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Title: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Wannabe1 on February 07, 2012, 01:40:00 PM
Just curious as to who is content with their SETUP and ready to go for the year, and who likes to play around with different SETUPS before preparing for hunting season? I.E. different bows, arrows and tip weights. etc. etc.

I want to get the perfect setup that works for me, and stick with it through the year.    :D
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Over&Under on February 07, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Content?  When it comes to bows that word is not found in my vocabulary  :)

I am working toward contentment though and hope to get a set up this year that works and stick with it!
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: BOWMARKS on February 07, 2012, 01:45:00 PM
I doubt I will ever be content,I love archery and will always be playing as long as possable!!    

Can not seem to get away from the classifieds and can
never go to a show that I do not come home in debt again.  :banghead:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: snakebit40 on February 07, 2012, 01:45:00 PM
I'm content with the bows I have. Two Silvertips and I've got some great arrows match to both.

The thing I'm playing with now is broadheads. I'm thinking I'll give Simmons Tree Shark a try this turkey season. I haven't decided if I'm going with the tree shark, WW, or VPA for deer. But that's a long ways away    :dunno:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Smithhammer on February 07, 2012, 01:51:00 PM
I wish I could say I was, but I'm getting more and more intrigued with reducing my fletching area. So far I've stepped down to 3 x 4" with good results, which of course now makes me curious about going down to 3". So yeah, I'm still tweaking...
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Covey on February 07, 2012, 02:16:00 PM
I've been shootin the same bow for the last...probably five years. I don't like to change alot. When I pic up my bow...there's no guessin. If I don't hit what I'm lookin at it's my fault. Not to say I wouldn't like to change every now and then, I just fight the urge!  :D  
OH, same arrows too!

Jason
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Shakes.602 on February 07, 2012, 02:27:00 PM
Tinker... Tinker...Tinker!!! Then I remember a Wise man once told me, "If it Aint Broke, Dont Fix It!"   :biglaugh:  I usually get another bow to tinker with.  :archer2:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Rick Richard on February 07, 2012, 02:37:00 PM
I am still in the 'new' phase and still exploring what will work best for me. I don't know if this phase will ever end though.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Plumber on February 07, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
I got my silver tip all set up I cant make it any better.now I just bought a long bow  this week so the work starts over.I also have another longbow that I want to try some new arrows to see if I can get it to shoot the way I want it dont do too bad now but I know I can get more out of it.I got my head in this stuff 24/7 I cant get enought.if I not trinkering Iam planing cleaning up or re situation something.this is the best sport in the world!!!
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: coaster500 on February 07, 2012, 02:43:00 PM
Thought I was them started building selfbows!!! Everyone of them shoots different   :scared:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: cacciatore on February 07, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
I am very content with my bow,but I want to be more content!!!I choose the bow I want to use for hunting,but I play with some other at short range,the same is for arrow and BHs.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: FerretWYO on February 07, 2012, 03:08:00 PM
I change very little. I constantly look for minor improvments to my form. Other than that I dont change much at all.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Wannabe1 on February 07, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
Randy, once I have my setup complete, I'm hoping FORM is the only thing I mess with the rest of this year. I really need to practice shooting at different angles!   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: FerretWYO on February 07, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
Practicing angles is good advice for us all.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: dragonheart on February 07, 2012, 03:21:00 PM
I have one style/discipline of shooting now.  I have played the field for the last 5 yrs.  Way too much money spent on bows, arrows, etc. that could have gone to hunting trips.  In the end, I have returned to the shooting of my youth.  A simple straight end longbow, with thick/narrow limbs, a wedge style grip, wooden arrow, and back quiver.  I have a sense of peace since an acceptance that there is no magic bow and arrow.  The magic is in each of us to develop through dedicated & disciplined practice.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Smithhammer on February 07, 2012, 03:24:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by dragonheart:
  I have a sense of peace since an acceptance that there is no magic bow and arrow.  The magic is in each of us to develop through dedicated & disciplined practice.
Well said.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on February 07, 2012, 03:25:00 PM
Content.   I resist the urge to tinker.   I went so far as to spend 2 years working up arrows that will shoot out of my bow, the wifes bow, and the daughters bow with just a change of head weight.  Tricia and I shoot the same bow from the same make in different weights.  Can you say the wifes 3 bows are my extra back up bows?  I sure can.  I have three bows.  All are the same type from the same bowyer.  I have two 50lb @ 28 and one 41 @ 28.  Tricia can shoot all three of my bows as well as her own.  If we want a new bow we order the same bow with different woods in them.  When we feel the urge for something new, I make up a different type of quiver or a new haversack, make her or I a new knife, etc....

The consistancy has helped improve my shooting dramatically.  I know when I screw up a shot, it was me and not the bow or other equipment.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Easykeeper on February 07, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
I'm content but like to play around.  I have a favorite bow and have yet to find one I like better.  In fact I like it so well I finally ordered my first brand new custom from the same bowyer after having lots of different used bows.  That said I still love to cruise the classifieds and try different bows.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: awbowman on February 07, 2012, 05:44:00 PM
Happier than a pig in slop! LOL

BUUUUUT I do keep a rather large bow kitty on hand  ...  just in case!   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Bowhunter4life on February 07, 2012, 05:53:00 PM
I've been thinking about this a bunch lately myself...

I play way to much... actually thinking of selling a bunch of bows and sticking to a set few...  Most if not all of the bows I do own should make me content and actually could if I didn't play so much.

I guess I need to re-evaluate what is the most important to me and go from there...
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Ben Maher on February 07, 2012, 06:08:00 PM
I am content as most of my bows are of the same type and running the same specs ... asdie from some lighter 'target' weight bows that are 40# ... All my Hillstyle bows are muc the same and shoot roughly the same arrows ...

Thats why I have two more on order ... lol
But they are my hunting set ups / roving set ups and I doubt that will change much

But I leave the "playing around" for my ILF rigs .....
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Gen273 on February 07, 2012, 06:43:00 PM
I have a bow that I love, but I always like to try new things. To me, that is half of the fun.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: JV Rooster on February 07, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
I was content till I seen a St Joe River longbow. Now in 3 weeks I will be placing my order for one.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: zipper bowss on February 07, 2012, 07:12:00 PM
Never! If you are standing still you are going backwards.There is always room for improvemnts.
Bill
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: TAWL on February 07, 2012, 07:35:00 PM
I will never be perfect, therefore I will never be content.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: JamesKerr on February 07, 2012, 07:36:00 PM
Once I find what works best for me. I stick with it. I have not changed my set up except for arrows in over a year.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: BOWMARKS on February 07, 2012, 07:43:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by zipper bowss:
Never! If you are standing still you are going backwards.There is always room for improvemnts.
Bill
X2  :thumbsup:    :clapper:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: DennyK on February 07, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
I'm content with what I have, but do need to fight off the urge to get another bow from time to time. I have 2 Widows one I've had for 8 years, the other 5 years. I suppose the only thing I will probably add this year is a 47@28 58" set of limbs for my PSAX for shooting out of trees.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Smithhammer on February 07, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by zipper bowss:
Never! If you are standing still you are going backwards.There is always room for improvemnts.
Bill
Exactly. "Traditional" or not, we wouldn't have the equipment we have today (whether primitive selfbow or carbon recurve) without people continuing to tinker and improve. Trad doesn't mean stuck in the past.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Wannabe1 on February 07, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
QuoteIf you are standing still you are going backwards
I respectfully disagree with this!    :bigsmyl:   Equipment 30 and 40+ years ago can still get the job done same as these modern improvements. It would seem to me, that finding a setup that is completely tuned and sticking with it; whether it be old or new tackle, would narrow your margin for errors in the field. Equipment wise that is. And besides, I'm not talking about equipment improvements, just setup improvements.

There is always room for form and tactics improvements!
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Smithhammer on February 07, 2012, 08:01:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Wannabe1:

There is always room for form and tactics improvements!
Agreed & included in my statement above!
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Wannabe1 on February 07, 2012, 08:02:00 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on February 07, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by FerretWYO:
I change very little. I constantly look for minor improvments to my form. Other than that I dont change much at all.
That pretty much sums up my take on things as well.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: zipper bowss on February 07, 2012, 08:43:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by zipper bowss:
Never! If you are standing still you are going backwards.There is always room for improvemnts.
Bill
That should have read if I'm standing still I'm going backwards.If someone is happy with their set up, more power to them.I on the other hand can not be completely happy with the products that I produce.If there is room for improvement then I have to pursue that improvement.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Wannabe1 on February 07, 2012, 08:45:00 PM
Might I say Bill, you have a fantastic product, and hopefully someday, I will own one of those new one piece longbows. That bow is sweet looking without any sugar!!   :D    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: zipper bowss on February 07, 2012, 08:49:00 PM
Thank you sir! :D
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: gregg dudley on February 07, 2012, 09:13:00 PM
I have used the same bow, arrow, and broadhead setup for the past three years but this year I changed broadheads...Just because  :p
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: on February 07, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
I am so content I even hate to put a new string on my bow!!!!!!!!!

As Bill said above, I know I am not as good as I can be and strive every day to get better with form and technique. But the bow is just fine the way it is!

Bisch
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: champ38 on February 07, 2012, 09:44:00 PM
When i first got into trad, i bought/sold/traded a lot. Over the past 2 yrs Ive stuck with one bow, a 56" Shrew CH 67@291/2" with same arrow wt...my shooting/accuracy has improved sig.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: mmgrode on February 07, 2012, 09:57:00 PM
Usually make a new hunting bow (or a few!) every year.  Like the change from year to year. Always trying to improve my designs. I keep my old bows as backups.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: gregg dudley on February 07, 2012, 10:11:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
I am so content I even hate to put a new string on my bow!!!!!!!!!

Bisch
That is hilarious!  I REALLY hate to put a new string on!  All that messing with brace height!  :laughing:  Seriously!
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: kbetts on February 07, 2012, 10:17:00 PM
I can't get enough.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: dragonheart on February 08, 2012, 06:18:00 AM
Accuracy comes from shooting the same set-up, bow, arrow combination over and over.  Each bow has its own character to it and shooting characteristics.  I have been in that cycle of constant change for 5 yrs.  New bows, different arrows, etc.  Talk to people that shoot well and you will see a common thread.  They shoot the same setup year after year. I have shot my best in years past by being "content" and knowing where my bow was going to shoot.  That is all I shot, one bow and arrow setup.  Am I content?  Maybe that is not the right word.  In finding a setup that works, a bow and arrow combination that is appealing to me, and sticking with it, I see that I am having more accurate days than days of frustration.  I am enjoying the discipline of one way of shooting, one method, style, equipment choice.  In bowhunting, confidence is a big key in taking game.  Being so "intune" with your style and equipment that you can shoot out of habit, without   thought on the mechanics, helps greatly with taking game.  Constant change is what has hindered me for many years.  Changing form all the time is not productive to accurate shooting.  Changing bows all the times has the same effect.  Only golfers appear to tinker as much as archers.  I have overthought my equipment and form for years.  Most of the time when a shooting issues arises after we have been shooting well it is a mistake in basic form, a poor habit, not an equipment issue.  But, what if I ....

Nope, I will stick with what I have and resist that urge to tinker.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: joevan125 on February 08, 2012, 08:37:00 AM
Its a lot like golf and anyone who plays will now exactly what im talking about.

You can go out and shoot the best round of your life and still realize there's room for improvement.

Same with a bow no matter how good you get you are always striving to get better.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Jeff Roark on February 08, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
I'm content with my equipment. I only want to add a Herway Longbow to my collection since I don't have a longbow.

What I am not content with is my woodsmanship and hunting skill. I need to become more proficient at killing things.

Like a friend told me, "alot of people try to buy skill with all these new bows and stuff, you can't buy skill."
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Bowwild on February 08, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
My form doesn't change. I work on fine points to make them more subconscious; a relaxed grip and follow through are the two keys to my accuracy.

The only thing common to my equipment set-up from 2010 to 2011 was .... my armguard. I used a different bow, different spine MFX, different weight but same brand broadhead. I even switched from a glove to a tab.

I'm confident I will use the same arrow and broadhead this year. I will also stick to the same tab. Surely I will hunt with a different bow, maybe the one I'm trying out today?  In fact, I suppose I'll hunt with one bow during turkey season and a different one when Deer season comes around.

All my bows are recurves. Their draw weights range from a 44# Super K to a 48# Habu Mamushi that I'm trying out this week.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Altiman94 on February 08, 2012, 02:29:00 PM
I am content with my bow (50# hoyt buffalo) but not my actual arrows.  I've been shooting some 1916's but want heavier carbons.  I'm tired of bending the arrows when pulling out of targets, stumps, the ground, etc....I just need to get my hands on some more carbons and heavier heads.  I was thinking about weight tubes....
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Wannabe1 on February 08, 2012, 02:31:00 PM
If you are pulling your bow to 50#, Arrow Dynamic Trad Lites work real well for me.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Margly on February 08, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
:archer:

To much testing to be done yet  :)
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: bow_man_66 on February 08, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
Well I am not content yet, new set up this year. New Centaur bow will need a new set up. But from what I've seen so far just might be with me for a while!!! Was thinking of trying some of the Centaur broad heads too, any input from those who have used them in the past would be appreciated.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Red Beastmaster on February 08, 2012, 04:32:00 PM
I left the tinkering behind 25 years ago when I gave up the compound. I find what works and do not change it.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: frassettor on February 08, 2012, 04:35:00 PM
I have shot the same setup now for 4 years, and honestly, I will never change! It's what is the most comfortable for me.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: joe skipp on February 08, 2012, 06:21:00 PM
Again...I'm old fashioned. Find what works, stick with it. Why mess with success.
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Post by: jon boy on February 08, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
I change all the time, both arrows broadheads.  I keep the total arrow weights close though.  I also change bows more than I should, but all my bows shoot very close to each other.  No problems.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Shakes.602 on February 14, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
I am Content with My Equipment, just not too Content with the Human Factors Involved, namely  ME!   :knothead:    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Encino Man on February 14, 2012, 10:23:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by dragonheart:
I have one style/discipline of shooting now.  I have played the field for the last 5 yrs.  Way too much money spent on bows, arrows, etc. that could have gone to hunting trips.  In the end, I have returned to the shooting of my youth.  A simple straight end longbow, with thick/narrow limbs, a wedge style grip, wooden arrow, and back quiver.  I have a sense of peace since an acceptance that there is no magic bow and arrow.  The magic is in each of us to develop through dedicated & disciplined practice.
Amen!!

I shoot one bow and I shoot it well. And I know my bow shoots twice as accurate as I do. Time spent  practicing is better than money spent tinkering.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: karrow on February 14, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
always playing around with my setup. always shooting a diffrent bow. that way i never get tired of any of them.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Orion on February 14, 2012, 10:30:00 PM
I'm always playing around, but I have at least a half-dozen bow/arrow combinations I can take off my rack and hunt with complete confidence.  For me, there is no one best.  There are a lot of bests.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: JamesKerr on February 14, 2012, 10:30:00 PM
Since I first posted on this topic I have decided to get a take down bow. This will be the last bow I buy for a long time. I tend to find something that works for me and stick with it. The only reason I am getting a take down is for it's ease of travelling. Once I have my take down it will take something noticeably different and much improved than anything offered at this time period for me to buy it.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: Wannabe1 on February 14, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
I've pretty much got my setup for this year so, the tinkering is over and the practice, practice and practice begins!   :thumbsup:

Oh ya, did I say the practicing begins?   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: duncan idaho on February 15, 2012, 11:22:00 AM
There are too many beautiful bows out there to be content.
Title: Re: R U Content Or.......Do You Like to Play Around?!
Post by: 1screagle on February 15, 2012, 12:23:00 PM
I love to tinker till I find what I want and like, then I stick with it until I stumble upon a possible revelation worth trying. Always willing to learn and try something if it makes sense. Lets just say I don't stray as far from the base anymore and spend more time learning to focus intensely and just enjoy the ride. The reward is sweet when you can hit pay dirt just as planned.