts, and im glad i could entertain all the dogs.  
mine just looks at me like im an idiot and lays back down.
i think he prefers sirens, then he howls.

            i'll keep trying,
its a good reason to get out in the woods anyways.     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Wiley Coyote on February 24, 2012, 05:46:00 PM
I don't know anything about coyote calling and many other things but I do know that was one big buck!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Shinken on February 26, 2012, 04:01:00 PM
The "pup challenge" call combined with a 3D decoy can be highly effective this time a year when they are paired up!

Choose your callin' spot wisely....

Keep the wind in your face! (and the sun at your back)

Shoot straight, Shinken

   :archer2:
Title: Re: calling coyotes and...................
Post by: Thumper Dunker on February 26, 2012, 05:00:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Shedrock:
I really have to be honest. Your calling is bad. You call way too much, and the spot may look good, but it looked to me the wind was going from 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock. If a coyote did respond, more than likely, you would have not seen it. It would have circled downwind over your right shoulder in the trees and winded you.

You need to call with the wind in your face, and only call for 20-30 seconds, keep silent for a couple minutes, then call 20-30 seconds, and so on.

I heard a cough as well. Any coyote within 500+ yards can hear that on a calm to low wind day. I have called coyotes with a lip squeek that where hundreds of yards out. They can hear a mouse squeek at 500 yards.

The first sound was decent, the second sound you made wasn't so good. Not saying it won't work on pups from the previous spring, but adults have heard and seen that song and dance before and will just ignore you. They have been there, and did that.

Not putting you down at all, I just want you to be good at it. I have been calling coyotes for over 25 years, and have been a Goverment hunter for the past 12.

Keep at it bud! You can PM me with any questions, I will sure help.
Ditto. lately I been getting them with chalenge barks and howls ect. Fox sounds are good also barks and howls and fox distres calls. coyotes hate foxes.  Like Shed rock said randy anderson has some good vids. Keep at it and don 't give up.Wind always in your face. You can't hide your scent from a coyote.