Ok guys, I know this information is SOMEWHERE on here(or nonexistent), I just can't find it. Does anyone know of an arrow manufacturer making carbons in a .250 spine that are less than 9.5 gpi? Oh, they have to be 32 inches long as well. I was just thinking of nice that would be for us shooters that are pushing 60+ lbs at our draw weight. you could really load up the tip section without getting an arrow that weighed 1000 grains. Feel free to tell me I'm crazy, I just was dreaming up some elk skewering arrows.
I would be interested in them as well.
The only ones i know wich come close would be the GoldTip Big Games. Spine 0.280"; 10,5 gpi;
Saumensch, I saw that the other day. I was hoping for something in the 7-9gpi if at all possible. Maybe I am just greedy but I think 400-450 grains of point weight on something like that would fly about right out of my Toelke. I draw 31 inches so I cannot just cut away at arrows.
what about gold tip 7595's?
I am using those at the moment but I was looking for something a lot lighter(7-9gpi) rather than 11.3 gpi. I also wanted something stiffer than .300
well I'll see what I can find for ya. I know I saw a chart somewhere with all the carbons made on it. Now can I just find it. Did you try googling what your looking for? I'll keep an eye out and post back if I find it.
Don't think you could shoot a 250 with a 65 lb bow even with 400 up front but it might be close.
The extra weight won't break down the spine that much. I have shot arrows with as much as 100g difference for frontal weight and they showed no sign of spine change. Now this certainly is not always the case, but arrow length will always have a greater impact on spine. I am shooting a full length .200 spine with 400g up front and believe I could back off to a .250.
This is drawn to 30.5" out of a 82 lb bow at my draw.
good luck, bigjim
Big Jim, thanks for the response. If I heard you right I could potentially increase my point weight on my arrows without a significant weakening of the spine? :dunno:
I want an arrow which is lighter than my GT 7595 blems because I am greedy and want a higher FOC without adding too much weight. I did see a big difference in spine with a change of 100 grains when I originally set up my hunting arrows(already have 350 grains up front)...I may have to do some tinkering.
what about these.
http://eastonarchery.com/arrows/a-c-c-target/0/2
Thanks BOHO. They go down to 9.9 gpi at .300 spine deflection(better than my GT's by a bit). The net loss in weight for me is about 40 grains at 32 inches...not a huge change but every little bit helps when dealing with high FOC
Just saw some Vapor Jets by Blackhawk, .300 spine 7.2 grains but onlt 31" long
Take a look at AD Nitro's,they come in stiff spines like .250 and .200 with a lower GPI then some other carbons.You might look at the green label and gold label Nitro's.
Thanks JRY I will check them out now!
Not .250 spine,but Victory V force .300 shafts are 6.9 gpi>
trumpkin.......Alaska Bowhunting Supply NEW Momentum 65 80 is .250 deflection. My Momentum 65/80 shafts BOP 30" weighs 415 grain with No point.
You can always do what I do and put in a internial footing inside the shaft behind the point to make an artificially stiff shaft.
I have afew of the ol' style Beman "pultruded" shafts. I cut sections of these and glue them inside the shaft behind the insert. This allows me to shoot super heavy points for UEFOC arrows.
One word of caution. Most of the shafts you will find that are under 9GPI will not make the spine marked on them. I found this out with the Victory shafts. They are marked .300, but the highest spine/deflection I have gotten so far out of three dozen has been .320 and that was only on about 10 of the 36.
Troy
You could always consider building out your strike plate. This will allow you to increase point weight with the same shafts. Love those high foc arrows!
Matt
Matt is correct. I had forgot to memtion that. If you are trying to work up a high FOC arrow, building out the side plate will allow you to shoot much lighter spine shafts. I had to build out my side plate to 1/8" before center.
Troy
Thanks everyone for the suggestions! It sounds like I will have to just play around with my set up. I was hoping for a magic arrow but I will just play around with the side plate and other such tactics...
Some guys (ie: Paul Schafer) would use a combination of aluminum arrows with one fitting inside the other to accomodate the heavy draw weights. Don't know if something like that would work for the spine and gpi you're shooting for, but thought I'd throw it out there.
Some guys (ie: Paul Schafer) would use a combination of aluminum arrows with one fitting inside the other to accomodate the heavy draw weights. Don't know if something like that would work for the spine and gpi you're shooting for, but thought I'd throw it out there.
I would recommend the new momentum shafts by Alaska bow hunting as well.
Goldtip UltralightXcutter
http://goldtip.com/productdetail.aspx?ptid=14