My lovely wife ordered me some new arrows as a Christmas gift, my first set of traditional arrows. She had apparently seen how I was looking at the Easton Legacy arrows and ordered me a dozen!!! When they arrived at my house, I immediately put an insert and nock on, and went to go shoot bare shaft to see how they shot. Turns out, she had accidentally ordered 2117's rather than 2016's. I shoot a 50# Hawkeye recurve by Indian archery. The arrow kicked really bad out to the right. It is spined way too heavily. I emailed the company, hoping to be able to return the arrows and get the correct spine. I am not sure what I am going to do if ********* Archery doesn't accept the return, please pray that they will kindly take the return so that I can start to work on my accuracy with correctly spined arrows
Put them up for sale or trade in the classifides. 2117's are pretty popular if they aren't cut too short. :thumbsup:
BTW how long are they?? ;) :D
Sorry to hear. Good luck!
Relax- post your draw length. Did you cut them? What length? Tip weight? You have not been Married very long because wives do not make mistakes, you should know that! No reason to sell or return anything, as odd as it sounds now, you will use them sometime :biglaugh: ?
They are 32". haha and no I haven't, we just got married this past October 1st, little over 3 months and going strong! Both of our grandparents have been married over 50 years so we have some good role models to look up to
Use heavy tips.
And yes, they'll sell in the classifieds.
Load up the front of them 2117 until they fly right. Good luck
I shot 2117s with a 125 gr head from a Wes Wallace Partner TD recurve with 46# limbs and also from my 56# limbs from that bow and they shot fine. Although by comparative modern standards they look a little fat, the 2117 is still a great spine. Just load them up on the front end and watch your brace height.
Is there anything I can do besides increasing point weight up front? The arrow was in fletched and I know that makes a difference as well
Not fletched*
Bro, I got 6 full length ggii 500's (2016) un fletched never shot with inserts and nocks I will trade you for 6 of those 2117's. If they are legacies they are more expensive than mine, but I currently do not need the 2117. Just trying to do you a favor.
And there isn't anything you are going to be able to do other than leave them real long and load up the tip. They are a great shaft, ecspecially for trad bows, you just got to be shooting a good deal of weight and drawing them aways before you can use them. God Bless
Leaving them long is about the only other way. What is your draw length?
2117 is pretty close for a 50# recurve if you shot them cut at 30 inches long. ;)
I learned that sometimes an arrow will act as if it were overspined when in fact it was underspined. Maybe the full length shaft is too weak and acted like it was too stiff? Try cutting 2 inches off one of those and see what happens?
Thank your wife for the lovely gift and just tuck them away in your closet. The thought behind the gift is more memorable than the gift itself. You are luck to have a wife who respects your interest and buys you archery things.
October the 1st? That day must have been her idea..lol
I got married on April the 3rd so it wouldn't interfere with my hunting, worked great for a few years till we decided to move to NZ. Now our anniversary falls bang on with the Red deer roar.
Congratulations and i wish you many happy years together!
Sounds like a reason to get another bow that you can use those arrows with.
QuoteOriginally posted by Brently:
Sounds like a reason to get another bow that you can use those arrows with.
LOL....Now there is a man who's thinking.
It would be no problem to add some point weight and get those dialed in for your bow.3Rivers sell a 100 gr brass insert for that size shaft and it would probably get you close.
Does the brass insert screw into the insert I already have in there?
I've found if the point is RIGHT and the Nock is LEFT it's underspined. Cutting some off will stiffen the spine. IMO. ;)
Will brass inserts actually fit a 2117? I've used them for carbons, but not aluminum shafts.
If so, you will need to remove the original insert and replace it with the brass one.
We do not know.
We do not know your draw length and the actual poundage you are pulling.
We do not know if you are right or left handed.
We do not know what weight your points are.
But we sure as heck have opinions!!
Killdeer :biglaugh:
You are way over spined no matter whether you are right or left handed (unless you have a really long draw length). Sell them and get the 2016's.
After 30 years of marriage she just says "Pick something out of your archery catalog for Xmas and I will get something I want at Kolhs and that will be our Xmas shopping for each other." Not romantic, but you get the right arrow shafts. Enjoy the romance while it lasts
What is your draw length ?, I have some 2016's you can have.
Add tip weight =) Dont tell her.
I'm shooting 50 lbs @ 28.-28.5 right handed, shooting 125 grain tips and judos, 160 grain screw in Zwockey Delta's or Eskimo's, not sure which on ill go with yet but I love the look of the Zwickey broadheads, just screams traditional to me :) still hunting with my wheel bow, not quite ready to hunt with the recurve, but ill b damned if I won't be by Spring turkey :)
QuoteOriginally posted by landman:
I shot 2117s with a 125 gr head from a Wes Wallace Partner TD recurve with 46# limbs and also from my 56# limbs from that bow and they shot fine. Although by comparative modern standards they look a little fat, the 2117 is still a great spine. Just load them up on the front end and watch your brace height.
I've shot them out of my 45# Samick Sage recurve, 30" long with 145 points, and they seem to shoot fine as well. Can't really tell a difference between them and the 2016s, but my shooting skills are still kind of new, though.
Iowa, I just got to measure them and unfortunately they are 27 1/2", I haven't used them in a long time and didn't remember their length. I am sorry for getting you hopes up.
NJ-no worries! I do appreciate you looking for me
Wrap them up and give them back to her next christmas.
QuoteOriginally posted by MCS:
Wrap them up and give them back to her next christmas.
Hmm, you must be fairly youn. You may not see many more Christmas like that, lol. :biglaugh:
QuoteOriginally posted by Shifting Shadow:
Thank your wife for the lovely gift and just tuck them away in your closet. The thought behind the gift is more memorable than the gift itself. You are luck to have a wife who respects your interest and buys you archery things.
Words of wisdom right there.
Sell them and get the right spined shafts. They'll look the same, just with a different number. How will your wife know the difference? Did you tell her to order the right shaft size or did she go to the dealer and asked him for a guess?
Having the wrong shafts is like going shotgunning with a 20gauge using 12 gauge shells :-))
I got a great idea...Tell her "Thanks, honey! It means the world to me that you would think enough of me to buy these arrows!" and then explain to her gently why they won't work and why you are going to sell or trade them to get the right ones.
You can do that, or you can find a place to put them that is big enough to put the ones she is going to get you for your birthday too... :D
I called the customer service dept, they agreed to let me send in the 11 arrows (i had put a nock and insert in one) and they would send me the correct spine! She was really cool about it, I had mentioned possibly getting a heavier poundage bow to shoot the heavier arrows, that one didn't work as well haha! She agreed to let me use the extra cash I save after I quit smoking these damn cigarettes to buy "anymore Bowhunting stuff your heart desires" lol
The company that sent them to me agreed to have me send back the 11 arrows, nocks, and inserts and they will refund the purchase, after that is done (already sent them back, out about 11 bucks for shipping, plus whatever the shipping back to me is) I will have my very own set of traditional arrows! In the meantime I have 1 arrow that is over spined, going to try and make a flu flu out of it for fun! I am using my grandfathers Hawkeye recurve, recently bought a great northern bow quiver, will get some pics up after I receive the arrows and get them all done up!