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Title: Freezer filler (pics) anatomy update page 3
Post by: JoeM on December 27, 2011, 11:59:00 AM
Well last night was little bit of a run around.  Looking to fluff the freezer for the winter I was looking for a doe as we are coming down to the wire here.  Went to one of my spots that seemed to be drawing quiet a bit of action towards a field.  Had a good friend with me and decided he would cover one corner and I the other.  Well the deer started to show up on his side and pile into the field, I was happy to put him in a good spot.  
I finally get some action and its this young spike, probably not being able to get out again I decide to take a shot if luck shines on me.  Well he came by and I made a shot that was a little far back but I thought I would be OK.  Watched as he headed towards some tall grass looking sick, and then I loose him.  
An hour later my friend on the other corner, I notice through binos, is having a stare down with a nice buck.  I'm enjoying the show and watching my watch as daylight fades.  I decide something has to happen or he's not getting a shot.  I take out my blunt and send it on a 80yds lob behind the buck at a big oak.  He hears the noise turns to look and my friend goes to full draw, moments later buck down in sight.
This is were things get interesting I walk to my friend congratulate him and ask if he saw the young spike cross the field he assures he didn't cross.  I then ask him if he knew why his buck turned, he said he heard something behind him I showed him the blunt and smiled. Well he was quiet happy with decision.
We decide my buck must be down in the tall grass and we head out to retrieve him.  As we approach I see a deer stand, we hit the deck my friend confirms through binos its my buck.  He looks real sick and my friend thinks we can finish him, so the stalk is on.  My friend is a compounder and ask if I want him to finish him, I tell him I'll finish what i started and continue to close ground. I end up finishing the buck and return to my friend annoyed at my self for the first shot that should have been a lay up.  He gave me some words to hang on to, "Hey man things happen, you came out hunting today to kill a deer and that what the end result was. You got it done not pretty it could have been worse".   Sorry no field pics we were busy dragging, gutting, and loading.
Some happy pics from this morning.
    (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg177/Joe-Mart/P1070050.jpg)
My pulley team
    (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg177/Joe-Mart/P1070053.jpg)
Goofballs
    (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg177/Joe-Mart/P1070051.jpg)
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Post by: frassettor on December 27, 2011, 12:06:00 PM
Great pics! Congrats!
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Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on December 27, 2011, 12:12:00 PM
Awesome job, Love the pics.

Nice to get one in the freezer before the seasons over.
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Post by: wildgame on December 27, 2011, 12:18:00 PM
cool pics!!  :campfire:    :clapper:
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Post by: snakebit40 on December 27, 2011, 12:22:00 PM
:thumbsup:    :clapper:
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Post by: pacopperhead on December 27, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
good job Joe
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on December 27, 2011, 12:32:00 PM
Way to go Joe.

Great Story, will have to wait for the pictures until I get home.
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Post by: beendare on December 27, 2011, 01:22:00 PM
Awesome photo with your kids. Their happiness is infectious!
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Post by: Bow man on December 27, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
Great photo!!! Congratulations
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Post by: Ragin Bull on December 27, 2011, 01:32:00 PM
Congrats, looks like you have lots of help  :clapper:    :clapper:
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Post by: cacciatore on December 27, 2011, 01:45:00 PM
great family,big memories built.  :clapper:
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Post by: rushlush on December 27, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
Congrats!
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Post by: kpete on December 27, 2011, 01:59:00 PM
Great job.  Nice "pack" you have helping you.
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Post by: LONGSTYKES on December 27, 2011, 03:37:00 PM
Congratulations on a nice young buck. Great pics, the kids are having a wonderful time. Enjoy
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Post by: durp on December 27, 2011, 03:44:00 PM
nice eatin buck there...looks like my team of goofballs about 30 years ago...
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Post by: Pat B. on December 27, 2011, 03:48:00 PM
I bet he'll eat really well !
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Post by: Fletch2 on December 27, 2011, 03:53:00 PM
Good job. Good looking family.
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Post by: Ulysseys on December 27, 2011, 04:01:00 PM
Cool story with the blunt - pretty bold move.
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Post by: swp on December 27, 2011, 04:01:00 PM
Congrats!!
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Post by: frank bullitt on December 27, 2011, 04:30:00 PM
What fletch 2 said! Plus, your a blessed man, Joe!

Congrats and enjoy!
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Post by: on December 27, 2011, 04:46:00 PM
Congrats!

Bisch
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Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on December 27, 2011, 05:12:00 PM
Priceless!
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Post by: Shedrock on December 27, 2011, 05:33:00 PM
Great story and congrats on fillin' the freezer!
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Post by: pitbull on December 27, 2011, 05:39:00 PM
Awesome Congrats!   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Guru on December 27, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
Thats's awesome bud...congrats!!!
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Post by: huntingarcher on December 27, 2011, 05:58:00 PM
Congrats and it looks like you will have your hands full with that group.
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Post by: Izzy on December 27, 2011, 06:06:00 PM
Outstanding, great pics.
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Post by: joe ashton on December 27, 2011, 06:09:00 PM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: stujay on December 27, 2011, 06:13:00 PM
Looks like you will have lots of help with the steaks etc. off the deer. LOL  :D
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Post by: illianabowhntr67 on December 27, 2011, 06:16:00 PM
Nice job congrats.
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Post by: drewsbow on December 27, 2011, 06:21:00 PM
That is awesome , congrats   :wavey:
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Post by: GRINCH on December 27, 2011, 06:31:00 PM
Congrats on the deer,your pull team is one of the best I've seen,thanks for the pics.
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Post by: rastaman on December 27, 2011, 07:19:00 PM
Way to go sir!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: straitera on December 27, 2011, 07:42:00 PM
Thanks for the story & pix. That's happy family of venison eaters! Nice deer & nice family.
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Post by: maineac on December 27, 2011, 08:53:00 PM
Congrats on filling the freezer, and getting an assist on a second deer.!
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Post by: tracker1 on December 27, 2011, 11:34:00 PM
Good job.  I love the pics of your kids helping you with the deer they can go back and look at them when they get older and get a laugh out of them
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Post by: volcanomil on December 28, 2011, 07:32:00 AM
nice, congrats
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Post by: Stone Knife on December 28, 2011, 07:46:00 AM
Awesome going Joe   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on December 28, 2011, 07:56:00 AM
I love the Goff Balls pic  :)

Congrats on the deer !
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Post by: Roadkill on December 28, 2011, 08:47:00 AM
That smile tells me you have him as a partner.  My partner is still hunting with me after 28 years.  Way to go
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Post by: twitchstick on December 28, 2011, 09:08:00 AM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Mike Manassa on December 28, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
Congratulations Joe..Thats the way to end the season..  :clapper:
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Post by: JoeM on January 03, 2012, 11:16:00 AM
I've been meaning to get on here and post this, it has me a little puzzled.  I knew when I shot this buck, my shot was a little back but nothing I was concerned with as the deer was slightly quartered. Concern came when the buck stood up an hour and a half later although very sick, he was still alive. I assumed I hit a little further back than I thought and took liver and one lung.
Butchering later I get a little confused.  My shot entered on the near side in front of the diaphragm by about 3 inches and exited on the far side dead center of the kill zone.  Height of the shot brought the arrow in about 3 inches below the spine inside the ribcage (not from the top of his back) and exited about two thirds down on the far side.
Now the diaphragm seperates the lungs and heart from the rest of the internals.  So why was this buck still alive? My BH's are always hair plowing sharp, I take pride in making sure of that. As best I can reconstruct he was double lunged. Maybe I only sliced the near side lung a little high, not enough to collapse it?  I'm not sure but nature continues to awe me, and sometimes make me scratch my head.
Some follow up picks of our freezer filler
Wrecking mommas kitchen
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg177/Joe-Mart/P1070066.jpg)
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg177/Joe-Mart/P1070070.jpg)
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Post by: recurve_shooter on January 03, 2012, 11:57:00 AM
With the exit in the middle of the kill zone offside, it sounds like you probably did catch the back of the near lung, maybe centered the offside lung and were still a little too high for the heart.  It is amazing how tough they can be sometimes, yet the next one you hit like that might go down in 20 seconds!

Great idea with the blunt.  Your buddy ought to at least give you the backtraps off his deer...looks like you'll have plenty of help eating them!
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Post by: Big Ed on January 04, 2012, 12:19:00 AM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Skipmaster1 on January 04, 2012, 01:05:00 AM
Congrats on the deer and on having a family that is as happy as you are about getting it!

I had a similar thing happen  a couple of years ago. I made what looked like a perfect shot on a small buck. I saw where he ran into some thickets and thought he was down. I walked back to my house and waited for my buddy to come help me. It was pouring rain and by the time we got back a few hours had passed since the shot and we could still follow the blood trail! I was shocked when he jumped up in front of us. I hit him again as he bounded off and watched him bed 60yds away. We backed out and came back an hour later and he was down just a few yards from his last bed. I made sure to take pictures because I was amazed he lived that long looking at the location of the shot. Some deer are just plain tough!
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Post by: beendare on January 04, 2012, 01:43:00 AM
Just speculation but.....if you look at the lung tissue of a healthy deer-say killed by spine shot- the tissue is like a sponge. It varies in thickness and density.

You could potentially catch the edge of a lung slicing an inch of lung tissue without causing the lung itself to fill with blood or collapse. I think there are a lot of unrecovered 'perfect shots' that- in reality- were a bit high and caught the top portion of this thick lung tissue.
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Post by: JoeM on January 04, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by beendare:
Just speculation but.....if you look at the lung tissue of a healthy deer-say killed by spine shot- the tissue is like a sponge. It varies in thickness and density.

You could potentially catch the edge of a lung slicing an inch of lung tissue without causing the lung itself to fill with blood or collapse. I think there are a lot of unrecovered 'perfect shots' that- in reality- were a bit high and caught the top portion of this thick lung tissue.
You're spot on, most of the vessels are low in the lungs. I think what you described is exactly what happened, it just amazes me how they can take an arrow through the vitals and make it so long.  No doubt he would have died, when I saw him he was real sick. Just still amazes me the strength and will to live.  I also wanted to post this to pass along something that may be able to help others if they get in a similar pinch.  Joe
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Post by: Skipmaster1 on January 04, 2012, 12:55:00 PM
After talking with JoeM I decided to post these pictures as the situation was so similar. This is the deer i wrote about in the post above. It just shows that no matter how good a shot looks, sometimes strange things happen!

Entrance

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/skipmaster1/IMG_1331.jpg)


Exit

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/skipmaster1/IMG_1326.jpg)