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Title: 3 blade or?
Post by: el greco on January 26, 2012, 11:56:00 PM
All my broadheads are 2 blade as I read they have better penetration than 4 blade.What about the three blade?Is there a difference in terms of flight and penetration with the 2blade?Thanks and excuse any grammar and spelling mistakes.
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: rastaman on January 27, 2012, 12:45:00 AM
No...   :)   I shoot 2, 3, and 4 blades. Sometimes I have them all in my quiver at the same time. Just make sure whatever you use is scary sharp and tuned to your setup and penetration will not be an issue.   :wavey:
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 27, 2012, 08:27:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by rastaman:
No...    :)    I shoot 2, 3, and 4 blades. Sometimes I have them all in my quiver at the same time. Just make sure whatever you use is scary sharp and tuned to your setup and penetration will not be an issue.    :wavey:  
X2 and I like the Zwickey 4blade
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: Bill Carlsen on January 27, 2012, 09:31:00 AM
Ever since the Woodsman came on the scene I have had no problems with 3 blade heads. When hunting from tree stands I had some difficulty with the big  Snuffers. Now I shoot Razorcaps which are very similar to Woodsman heads and have had no issues with penetration. My wife shoots them as well with her 45# @ 26" recurve and always gets two holes. I just got a pack of Phoenix heads from Stan at Redfeather and will give them a go this Spring on Turkeys and perhaps on bear this Fall. I should also add that I prefer to use heavy heads so Laura and I both shoot our hunting arrows with 200-250 grains up front. I know that it has really helped us with penetration.
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: Smithhammer on January 27, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
Recently picked up some 175 gr. VPA Terminators, and while I haven't used them on a hunt yet, they are seriously impressive and I've seen how effective they are. Built to go through a brick wall, too. I'll use them for everything from turkey to elk.

I understand the thinking behind a 2-blade creating less resistance, etc. but a sharp, 3:1 3-blade with a reinforced tip is devastating.
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: Zradix on January 27, 2012, 10:00:00 AM
Depends on your arrow weight, arrow speed ( ie momentum) and what game you're trying to put down.

What ever head you use learn how to get it SHARP.

A tuned arrow is a tuned arrow and it won't matter if it's 2, 3, 4, blades....just get it flying well.

A 2 blade with the same dia/width as a multiblade will penetrate easier...you're cutting less so using less energy.

....but it doesn't do any good to have your arrow sticking 5" in the ground after going through the animal.

with average equipment .... 50# or so, 28" or so draw, 10grains/# arrow or there abouts you could use a BIG 2 blade or the average size 4 or 3 blade on deer with no worries maybe even the Big Jim 3 at the right range.

Taking that setup for big game...might want to think about a heavy built 2 blade....especially if you're on the lower end of the above example.

What are you shooting now?
That info will help others help you answer your question fully.

Enjoy the ride!
     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: Ray Lyon on January 27, 2012, 10:50:00 AM
Knowing your setup as mentioned by Zradix will help fine tune suggestions. Any sharp broadhead in the right spot is going to do the job your ultimately looking for it to do.

I've used 2, 3 and 4 blade heads over the past 35 years from traditional bows. Of all of them, I've liked the 3 blade heads (Kustom King Trailmaker) of late as my go to head.  I'm shooting a 47# Super Shrew longbow at 29 inches, so you don't need a super heavy bow. I have found that, on average, the 3 blade head gives a much better blood trail than the two blade head.

For deer or black bear, unless you're using a super lightweight set-up, I feel you can use any style of head you wish.  Just make sure it's super sharp and placed where it should be.
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: RkyMtn Joe on January 27, 2012, 11:49:00 AM
As a rule, I shoot  4 blades, but if I had to choose between a 2 or a 3 blade, I would go with a Snuffer or Wensel head.  If I could only pick a 2-blade head, I'd go for a Simmons head--I sort of like the Land Shark.
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: BOHO on January 27, 2012, 11:57:00 AM
I agree with Joe. I shot a lot of deer with a 2 blade and never got enough blood to spit at. I guess if you hunt open woods its still easy to find the deer but if you hunt where its thick you better have some blood to follow. Cut a hole, not a slit.
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: 68_super_k on January 27, 2012, 12:06:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BOHO:
I agree with Joe. I shot a lot of deer with a 2 blade and never got enough blood to spit at. I guess if you hunt open woods its still easy to find the deer but if you hunt where its thick you better have some blood to follow. Cut a hole, not a slit.
Just out of curiosity were they single or double bevel?
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: JamesKerr on January 27, 2012, 12:22:00 PM
I use a 175 grain VPA terminator out of a 55 pound bow and believe me this setup will kill anything short of truly large dangerous game (cape buffalo, elephant, etc.)
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: Rob W. on January 27, 2012, 07:05:00 PM
175gr. VPA's this year for me. I have shot 2,3, and 4 bld heads. 2 bld heads didn't do it for me as far a blood on the ground. I love big delta's with bleeders but the VPA seems like the best of both worlds.


Rob
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: Bill Carlsen on January 27, 2012, 07:09:00 PM
Speaking of 3 blade blood trails this is from last Fall's doe.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/Bloodtrail1.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: SuperK on January 27, 2012, 10:09:00 PM
I agree with most of the posts above...I get more blood on the ground with the 3 blade (Woodsman broadheads) than any 2 blade (single and double bevel).  Even though I'm only shooting around 46-47 lbs. at by draw length, I still get 2 holes in my deer.
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: el greco on January 27, 2012, 11:05:00 PM
Well thank you all.My to go bow will be a 50#firedrake,29 inches goldtip trad.arrows.Unfortunately I have all ready bought 2 blades(160gr zwickey).I never thought about the blood trail.I ll try some of the mentioned above.Thanks again.
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: rastaman on January 27, 2012, 11:08:00 PM
Some of the best blood trails I've ever had were with 2 blade silverflames..what you've got is fine!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: Gen273 on January 28, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
I have shot 2, 3, and 4 blade heads. They all work, just get then sharp. for me, a 3 blade is the easiest to sharpen. I prefer a Woodsman elite or a VPA.

But just choose whatever you like and can sharpen the best.  Good Luck!!!
Title: Re: 3 blade or?
Post by: 3arrows on January 28, 2012, 04:21:00 PM
el greco don't worry about those zwickeys they were killing things long before all others mentioned above.They lasted so long because they work.