What bowyers still cut their risers by hand or CNC their riser with a palm swell? I have been experimenting with different grips ( by using suede leather and bondo and have discovered that a moderate palm swell( similar to what one finds on hammer handles and some knives) really improves my consistency.
I am sure the next bow that I order will have to have a handle with a palm swell.
Built up longbows and recurves til I found a couple Dale Dye recurves. Still have Hummingbird Longbows built up but the Dyes fit from the factory. Roy
Allen,
I do custom shaped grips all the time for my customers in just about any design you'd like. I've even had guys send me clay models that I've shaped exactly to the model.
Everyone has a little different angle they feel comfortable with. I'm a firm believer having that grip fit just right makes a huge difference in your shooting consistency. Kirk
Allen, Dan Toelke builds his risers by hand from a tracing of your hand with a raised area for your thumb to locate to. Absolutely repeatable grip shot after shot.
Schafer, Robertson, and Dale Dye will all make their bows with a palm swell; at leastt they all did when I ordered mine. My Tolke's grip is different from the classical palm swell but it is easy to get a consistent grip.
The pics of the Toelke bows that I have seen have a thumb rest like a Fedora but not a palm swell unless I am mistaken. The hand tracing that many bowyers use seems to be more for the circumference made by the thumb and index finger grip, I am guessing.
Kirk has the right idea about a mold of the grip.
By the way,from what I have seen of modifications of household items made for people with hand arthritis by occupational therapists, a "chubby grip" could be better for those who have arthritis in their bow hand.
Eaglewing bows all have a palmswell and deep thumb groove. I add on extra thumb rest on request. All bows are fit to a hand tracing. Its about the best you can do unless the buyer is actually at the shop to fit.
God bless you all and have a great new year , Steve
Bob Lee risers have a good swell on them and can custom shape any handle you like
Whisperstick mojostick, Great Northern super ghost, and Dan Toelke Chinook all have a palm swell grip that I like.
Put a #3 Bear grip on any Bear Mag Riser.
I discussed the additional "palm swell" question with Bob Morrison on the last mini 13 ILF riser I had him make me. I was concerned as many times my hand would 'slide' to to left and forward [ I'm right handed]as I draw and apply weight...
He came up with the "Perfect Grip" after supplying a very good "trace" of my hand that absolutely works fantastic... Talk to your bowyer. Even though they may use CNC's to great extent, they can also build you a truly custom grip. :wavey:
In addition to the above, a Tall Tines has a very nice palm swell. Try to get a hold of a Stalker too, their grips seem to be molded to your hand.
Guess I should have asked for pics, since " A picture is worth a thousand words." Can anyone provide pics of the palm swell? A view from the belly side would be most desirable.
Go to the Black Widow site.They have pictures of their available riser grips for both recurve and longbow.
I used to shoot magnum revolvers. Learned quick that a good grip is required for shot-to-shot consistency.
I play hell getting a grip with enough palm swell and front to back dimension.
I have short fingers, toes, nose... but apparently a broad palm. Dang bow will rotate on me on release and cause pure havoc.
I like that point above about arthritis... not yet in the hand, (everywhere else) but low grips especially cause tendons in my bow hand/wrist to ache in a couple shots!
Bob built me a honkin big riser once on my Cheyenne... works well. I struggle with every other bow I have or try to shoot!
All our bows are all hand shaped so we can make or copy any grip you would like
Black widow "Asbell grip"
here is my st joe river has a palm swell on it to fit my hand
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here is another one
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they are all hand shaped and filed by hand to your desire from them
Thanks guys. The pic helps. The mods I have made are much more pronounced, almost bulbous in shape. A good while back, a bowyer made a grip that was already canted to about 45 degrees, I cannot remember the name.
Rainy day bows have a palm swell that fits right into your hand and can be shaped to fit your hand size. go to my web site I have a picture of my bow grip.
Griffins have a very nice palm swell.
Here's what I have on my Kota Prairie Nomad:
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Fits me very well.
Chuck, that is the kind of palm swell I am asking about, the one that fills the middle of the palm. Of course the part that contacts the heel of the hand is important too. Thanks for the photo.
The Great Northern Super Ghost has a nice palm swell.
I just received my new recurve from St. Joe River bows and its just to what I ordered. They will construct the handle to what you want they will actualy send you samples to draw on and such so they get it just how you want it. heres how mine turned out and now ordering a longbow the same.
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Cool bow! :thumbsup:
The Shrew Classic Hunter I have has a bulbuous handle to it...
The Shrew Classic Hunter I have has a bulbuous handle to it...
I make my own but it's alot like a Zipper. U might want to consider them. My first Zipper from Bob T. days had a nice palm swell and thats where If fell in love with them.
What about this one?
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I would look up roman hershberger hill country bows. He spent a lot of time translating my ideas into the perfect bow. The grip was something we came up with after much discussion and is absolutely perfect. He put quite a bit of palm swell into it for me and consequently I shoot it much better than the rest of my bows. Good luck in your quest for "the one" Kenny is a rep for him on here and his site is tradways.com