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Title: Arrows for a Hill / Long Draw
Post by: Chain2 on February 06, 2012, 03:18:00 PM
I have a couple guys helping me out with this so I thought I would solicit help from everyone. I am shooting a Hill Wesley Special that I think is heavier than it's stated #50 @ 30 and I am drawing almost 32" on top of that. I have tried some Arrow Dynamics Hammerhead Lites with 200 gr heads, they appear to be wek spined. I tried 175's and they fly better but they aren't where I want them to be. I don't want to go a lighter tip weight, this is my elk weapon. Do I go to the Hammerhead which is heavier spined and add a bunch of tip weight if needed. None of the above arrows are cut. They are the full 32 1/2 ". I think this is a good arrow. Made in USA. I am just having issues getting them to fly straight. What ar eyou other long draw Hill shooters shooting? Thank you
Title: Re: Arrows for a Hill / Long Draw
Post by: Shakes.602 on February 06, 2012, 03:40:00 PM
Surewood Laminated Shafts...Skip the Hi-Tech Carbon Jobs!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Arrows for a Hill / Long Draw
Post by: Chain2 on February 06, 2012, 04:31:00 PM
Huh? I am not familiar with those.
Title: Re: Arrows for a Hill / Long Draw
Post by: lpcjon2 on February 06, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
Contact Fletcher from the Feathered shaft,he can hook you up.
Title: Re: Arrows for a Hill / Long Draw
Post by: WESTBROOK on February 06, 2012, 04:54:00 PM
Yup, I would go with the HammerHeads.

Hills are good for being a few pounds heavier than marked and your drawing almost 2" beyond, so your holding all of 60#.

Eric
Title: Re: Arrows for a Hill / Long Draw
Post by: Looper on February 06, 2012, 08:52:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Shakes.602:
Surewood Laminated Shafts...Skip the Hi-Tech Carbon Jobs!   :thumbsup:  
What are Surewood Laminated Shafts?

A problem he is going to face, like I do, is that a standard length wood shaft is too short.
Title: Re: Arrows for a Hill / Long Draw
Post by: Chain2 on February 07, 2012, 09:31:00 AM
I am tempted to shorten my arm. I thought I was going to simplify things by getting rid of the cams and wheels.
Title: Re: Arrows for a Hill / Long Draw
Post by: snag on February 07, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
Surewood Shafts does not make a laminated shaft. Their shafts are solid douglas fir. You can always have someone like Great Basin Footed Shafts foot a full length shaft to add length.
Title: Re: Arrows for a Hill / Long Draw
Post by: on February 07, 2012, 05:26:00 PM
Chain,
Are you switching to a Hill-style bow from a another "type" of bow?  The reason I ask is that your draw length is unusually long for an Hill.

When I shot 'curves I pulled an average of 31" depending on the bow/grip config.  I shoot Hills exclusively now and my draw has "morphed" to a tad less than 27".

I have loooong arms and am 6'2" but pull 27".  This is normal if you have properly adapted to the heel-down grip with a slightly bent elbow of your bow arm.  

When I started trad I was used to shooting a minimum of 31"

If I am jumping to conclusions I apologize....many of the good people here at TG have taught me over time and I am hoping to save you some grief by taking you back to the basics.

It is all good....and when you have it nailed down, it is awesome!
Title: Re: Arrows for a Hill / Long Draw
Post by: Chain2 on February 07, 2012, 07:25:00 PM
I have my elbow bent some. I think my grip looks right, comparing it to pictures I have seen. I guess I could bend my elbow more. I have read Fergusan's book numerous times and have watched videos. I think I am doing it right. I am going to have my wife try to video me this weekend. I will see if I can get it posted when we do. No apology needed, I need all the help I can get. I went from an Oneida to another Oneida, played around with a recurve that was really stacking on me for a month or so and then I got this Hill. The Oneidas were over a period of 20 years, mostly hunting whitetail. That is my archery experience, at a glance. I never cut my arrows with the Oneidas even though my rest was back, I think the release helped with my draw then. I seem to be anchoring my right thumb behind my ear like I did when shooting with a release. Thank you