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Title: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: BigJim on January 20, 2012, 11:03:00 PM
I am looking to foot some shafts that have an OD of .281 (Gold Tip Kinetic .200)

I have a very limited supply of aluminum shafts laying around to test. Of what I have, the 2117's proves to be a close fit, but wondering if there is a size that would be slightly tighter.
Is it preferably to have a slight amount of space for glue room?

thanks, bigjim
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: RUTANDSTRUT on January 20, 2012, 11:49:00 PM
try a 2016.  its inside diameter should be .2805  would be a real tight fit.
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: JimB on January 21, 2012, 01:03:00 AM
2016 won't fit.Your 2117 should be app .294 ID.The closest I know is 2013.I was able to get them on a .284 shaft but they were very tight.I'm sure they'd work.They are thinner walled than some but have held up well through several months of shooting.They would be the closest.

You don't need much space for glue,very little.If you used Gorilla glue,you could use the 2117.It would expand to fill the gap.Thicker wall too.
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: ishoot4thrills on January 21, 2012, 06:10:00 AM
Gorilla Glue works great for gluing footings. It does fill in the gaps very well, as was stated.
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: oldskool on January 21, 2012, 07:06:00 AM
go to the how to section, there is a footing size chart there that we made up a few years ago
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: BigJim on January 21, 2012, 07:30:00 AM
Thanks guys, just need to come up with some aluminum that doesn't have beer in it  :)

Oldskool, that chart doesn't list aluminum ID's just sizes to fit common carbon. Unfortunately, my shafts aren't common size.

bigjim
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: bamboo on January 21, 2012, 08:05:00 AM
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: Rob W. on January 21, 2012, 08:13:00 AM
If you need more 2117 I have a bunch in black you can have.


Rob
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: oldskool on January 21, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
Big Jim, when you find out what size you need let the mod know so he can add it to the list
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: psychmonky on January 21, 2012, 08:59:00 AM
Jim, if you can't find a tighter fit, would it work to wrap the area to be footed with aluminum foil first? That way you could adjust the thickness to what you need. Just an idea.

Scott
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: JimB on January 21, 2012, 02:21:00 PM
After thinking about it,and the weights you shoot,I would go with the 2117 and Gorilla glue over the 2013's because of wall thickness.
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: BigJim on January 21, 2012, 11:58:00 PM
I don't think that wall thickness would make a difference. All, I need is something to keep the insert from coming out sideways. These arrows are really tough, but I am using the hidden brass insert to increase weight up front and they tend to break sidewase when they brake. Just a little help would be all that was necessary.
thanks, bigjim
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: iohkus on January 22, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
BigJim, 2013's have an inside diameter of .2865
and 2016's are .2805, closest I have on my chart.
Title: Re: what size aluminum for footing?
Post by: tradtusker on January 22, 2012, 04:37:00 AM
Big Jim
I have footed the Kenetic 300's but have not found a shaft that foots the .200 exactly.
The best Find is a brass tube from the hardware store. That fits exact on the .200 but is a bit thicker wall then the alu shafts but works great.

The Fit must be tight, I do not like to have any play at all!. I use 24 hour epoxy for my footings.

We have experimented with loads of arrows as my buddys and I foot all our arrows, have done for years. Especially with the HIT as you described, the new Goldtip inserts are very weak! So i also use the HIT inserts.

if you have to build up to make up room for a slightly loose footing the best thing to use is masking tape, rolled on tight. but it a bit finicky to get right.