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Title: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: 68_super_k on January 26, 2012, 12:13:00 PM
Hey guys I'm a newbie to this site.  Quick question... has anyone found a good way to keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?  I can't seem to keep them in.  The only solution I've found is to keep a drywall screw and some spare nocks with me.  I tried wrapping a serve around the top of the shaft at the nock and using epoxy over the serve but that just made the nock snap and stay flush with the shaft...Any suggestions???
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 26, 2012, 12:21:00 PM
Are they completely popping out on impact of the shaft? or are they breaking from hitting trees,and limbs? or are they getting stuck on the string and breaking upon release? are they to tight on the string?
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: buckster on January 26, 2012, 12:23:00 PM
Foot them with an inch of aluminum shafting held up place with JB weld, you will have some really tough arrows & less breakage.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 26, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
If you use a 22 cal bore brush and clean the inside of the shaft(at the nock end) and mark the shaft with a pencil to align the nock, you could as a last resort use a little CYA or epoxy to hold them in.
 I know Easton makes nocks with a longer insert part.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: don_h on January 26, 2012, 12:30:00 PM
Aluminum footing works as posted above. Gorilla glue works well for attaching footing also.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: Bowsey Wails on January 26, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
QUESTION: You are footing the nock end of the arrow?
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: mcgroundstalker on January 26, 2012, 12:45:00 PM
Carbon Shafting is cool but weak on both ends... Some fellas (like me) foot both front and back with about one inch aluminum for stumping and small game arrows... Sometimes an arrow wrap is enough to hold it in place... Most of the time J.B. Weld works good...

As for nocks popin' out...    :scared:    That would not be a safe thing. Remember to flex and check your carbon arrow after each shot! Just pick the soft rocks.    :rolleyes:  

Best Of Luck!

... mike ...
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: Trumpkin the Dwarf on January 26, 2012, 12:49:00 PM
I want my nocks to pop out if the blow is big...that keeps the shaft intact. I never glue the nocks in, I just carry extras with me. You could always shoot softer stumps though...
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: Bowsey Wails on January 26, 2012, 12:50:00 PM
Thanks for sharing that, Mike. I had no idea.
Tim
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: tarponnut on January 26, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
The Gold Tip nocks are longer but do pop out once in awhile(especially if I have weight tubes in them)I use a drop of Super Glue.
I shot at a squirrele once and the nock shot back(I hit the tree) and almost took my eye out, I even have it on video. I've been gluing them in ever since.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: huntmaster70 on January 26, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
try plastic kitchen wrap over the end of the nock before you push in then trim excess.It makes them tighter & helps with "blowouts" but will still allow them to come out when needed.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: on January 26, 2012, 01:23:00 PM
Always carry some extras. A little clear nail polish or thin glue on the nock will keep them in place for all except the hardest hits.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: Bill Carlsen on January 26, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
If you are using weight tubes your only recourse is gluing them. I rarely have this problem with the Beman MFX or Axis shafts. The nocks on those babies are pretty tight.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: Pat B on January 26, 2012, 01:52:00 PM
Use wood with self nocks! d;^)
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: onewhohasfun on January 26, 2012, 02:12:00 PM
After a nock blowout inspect your shaft there. It may have a hairline crack. That's why we foot both ends. I just use a 3/8" long footing on the nock end.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: rraming on January 26, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
I know how you can keep the nocks in - miss the stump  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: FerretWYO on January 26, 2012, 03:54:00 PM
Teflon tape works pretty good for me.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: Jeff Strubberg on January 26, 2012, 04:05:00 PM
Just glue the nock in and be done with it.

I use Goat Tuff, but any of the cysnocrylate glues will get the job done.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: 68_super_k on January 26, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
thanks guys.  My shafts aren't cracked at all so that's not my problem.  I'll probably just go for some glue and see what happens.  I appreciate all the great tips.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: AWPForester on January 26, 2012, 05:34:00 PM
If you glue the nocks they are going to break and leave the insert part stuck in the arrow.  I know because I got fed up and let common sense lose to stupid, and did it.  Had to cut them after breaking them all off in there.

I like plumber's tape around the nock insert and push it in.  What is causing it is the nock is getting launched back out of the end when hard contact is made.  Make it tighter and problem is fixed. God Bless
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: Bud B. on January 26, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
Maybe switch to Bohning Signature nocks? I have and none have broken so far.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: reddogge on January 26, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
GT nocks are notorious for popping out or breaking off flush with the shaft. If you are using GT nocks contact them and they will replace them with ones made of better material. Glueing in will not stop them from breaking off flush with the end. You are doing the best thing for now, carry a screw and extra nocks.
Title: Re: how can I keep nocks from blowing out of carbon shafts when stumping?
Post by: 68_super_k on January 27, 2012, 11:50:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by AWPForester:
If you glue the nocks they are going to break and leave the insert part stuck in the arrow.  I know because I got fed up and let common sense lose to stupid, and did it.  Had to cut them after breaking them all off in there.

I like plumber's tape around the nock insert and push it in.  What is causing it is the nock is getting launched back out of the end when hard contact is made.  Make it tighter and problem is fixed. God Bless
I had read a similar tip earlier in the thread.  Thanks to both!  I'll try it out and see what happens.