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Title: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: rmorris on January 08, 2012, 11:59:00 PM
I have very little experience with shooting Broadheads because only in the last year or so have felt confident enough with a longbow to take game without just injuring the animal. I just switched to wood arrows (if that matters) but my question is , is there a difference with the 2 blade broadheads in flight if you place them vertical or horizontal with the ground? I am thinking there should not be too much difference because then just canting your bow could mess with your shot... please tell me your experience.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Gentry on January 09, 2012, 12:06:00 AM
as long as your arrows are good and tuned to your bow it dont matter..... they will all shot the same.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: on January 09, 2012, 12:42:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gentry:
as long as your arrows are good and tuned to your bow it dont matter..... they will all shot the same.
Bingo....That being said, I like mine horizontal so the blade is not in my sight picture as much.

Bisch
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: 30coupe on January 09, 2012, 12:45:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Gentry:
as long as your arrows are good and tuned to your bow it dont matter..... they will all shot the same.
Bingo....That being said, I like mine horizontal so the blade is not in my sight picture as much.

Bisch [/b]
Me too. I tend to shoot high if I have them turned vertical. I don't know why. I would think it would be the other way around but it's not for me.
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Post by: Ground Hunter on January 09, 2012, 12:50:00 AM
The best way to know how broadheads shoot is to shoot them.  Keep shooting them - they will tell you.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 09, 2012, 12:52:00 AM
I like mine horizontal so I can't see them as much. Really don't matter if'n you got them babies tuned.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Bjorn on January 09, 2012, 01:00:00 AM
I don't think it matters; I generally place mine on a 45 or thereabouts just so it isn't either vertical or horizontal.
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Post by: TDHunter on January 09, 2012, 02:54:00 AM
Horizontal as well. i read somewhere once that it was the best way because of the archers paradox, and if you put them vertical then they catch more air as they wrap around the riser.  ..... works for me.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Thumper Dunker on January 09, 2012, 03:15:00 AM
However they end up after they are screwed on. On my woods its iether vertical or horizontal.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Rick Richard on January 09, 2012, 05:53:00 AM
I like mine about 45 degrees with the top turned into the riser.  With all that said, it does not matter if you have a well tuned arrow/bow combination.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Uncle Buck on January 09, 2012, 05:53:00 AM
if you have helical or angled fletching they are going to rotate in flight anyway. I teng to make mine vertical becauase it just looks right to me. It makes no real difference in my arrow flight.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Terry Lightle on January 09, 2012, 06:14:00 AM
Horizontal for me just because
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Post by: Night Wing on January 09, 2012, 06:31:00 AM
For a 2 blade broadhead, my preference is also horizontal.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Gray Buffalo on January 09, 2012, 06:32:00 AM
Horizontal for me just because

X2
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: misfire on January 09, 2012, 06:59:00 AM
Vertical cause it looks cool in pictures.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Hatrick on January 09, 2012, 07:44:00 AM
I shot mostly 2 blade Ribteks. Over the years I've found that by mounting them at about a 45 ( 1:30 - 7:30) they are out of my sight picture when I cant the bow.

As others have said, if the bow and arrows are tuned, and the broadheads are mounted and spin tested for alignment, position shouldn't really matter.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: bornagainbowhunter on January 09, 2012, 08:43:00 AM
How ever the end up when screwed on for carbons.  For wood, i just spin them hot to get them straight, and wherever I stop is where they stay.  Never had any problems.

God Bless,
Nathan
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 09, 2012, 09:00:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by misfire:
Vertical cause it looks cool in pictures.
x2
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Ric O'Shay on January 09, 2012, 10:28:00 AM
If they are horizontal, for me at least, the blade really bothers me and is a distraction. That said, I mount all my two blade heads about 1 o'clock to 7 o'clock. That way the bottom part of the blade is down out of my line of sight. But that just me. You have to try and see what works best for you.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: rmorris on January 09, 2012, 10:59:00 AM
Once again you all are awesome! Thanks for all the help. I am going build me a set of 6 broadhead arrows today and for the first set they will all be horizontal. I may do a little experimenting on my next with the 45deg offset. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Jeff Strubberg on January 09, 2012, 11:04:00 AM
The only difference is how they look to your eye at full draw.  Other than that, don't matter a hill o fbeans.

Pretty sure mine are all over the place.   ;)
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: lone hunter on January 09, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
For glue-on,where ever they end up when spin balanced. Every arrow is slightly different.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Tajue17 on January 09, 2012, 11:44:00 AM
doesn't matter but I personally like mine mounted at 10:30 because at the 10:30/4:30 position when I draw the bow and then cant the top of the bow to the side the broadhead disappears and I cannot see it .. it seems with field points or blunts I shoot perfectly fine but if I draw a broadhead back even if its just at a target I get a little shaky and I can only think its my brain warning me not to miss with this thinik on the front,, I do not gap shoot and I'm 100% instinctive but I don't want to see a big treeshark in my secondary visionm when I'm picking a spot.

most of my arrows are bareshaft tuned so anyt broadhead mounted any way they go on they all shoot fine.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: mmgrode on January 09, 2012, 12:56:00 PM
I mount mine at a 45 degree angle for two reasons:
- Keeps the broadhead out of the sight picture
- I use the back of the broadhead touching my drawing hand as a draw check/clicker of sorts...consistent draw length.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Bill Turner on January 09, 2012, 01:07:00 PM
I like to do them all the same. I prefer horizontal just because that is the way I started doing them in "69". Whatever you do, make sure you shoot them after mounting, then sharpen to hunt only if they fly straight. Good luck and shoot straight.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: JamesKerr on January 09, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by bornagainbowhunter:
How ever the end up when screwed on for carbons.  For wood, i just spin them hot to get them straight, and wherever I stop is where they stay.  Never had any problems.

God Bless,
Nathan
X 2
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: donw on January 09, 2012, 01:13:00 PM
makes no difference...just make sure they're mounted perfectly.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: oldskool on January 09, 2012, 01:20:00 PM
what Tajue17 said
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: German Dog on January 09, 2012, 01:24:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Gentry:
as long as your arrows are good and tuned to your bow it dont matter..... they will all shot the same.
Bingo....That being said, I like mine horizontal so the blade is not in my sight picture as much.

Bisch [/b]
See I like mine vertical so I don't notice mine in my sight picture.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Red Beastmaster on January 09, 2012, 01:38:00 PM
I've mounted mine horizontally for 20 years. This year I just screwed them in and had them in various positions. The flight was still the same but it just messed with my head! I couldn't stop looking at the broadhead instead of my target.

I switched them back to horizontal and all was right with the world again.  :)
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: mongoose on January 09, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
Either way for me, I just make sure that they are aligned with one of the feathers.  :campfire:    :coffee:
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: dragonheart on January 09, 2012, 02:53:00 PM
Vertical, I use the back of the BH as a draw check on the pointer finger.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Fletcher on January 09, 2012, 10:13:00 PM
Horizontal works best for me.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: meathead on January 09, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
Horizontal for me too.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: PICKNGRIN on January 09, 2012, 10:25:00 PM
I like em horizontal.
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Post by: smokin joe on January 09, 2012, 10:26:00 PM
Horizontal, so it is not in my line of sight.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: beyondmyken on January 10, 2012, 11:51:00 PM
Horizontal  for war, vertical for hunting so the BH can slip between the ribs.   :D
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: stykbender on January 11, 2012, 02:36:00 AM
2 blades and horizontal as I don't like the sharp blade coming back to my bow hand which is RIGHT below it. Also the broadhead will move if I overdraw the bow in the excitement of "the Big 'UN". My arrows are cut to my exact draw length.
Like your logic tho beyondmyken!
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: RkyMtn Joe on January 11, 2012, 11:11:00 AM
I mount my broadheads horizontally---just got in the habit of doing them that way many years ago and have never found any reason to change.  I certainly know that the arrow spins in flight and it doesn't matter which way you do them so long as they are straight and without wobble when you spin them.

I remember reading somewhere that Ishi seemed not to understand that an arrow rotates in flight, so he insisted that the point should be mounted vertically inorder to slip between the ribs of a deer.

Joe
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: DuffyRP on January 11, 2012, 04:09:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by beyondmyken:
Horizontal  for war, vertical for hunting so the BH can slip between the ribs.    :D  
How do keep them arrows from turning in flight.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: on January 11, 2012, 04:37:00 PM
I have had one set of arrows out of a Super Kodiak, tapered cedars with 160 grain Magnus two blades, do a side step when  shot in a tailing cross wind, with a vertically mounted head. The next arrow was horizontal and it was dead on.  After the shot, while I gave the deer sometime before tracking, I retrieved the wayward arrow and shot it again and it did it again, found my other horizontal and it flew straight, tried a different vertical and it side stepped as well with the trailing cross wind.  This was my only time that I noticed any difference in flight, but I prefer vertical for aiming purposes, I find the horizontal at times distracting.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: stick-um on January 11, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
I like mine horizontal so I can't see them as much. Really does'nt matter if you got them babies tuned right.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: jrbows on January 11, 2012, 11:49:00 PM
100% With Tajue 17 from previous page,had concentration issues with vertical mount and some of the arrows planed when mounted dead horizontal so I angle mine but it's not a 45.As far as getting between the ribs goes I shot a spike several years ago with a .145 grain grizzly that went between the ribs on a horizontal plane entering and leaving,it didn't bust the ribs it cut into both of them though,what position that broadhead is going to be in when it gets there is a crapshoot,keep trying until it works.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: Friend on January 12, 2012, 09:44:00 AM
When tuned the arrow position is irrelevent for the excellent flight under normal conditions.

I either have the BH set horizontal or diagnol enough not to obscure my site window.

Have shot verticle vs. horizontal in windy conditions. The verticle BH's demonstrated a little more instability.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: beyondmyken on January 12, 2012, 10:00:00 AM
Just in case anyone thought I was serious about mounting so the BH would slip between the ribs.  I was joking.

Actually I know how many rotations my arrow does at any distance out to 67 yards so I can have my broadhead hit the target at orientation I wish.   :D    ;)    :p    :cool:    :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: reddogge on January 12, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DuffyRP:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by beyondmyken:
Horizontal  for war, vertical for hunting so the BH can slip between the ribs.     :D  
How do keep them arrows from turning in flight.   :dunno:  [/b]
I think he's pulling your leg a little.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: soap creek on January 12, 2012, 08:42:00 PM
horizontal for me. Tried both did'nt notice any difference in how they flew. I use a recurve mostly when I hunt and I like to hang it with a arrow nocked and ready without the use of an arrow holder. Several times hunting in windy conditions with my 2blade vertical the wind blew the arrow off the rest, letting it fall to the ground. Now I always install horizonal.
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: joe ashton on January 12, 2012, 10:37:00 PM
I like vertical but they seem to fly either way as long as the arrow is well tuned to the bow.
Now the thing is what ever you decide have all your arrows the same so the sight picture does not change one arrow to the next.  That would just add a little confusion at the
Title: Re: Broadhead - Vertical or horizontal?
Post by: joe ashton on January 12, 2012, 10:37:00 PM
time.