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Title: Brodhead choice help
Post by: rluttrell on January 29, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
I took up archery about 6 months ago with the intent of hunting. I have never hunted before and am working towards being proficient enough to hunt this year.  I have plans of hunting deer and pig.
I am shooing bemans 400 MFX classic with a 100 grain tip. they are 31" My bow shots 54# with my 31 inch draw. The arrows fly great with this set up.
I have no clue as what Brodhead to use. I would like to purchase some to start practicing with as well as get ready to hunt. Do you use the same for both?  Thanks for all imput
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 29, 2012, 07:04:00 PM
IMHO I think you need to bump up your head weight to at least 125gr head. As far as type of BH you can search past threads with the search future by the profile bar up top and find 100's of topics with tips ect.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: owlbait on January 29, 2012, 07:09:00 PM
Zipper Bows is producing the Grizzly broadheads now. A wide range of weights with a proven track record at a reasonable price. Check them out and good luck.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: rluttrell on January 29, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
QuoteAs far as type of BH you can search past threads with the search future by the profile bar up top and find 100's of topics with tips ect  
It's not that I can't search, I just like it when I can ask the person a question who leaves a response..
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 29, 2012, 09:49:00 PM
get some 125 grn field points and tune the arrows with them on and then you can shoot Woodsman or snuffers of the same weight,both are tried and true heads.Or Zwickey heads as well.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: JamesKerr on January 29, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
X 2 on the Woodsmans! I would recommend using a heavier point if possible but if your tuning won't allow a heavier point I would use the 100 grain Magnus Stinger or a 100 grain Woodsman Elite.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: Night Wing on January 29, 2012, 11:23:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by rluttrell:
I am shooing bemans 400 MFX classic with a 100 grain tip. they are 31" My bow shots 54# with my 31 inch draw.
Note of caution.

If your arrows are cut 31" BOP (back of point) and your draw length is 31", you better be mindful of the back of a razor sharp broadhead's blades cutting your knuckles on your hand holding the bow at full draw if you're going to shoot off the shelf.

Your knuckles will probably stick out in front of the shelf by 1/2".
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: Austin on January 29, 2012, 11:39:00 PM
My guess is you could add a ton of weight up front without being underspined.  Definitely try some 125 gr. field points. There are a ton of good 125 gr. heads, I prefer two blade heads personally.  I like the sound of those grizzlies!!! Zwickeys are great, magnus stingers are really great too an they don't require sharpening/ shoot true every time.
Austin
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: Izzy on January 30, 2012, 07:59:00 AM
With your setup you would do well to move up to 150, 145 grain points and give yourself a whole lotta options. Tough finding 100 grain cut on contact.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 30, 2012, 08:31:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Night Wing:
   
QuoteOriginally posted by rluttrell:
I am shooing bemans 400 MFX classic with a 100 grain tip. they are 31" My bow shots 54# with my 31 inch draw.
Note of caution.

If your arrows are cut 31" BOP (back of point) and your draw length is 31", you better be mindful of the back of a razor sharp broadhead's blades cutting your knuckles on your hand holding the bow at full draw if you're going to shoot off the shelf.

Your knuckles will probably stick out in front of the shelf by 1/2". [/b]
As Night wing stated be careful, if you use a fixed blade one piece head you can file the tips of the rear part of the blade so it doesn't cut your knuckle. And it makes them easier to get out of a back quiver as well
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: Uncle Buck on January 30, 2012, 08:53:00 AM
If you are married to a 100 grain point Razorcaps would be a good choice. you can also adjust the weight on them if you decide to go up later.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: Bill Carlsen on January 30, 2012, 09:32:00 AM
What Uncle Buck said. The same company (New Archery Products) also makes a solid one piece three blade head called the "Hellrazor" that comes in 100 grain weight.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: awbowman on January 30, 2012, 09:46:00 AM
Just get a sharp one
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: rluttrell on January 30, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
QuoteI am shooing bemans 400 MFX classic with a 100 grain tip. they are 31" My bow shots 54# with my 31 inch draw  
OK Good Catch
there is about a half inch of arrow hanging over the edge, so draw is 30 1/2
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: gringol on January 30, 2012, 06:46:00 PM
To echo some others, a heavier point will probably be better for you.  Arrow penetration with trad gear is more about mass than speed.  A heavier arrow can also make your bow quieter.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: chanumpa on January 30, 2012, 10:37:00 PM
Get some woodsmans.Great flight,massive bloodtrail,tons of how to stuff on here on sharpening,etc.They will do agreat job for you.Dont screw around with 100 grainers though.You want a heavy,hard hit with trad gear.Experiment and dont be afraid to load them up like a led glove.9 times out of 10 its a good thing.Feel free to ask questions on here and check out all the how tos.You got the best of the best here that go out of their waty to help.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: Fletcher on January 30, 2012, 11:47:00 PM
The broadhead is probably the single most important part of your setup.  As Biggie put it, "it's the part that does the killing".  Don't let the tail wag the dog; make your choice of broadhead decide the arrow, not the other way around.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: MikeW on January 31, 2012, 12:21:00 AM
In my experience you should be way over spined with that setup but you didn't mention what your insert weight was though. Anyways for hogs and deer my favorite's for the $$$ are WW's, VPA's and STOS. You can't go wrong with any of them.

Edit: On a side note Zwickey & ACE broadheads have been killing animals for longer than most of us have been alive. Get it sharp,put it where it belongs & you will bring home the meat.
  ;)
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: BradLantz on January 31, 2012, 12:29:00 AM
I am an absolute believe in big heavy single bevel broadheads. My choice right now is a Steel Force 225 gr

I killed my buck this year with Zwickey Delta's - but next year I'll be using the Steel force again
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: Encino Man on January 31, 2012, 12:55:00 AM
How much do your arrows weigh? With carbon, it's really easy to have a combination that's to light and can damage your bow. And it sounds like you're real light.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: Breakfast Boy on January 31, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
I'm going to echo what everyone else says about going a bit heavier with the head for your set up.  Might be worth a search to find the Stu Miller calculator and see if you can get a good starting point with a heavier head.

I'm biased because I work with VPA, but definitely take a look at the VPA heads.  Tough and super easy to sharpen, they'll do the job nicely and I think you would be super impressed with them.

While up at K-Zoo I heard a lot of guys saying how the Grizzly heads are looking better than ever and after looking at them I would agree, so they're worth a look too.  I think Bill is doing some good work with 'em.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on January 31, 2012, 04:59:00 PM
If your arrows are properly tuned with 100-grain heads, your arrows are heavy enough to not damage your bow, and you like them, Bill suggested two excellent broadheads. If you double check your tuning and find you need a heavier head, there are tons of possibilities out there.
Title: Re: Brodhead choice help
Post by: BrushWolf on January 31, 2012, 09:21:00 PM
I currently shoot a 54# with 29" draw.Arrows are mfx 340s should have got 400s.I had to use 125gr steel adapters to get good flight. I got 3 whitetails this year with 4-blade zwickey deltas.Two of the three were complete passthrus.They will be my go to head for the future. I have also used stos and zwicky 4- blade eskimos with good results. Hope this helps.