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Title: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: kasey on January 31, 2012, 11:56:00 AM
Which would be the best choice.the bow is 60"40@28 I pull 29 1/2.the carbons ar gt 5575 the wood is surewood douglas fir
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: Austin on January 31, 2012, 12:02:00 PM
I feel the carbons will be much more forgiving and easier to tune. Those carbons may be too stiff without a lot of weight up front.
Austin
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Post by: lpcjon2 on January 31, 2012, 12:09:00 PM
At your draw you are around 43-45# and DF are cheep enuf and would a good choice to have and shoot, as well as weaker spine carbon.Try both.
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Post by: trad_in_cali on January 31, 2012, 12:16:00 PM
I shoot 500 spine out of my 40# Titan, and making now 600 spine carbons out of my Tomahawk 40# longbow (different degrees of cut to center). 55/75 are way too stiff for that weight, they'll behave badly. You may get away with long 35/55s with weight upfront.
Marco
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: kasey on January 31, 2012, 12:16:00 PM
Im saying I have both.the 5575 shoot great out of the bow.I got 2you dozen of the wood shafts in trade new un cut and didn't know if they would be better
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 31, 2012, 12:23:00 PM
My thoughts are if you have 2 dozen then do a dozen up and see if you like them,plenty of guys use wood at that poundage. At worst you could sell them if you dont like them or stump shoot with them. They will fly good out of your bow if you tune it well.
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: kasey on January 31, 2012, 12:28:00 PM
It was the co for sure wood that sent me the shafts for that bow set up.they are spined at 50-55 weight is 360- 370 and full length. What length and point weight would be best. I have never made woodies before
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Post by: Ragnarok Forge on January 31, 2012, 12:29:00 PM
Better for what?   Target or hunting?  You need to know what you want to get an kind of clear answer.
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: Ray Borbon on January 31, 2012, 12:30:00 PM
Fir shafts work quite well out of any bow I have. To me there is no advantage to the composition of the shaft itself with regards to wood versus carbon if both are spined to match the setup and the overall arrow is tuned properly. The real differences between carbon and wood is going to be a trade-off with regards to applying weight up front being made easier with carbon shafts as well as being able to get thinner shafts on the carbon. Wood shafts are inherently much quieter when shot.
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: kasey on January 31, 2012, 12:41:00 PM
I want them for hunting.if the raw shaft is 11/32 do I get the same size knock and taper tool
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: Bjorn on January 31, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
I only shoot wood and the only reason to shoot wood is love! If you have to ask, shoot the other material.   :archer:
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 31, 2012, 01:09:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by kasey:
I want them for hunting.if the raw shaft is 11/32 do I get the same size knock and taper tool
Yes
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: SS Snuffer on January 31, 2012, 01:27:00 PM
5575 are waay to stiff!!
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: kasey on January 31, 2012, 02:05:00 PM
Ok back to the wood what would be a good point weight
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 31, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
What is the spine rating for the DF you have ?
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Post by: Troy Breeding on January 31, 2012, 02:37:00 PM
If you ever want to try for high FOC you would be better off with carbon. The results of high FOC out weigh just plain overall weight everytime.

Troy
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: kasey on January 31, 2012, 03:02:00 PM
50-55
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 31, 2012, 03:18:00 PM
Cut to 28" You could start with a 160gn head and go up.
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: kasey on January 31, 2012, 03:20:00 PM
I draw 291/2
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 31, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
My bad lost my head for a moment. At full length start with a 135 ( Zwickey) or 160 (Snuffer)grn head.
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: Plumber on January 31, 2012, 03:58:00 PM
carbons would probally serve you better but I would think you would be way better off with a 35-55 55-75 is way too stiff for that set up
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: kasey on January 31, 2012, 05:09:00 PM
Should I keep them full or cut them to my draw
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Post by: Bjorn on January 31, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
IMO the only reason to cut a shaft is for tuning-to make it stiffer.
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Post by: lpcjon2 on January 31, 2012, 05:14:00 PM
I think they are what 31" try them at full and if you need to stiffen them up then cut them down.
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Post by: Plumber on January 31, 2012, 05:38:00 PM
if you are a true 29.5 dont cut them. I am 6ft 3 an I was superised to find out I am only a 28 inch draw.one day we all measured our selves shocked to find how short our draws really are.bows are based on a 28 inch draw for an avarage.most guys are probally a 27 inch draw an dont even know it.so if the person is drawing 50 at 28 but is a 27 inch draw they are really only drawing 47 lbs or so.
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: kasey on January 31, 2012, 10:33:00 PM
Ya I draw all 29 1/2
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: Shakes.602 on January 31, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
Try making or using some 5/16 dia. Arrows. They Scream out of a 40 pounder!!
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 01, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
You're drawing 29.5 inches and therefore will have 30.5 inches to the back of the point for the wood shafts. You're actual draw weight is around 43#, so if your bow is high performance longbow or recurve (ie fast flight string, cut to center or past, ect) you may be underspined with 50-55 spine wood arrows.  Typically you'd add about 5# of spine per inch draw past 28 to bow weight.  This would put you at 43+(1.5"x5#) so you're at 50#'s with a 125 grain point.  If you have a skinny fast flight material string and cut to center bow, you may need to add another 10# of spine, put you up to the 60# group.  Can you tell us what kind of bow and string you're shooting??  

Here's my personal example. I'm shooting a 1971 Bear Super Kodiak which is 43#@28 inches. I draw 29" (arrow is cut 30" to back of point) and I'm shooting a 55-60 pound spine Douglas Fir arrow with 125 grain point. The bow uses a B-50 string and the arrow rest is 1/8" from center cut (the closer to center the stiffer the spine needed).
Title: Re: carbon vs wood with a light bow?
Post by: kasey on February 02, 2012, 10:15:00 AM
Ok I ordered a field point test kit and the other stuff to build the arrows.ill play with them and see what works best