Two Footed and two non Footed Arrows Two footed and two non footed arrows where shot from 10 yards against a solid concrete slab
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaiCiL2Jg04
Arrows used for Test shooting
Gold Tip 5575 and Beman MFX Classic 400
Gold Tip 5575 - Footed with 1 and 1/2 inch 2219 Alu Shaft
Beman MFX 400 - Footed with 1 and 1/2 inch 2018 Alu Shaft
Length of all Arrows used - 30" with a 175 gr Field Tip
All arrows where shot from the same bow.
TD Recurve Bow - Amo 58 and 61 lbs at 29
average Arrow Speed - 185 fps
Tab shooting 3 under
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Footing Chart for Carbon Arrows
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Gold Tip Traditional
3555 - 2117
5575 - 2219
7595 - 2216
Big Game 100+-2216
Gold Tip XT Hunter
7595 - 2219
Beman MFX Classics
600 = 1916
500 - 2020
400 - 2018
340 - 2016
Carbon Express Heritage
90 - 2115
150 - 2216
250 - 2216
350 - 2215
Carbon Express Terminators
4560 - 2216
5060 - 2216
6075 - 2216
Carbon Express Maxima Blue Streak
150 - 2015
250 - 2115
350 - 2114
Beman ICS Bowhunters
400 - 2114
300 - 2219
ST Epic
600 - 2016
ST Excell
500 - 2016
Axis ST
500 - 1918
400 - 1916
340 - 2020/2018
300 - 2016
Arrow Dynamic
Lite - 2413
Reg - 2413
Another great video Daniel. It's interesting to note the true amount of energy transferred to the "target" when the arrow holds together.
Pretty cool. You can sure see the difference in how block reacts to each arrow.
Great video! Thanks for posting.
Ive never shot at a Concrete block surposedly but the vid shows my experience with footing arrows, they get darn tough :thumbsup:
Well, most arrows not servicable to me are the ones I lose but if you shoot carbons stumping like I do, yon know sometimes that odd color or limb out there at 30-40 yards turns out to be a rock, and sometimes the rocks hide under the leaves. So each year I probably lose 10-12 due to busting. Now I will not. Thanks and God Bless
Very interestingi sure do enjoy your videos.well done
The loss of energy on the non- footed arrows is significant. Very interesting video!
Jason
Professional quality videos, stump arrow building, and stumpin'.
Thanks for the post and lesson! :)
Cool vid! I think I'm going to track down some 2216's. :thumbsup:
Goes to show the durability of a footed carbon arrow. Thanks for putting together this video, Daniel.
Cheers, Matt
Excellent video. I have been shooting footed carbons for over a year now and am a firm believer in footing.
Thanks so much for sharing the video Daniel.
Jack >>>---~~---------->>
Great information. A picture is really worth a thousand words.
I went stumpin' this morning and shattered a 3555 GT Trad tip. I took it home and cut off the bad part and, even though a bit short, I have a hard core stumper now after footing with a 2117 tube.
Shoulda' done it BEFORE going. :banghead:
Great test video. But I think the Memories of a wonderful day video is the best I have seen yet. Congrats on both
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Your videos are top notch, thanks for taking the time.
excellent video and test.Better hunt patio block with footed shafts! :D
Great video. Ever do a test like this footing aluminum shafts?
I am curious as to how much additional weight the footing added?
QuoteOriginally posted by eflanders:
I am curious as to how much additional weight the footing added?
Looks like he was using about 1.5" of 2018 to foot the Beman 400. My guess is 20 grains or so...i'm basing that off the arrows i just footed with 1.5" of 2020
Very interesting. Nothing like good ole concrete. Bue--.
Excellent vid & test Dan. Thanks. Interested in similar test w/woodies. Not me, I'm too cheap.
The proof is in the pudding! Great video!
I have footed my stumping arrows for a few years now and what a difference, as the great video shows they are bullet proof. What did you use for gluing the inserts in ? I use hot melt so I can tune BH's easier and if I hit a rock or other HARD object I get the same result shown in your video, I just heat them up and reglue and I'm ready to go.
Thanks for the great video, very well done !!
So would using a full metal jacket be the ultimate?
Nice video and helpful.
I wonder how the carbon collars would hold up?
QuoteOriginally posted by Chad Orde:
So would using a full metal jacket be the ultimate?
I've done a lot of the same testing with concrete and have done a lot of broadheads also. I shoot fmj on most of my bows and footing them makes them very tuff, but I have bent the shaft behind the footing with angled shots. I don't think you will ever hurt one on a animal otherwise I wouldn't keep using them. On a straight on shoot like in the video they just blow the nock off
Out of the broadheads I did the best ones to take the damage where
1. 300 xtreme.
2. 300 grain VPA Penatrator both these heads had the tip blunted but did not bend
3. And 4. 225 grain tuffhead 160 grain standard size grizzly both had slight tip bends
Other head that did well was the 165 grain glue on Simmons safari.
I realize we don't hunt concrete but it was a fun test for me to do. And see how much difference some heads did, even some of the same model but lighter grains.
If you put the footing to the end of the inserts and not just the shaft it may very well of not even popped the insert. Great video! Shawn
A 2117 and 2116 are 12 grains per inch( I use 2 inches 24 grns)
2018 12.3
2016 10.6
1916 10
2013 9
2114 9.9
The amount of energy lost without footing is amazing. There is some real difference there. Imagine hitting a deer in the shoulder and getting 1 inch of penetration on the ball and socket and then that little bit of extra energy possibly punching thru into the chest cavity. Something to think about. I am about to do all of mine!
interesting
Makes me want to foot some woodies for squirrels.
Pretty amazing video. I've seen a similar video performed with hard wood shafts on forrester.com website
awesome
Very informative! I will be footing my arrows from now on
great video! You really put some great stuff together Man!
Great demo Daniel!
If I made arrows I think I'd foot them based on what I've seen here.
God bless,Mudd
PS: I HATE building arrows...lol