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Title: it broke!
Post by: John Nail on December 28, 2011, 12:50:00 PM
I was out shooting this morning--Ancient Spirits Kadiak #441 60" 55@28" one piece . it broke right in the handle. (serious crack)Wasn't dramatic, but it reminded me that it's a stick--glass or no.

Can anyone fix it? or maybe make the limbs into ILF?
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Post by: Pat B on December 28, 2011, 01:18:00 PM
Did the old glue line delaminate. I've had that happen with old recurves. I guess the glue gets brittle over the years.
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Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on December 28, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
talk with wingnut
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Post by: Jedimaster on December 28, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
Depending on where & how it cracked you may drill through the riser and pin it with brass rods and epoxy. Clamp it tight until it cures, then sand smooth and refinish.
Title: Re: it broke!
Post by: John Nail on December 28, 2011, 03:31:00 PM
no, it's pretty much toast. Just a shame to lose the limbs.
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Post by: stujay on December 28, 2011, 04:01:00 PM
That's too bad.  :(
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Post by: GRINCH on December 28, 2011, 04:06:00 PM
I had a kadiak break like that,you might see if someone is willing to build a riser for the limbs,shame they were nice bows.
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Post by: Killdeer on December 28, 2011, 06:02:00 PM
Yup. Warf it.

Killdeer
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Post by: Sixby on December 28, 2011, 07:54:00 PM
John post a pic of the bow.

God bless you, Steve
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Post by: John Nail on December 28, 2011, 10:13:00 PM
I highlited it with a marker

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/johnnail/005-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/johnnail/004.jpg)
Title: Re: it broke!
Post by: ron w on December 28, 2011, 10:19:00 PM
I would try to fit it with a couple of screws and some good epoxy. Can't hurt to try!
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Post by: 30coupe on December 28, 2011, 10:21:00 PM
Yikes! Hard to believe it broke across the grain of the riser. Still, I think it might be repairable. It would involve drilling down through the shelf and epoxying in some reinforcing rods then adding some overlays to the back of the riser. I'm kind of guessing at that, but that's what I would do if it were mine. I doubt the limbs would be the same if grafted onto another riser (my opinion).

Sorry for your loss, John.
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Post by: Tajue17 on December 28, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
good thing it didn't come back and hit you in the face,, I had a Jack Harrison HHC that came apart at full draw did just that.
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Post by: Larry m on December 28, 2011, 10:28:00 PM
I had a similar situation years ago. I was able to back the riser area with Gordon's Bow Tuff Glass (think that was the name. A bowyer friend gave me a piece), epoxy and brass screws (filed off part of the screw heads after set up for cosmetic reasons). A bit of sanding and new finish and I was able to shoot it with confidence that it would not come apart. Sloppy craftsmanship will not work here but it may be saved as a shooter! Actually recently sold it very cheaply to a friend who raved about what a good shooting bow it is.
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Post by: Shakes.602 on December 28, 2011, 10:31:00 PM
Bummer!!  :(   At least it didnt "Thump Yer Melon" or Worse.  :eek:   Man, that is ugly right where is Cracked too, can ya Warf the limbs?  :confused:
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Post by: Troy Breeding on December 28, 2011, 10:58:00 PM
Do you think doing a wrap on the handle section like you do with the fiberglass and carbon takedowns would handle the repair.

Troy
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Post by: sawtoothscream on December 29, 2011, 12:58:00 AM
sorry to hear that.  i had one of mine blow up over the summer. riser split and so did the upper limb. man that thing was loud. only had that bow for 3 or 4 months.
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Post by: Sixby on December 29, 2011, 02:44:00 AM
It can be fixed like Troy said. I would drill and dowell it first with smooth on and a good hardwood dowell. then relieve the entire handle area 1/8 inch an wrap it with impregnated fiberglass cloth. You can then cover that with a leather grip and you are good to go with the same grip profile and all. It will look just like you did a leather grip on it if you do it right. You could also add a heavy glass overlay on the back. That would help too. but I seriously believe it can be saved.

John , God loves you sir or you would have eaten that bow. It came so close to completely blowing up there had to be an angel holding it together.
I have never seen one crack straight across like that. They usually break form the sight window , through the shelf to the deepest part of the grip. That little turkey was going to break right in two.

God bless you, Steve