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Title: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: centerpunch on February 18, 2012, 05:15:00 PM
I've been trying to get my recurve to quiet down! I put some new beaver hide string silencers on and a set of LimbSaver pads on the action part of the limbs.

I also took a piece of walnut and cut out a small block to hold an old cable guard rod and
attached a gun cleaning brush to it. The idea is to have the brush catch the string about the time the arrow leaves the bow. Don't shout me down now for this non-traditional thinking cus it works!

To my surprise,  a very soft thunnnuk! Yes!

Ron

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Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: red hill on February 18, 2012, 08:22:00 PM
Interesting set up, Ron. What about the wear on your bowstring? Could you add a serving to help reduce the friction on that portion of the string?
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: centerpunch on February 18, 2012, 08:51:00 PM
Great idea! Im sure over time it will fray on that part of the string. The brush made such a difference that I will time test it all summer to see the effects! Doesn't matter how slow the arrow as long as the deer don't know its coming!
Right?
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: KellyG on February 18, 2012, 09:13:00 PM
May be get a few tooth brushes of different stiffness and give the a try also. I bet a softer bristles might do even better.

thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: JamesV on February 18, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
I used a small limb-saver and adjusted it where it just touched the string, worked perfect with no loss of speed.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Thumper Dunker on February 19, 2012, 03:48:00 AM
I whant to see a picture.  Kelly I like the tooth brush idea.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Jim Wright on February 19, 2012, 07:37:00 AM
Simply an observation and my personal opinion but that thing's uglier than a frozen 5 buckle overshoe! There has to be a less invasive way to quiet your recurve or get one that's not so noisy. I am assuming that one must really be loud to do that to it.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: lpcjon2 on February 19, 2012, 07:41:00 AM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Mudd on February 19, 2012, 07:53:00 AM
I'm happy for you.

Thinking outside the bow sometimes works.

We never know what will work until we try.

I never got a recurve to shoot as quiet as my Hill style longbows so I made a switch and my remedy worked also with no added wt...lol

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Guru on February 19, 2012, 08:00:00 AM
Oh my!

I've never worked with a stickbow in all my years that couldn't be silenced with proper brace height, proper silencers and placement, and the proper string.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: zipper bowss on February 19, 2012, 08:04:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Guru:
Oh my!

I've never worked with a stickbow in all my years that couldn't be silenced with proper brace height, proper silencers and placement, and the proper string.
I agree with Curt BUT and I think this is the most important part. Its your world Ron and if tickles you then I say go with it!
Bill
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: leatherneck on February 19, 2012, 08:22:00 AM
:confused:
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Rick Richard on February 19, 2012, 09:20:00 AM
Very interesting, but not too pretty to me.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on February 19, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by zipper bowss:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Guru:
Oh my!

I've never worked with a stickbow in all my years that couldn't be silenced with proper brace height, proper silencers and placement, and the proper string.
I agree with Curt BUT and I think this is the most important part. Its your world Ron and if tickles you then I say go with it!
Bill [/b]
I agree with Curt and Bill.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on February 19, 2012, 10:58:00 AM
Maybe your nock on your arrow is to tight.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: frankwright on February 19, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Guru:
Oh my!

I've never worked with a stickbow in all my years that couldn't be silenced with proper brace height, proper silencers and placement, and the proper string.
I agree 100%.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: elknutz on February 19, 2012, 12:46:00 PM
I have to admit the pictures made me chuckle, but if your having fun working with it I say Good For You!
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 19, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by frankwright:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Guru:
Oh my!

I've never worked with a stickbow in all my years that couldn't be silenced with proper brace height, proper silencers and placement, and the proper string.
I agree 100%. [/b]
Yes, but have you ever shot his recurve?   :dunno:    ;)  

Way to go making it quiet and having fun with it!
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: centerpunch on February 19, 2012, 03:41:00 PM
Wow, I think I may have ruffled some fletchings!
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Mudd on February 19, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by centerpunch:
Wow, I think I may have ruffled some fletchings!
Naw! You're all good!

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: ProArcher on February 19, 2012, 04:08:00 PM
Just wondering if you are shooting heavy enough arrows.  I shoot a PSE Coyote without any string silencers at all, and the guys I shoot with say they don't hear a sound even when I'm shooting Carbon arrows. I draw 52 lbs at 27". Shooting 30" Beman Hunter 500 with 145gr tips and 5" feathers. Accurate, fast, and quiet.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Bowwild on February 19, 2012, 04:12:00 PM
centerpunch!

Oh my gosh! It's hard to type while laughing! And I'm NOT dissing you at all here.

I recoommend you quickly move away from anything flamable.  I'm sure there are bits of tongue lying on the floor all over the Trad Gang world about now.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: on February 20, 2012, 12:10:00 AM
Interesting.......

Bisch
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: ckanous on February 20, 2012, 06:05:00 AM
I have said it before , I love tinkering and DIY projects. I'm gonna go make one now just for something to do! Good job
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Rick Richard on February 20, 2012, 06:11:00 AM
Colgate or Crest? LOL
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Guru on February 20, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by DVSHUNTER:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by frankwright:
   
quote:
Originally posted by Guru:
Oh my!

I've never worked with a stickbow in all my years that couldn't be silenced with proper brace height, proper silencers and placement, and the proper string.
I agree 100%. [/b]
Yes, but have you ever shot his recurve?     :saywhat:    

Whatever floats your boat fellas, have at it     :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Manitoba Stickflinger on February 20, 2012, 10:04:00 AM
WOW...a string supressor on a trad bow! Personally, I find it very interesting and the flack you'll get here is due to the "compound" look it has using the cable guard. If it had a more "trad" look it would be more quickly accepted.

Getting the bow quiet is one thing, but having the benefit of stopping the string travel is another. Shooting a trad bow in cold weather often means being bundled up like the state puff marshmallow man and having contact issues with the string. This little invention could eliminate that issue. Great thinking IMO!...Ryan
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: agtex42 on February 20, 2012, 05:08:00 PM
Nice fab work, cool to see an idea go from someone's head to on the bow!

Have you tried padding your string loops with yarn?  I have a recurve that I just couldnt tune the "loud" out of a while back.  No matter what I did with the brace height, nock fit, string silencers, etc the noise just wouldn't dampen.  Finally tried to pad the loops and man did that make a difference.

Get yourself about 5 feet of Merino wool yarn, split the string 1/4" below where the limb makes contact with the string and insert one end of your yarn.  Now simply start wrapping the yarn around your string toward the loop.  Once you get to the loop pass the yarn through and begin wrapping in the opposite direction until you get back to where you started.  Insert the tag end back through your string, trim the excess and repeat on the other end.

Kuddos on the silencer, but you might consider giving this method a try while you're in the tinkering mood.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: centerpunch on February 20, 2012, 06:10:00 PM
Yes, I'll have to admitt that the black shaft is too much of a crossover from the cable gun! I was going to use a wood cedar shaft and still may do that! Keep in mind that my bow is tuned very well before I tried this and was really quiet. I didn't need the brush! But are we ever really satisfied? I just took it a step further with the brush. I'm telling you it is even better now!! I love the feedback gentlemen! Good and bad! I bet a few of you wish you would have thought of it first! Eh?
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Tomas on February 20, 2012, 09:09:00 PM
If you have wear on the string from the brush you could serve that portion.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: iohkus on February 20, 2012, 10:49:00 PM
centerpunch, did you try or have you considered one of the string stoppers/tamers/
decelerators/suppressors(whatevers)that stops the string with a cushioned pad, as I have been curious about using one myself?
  My idea,though,would be to install an accessory insert in the face of the riser.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Jack Guard on February 20, 2012, 11:05:00 PM
Ok, this is out of character for me.  I rarely get involved in this sort of post but i cant help myself.  I am a very open kinda guy, i accept different opinions and attitudes.  

But not this one.....

This forum is about Traditional Bow Hunting and activities that relate.  We all know that !

I am NOT a staunch traditionalist, but using a cable guard to help silence a recurve bow, especially an old school, curved limb Bighorn is ridiculous.

I am in total agreement with Curt.  and I have shot these bows.  I own one now.  Love it.  

If you spent enough time with that bow, sorted out the brace height and properly tuned arrow,  Most of the sound would be suppressed.  Add in some Bow Hush and String silencers and you have a deadly combination.  

Now for my open minded side....I admire the fact that you looked at options.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: JamesKerr on February 20, 2012, 11:11:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Guru:
Oh my!

I've never worked with a stickbow in all my years that couldn't be silenced with proper brace height, proper silencers and placement, and the proper string.
Same here.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: TxAg on February 20, 2012, 11:22:00 PM
I think it's neat. Good for you.
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: centerpunch on February 21, 2012, 12:08:00 AM
iohkus,
Yes I did consider the cushion pad! Thats what got me thinkin bout this in the first place. But I decided that I didn't want the shot to come to a sudden stop, for fear of damaging the limbs. So the next best thing was to let the string BRUSH up against something and slow down as naturally as possible!

Jack Guard,
Thanks for your comments. Please go back and read my earlier comments where I stated that the bow was tuned properly and had no problems. It shoots as good today as the day Mr. Asbell custom built it for me back in 1986! And I didn't even have to drill and tap the riser to install the brush. It was built that way. Back then I was surprised to learn that Bighorn offered mounts for sights and stabilizers but they did. And my bow has both. I've never used them until now! I was just digging a little deeper and came up with the brush.

Personally I believe that SIGHTS on any traditional bow is a NO! NO! And way worse than the brush!

Ron
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: Orion on February 21, 2012, 03:08:00 PM
Whew!  I'm relieved.  I've owned a number of Bighorns, and I'm aware that they were sometimes tapped for the Quickie quiver mount as well as the Bighorn quiver.  Extra holes are extra holes, but you only took advantage of what was there.  Didn't descecrate  a classic, which I think a few people who responded thought, and that may have colored their responses a little.  Interesting solution, though my experience has been like Guru's.  Never found a bow I couldn't quiet with various adjustments and string silencers. Whatever floats your boat.   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Non -Traditional thinking
Post by: PaddyMac on February 21, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
My first reaction...

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   :bigsmyl:    


But I've been guilty of far worse... It's all good.

I think recurves are just noisy things. I quieted mine down with wool puff balls, building up the strike plate, heavy heads, Bow Hush and lots of tuning. It's pretty quiet.

but before I get a cable guard, I think I'll get a longbow.