I would like to know who here,shoots 45lbs or less for Whitetails..I would like to know specifics,arrows,broadheads,weights etc.. Thanks
My wife shoots 38@26+", she shoots 425 grain tapered cedars with Zwicky 125 grain Eskimos and 440 grain 1816s with Grizzly 125s, both arrows are cut to 27.25". She has never lost a deer and has never at least had full penetration of the arrow. She has used a Redwing Hunter, a Darton, and now a 54" Lost Creek NAT. I shot a deer with a 37 pound at my draw Hill longbow for a deer once when I hurt my arm weight lifting, trying to stay in shape for my 90 plus pound longbow. The arrow hung up on a corn stalk and pulled out of the other side of a 160 pound doe that 18 yards out and 9 feet higher than the gully I was sitting in. It dropped in 80 yards. That was a 5/16"cedar with a 140 grain Howard Hill broadhead. If you have a longer draw and your bow is 40 and up you have a lot more power than these examples, just make sure your arrow is flying straight behind a sharp broadhead and pick a spot.
My sig line showes the 2 bows that I mostly shoot but that Sky - Sky Hawk is a sweet shooter just a touch over your 45# limit but will give you an idea.
For that Sky Hawk I use full length Gold Tip Trad 35/55's with 30gr. inserts & a 1.5" piece of aluminum 2117 as a footer. 125gr. Woodsman up front & 5" Turkey feathers in back. 469gr. total arrow weight.
I've taken a nice Doe at 22 yards with that set up with complete pass through & she only made 50 yards.
Good luck my friend, I hope that you find the right combination that best fits you.
45# Grizzly 55-60# POC shafts with Bear Greenies. Total arrow weight 600gr
40# Hill Country Harvest Master also POC shaft with 160gr STO. The shafts on these are light. Total arrow weight 500 gr.
Been hunting the Grizzly the most only because I shoot it better. I have 100% confidence in either and might switch to the 40# as the real cold weather comes
pavan, interesting info. Thanks for sharing those experiences.
41# @ 28" Treadway Longbow
1916's, 28.5" bop, 160 gr Stos 2 blade.
40# @ 28" Zipper SXT Recurve with carbon foam limbs
2016's 28" bop, 160 gr Stos 2 blade.
In the last 4 years, have taken mature white-tailed bucks with the following....
2008 - 40# 60" Quinn Stallion recurve, 125 gr. Muzzy Phantom 2-blade, 2014 aluminum, 420 gr. total weight.
(13 yd shot, 14 ft up)
2008 - 43# 64" ACS-CX longbow, 200 gr. Ace Standard, .500 carbon, 480 gr. total weight.
(19 yd shot, 16 ft up)
2009 - 43# 64" Turkey Creek longbow, 200 gr. Simmons Interceptor, .600 carbon, 440 gr. total weight.
(9 yd shot, on the ground)
2010 - 45# 60" Kim-Shaw longbow, 200 gr. Simmons Interceptor, .600 carbon, 440 gr. total weight.
(20 yd shot, 14 ft up)
2011 - 40# 52" Kodiak Magnum recurve, 100 gr. Zwickey, 5/16" cedar 44 lb spine, 460 gr. total weight.
(5 yd shot, 12 ft up)
Good hunting to you...
- Dave
My wife shoots a 45# DAS bow with Win&Win short ILF limbs which makes a 58" bow. The ILF concept gives her plenty of preload and her bow even at her 26" draw outshoots my old Groves, 60" 55# @ 28" bow. Her arrows are 27" 500 Beman MFX or Axis FMJ. She shoots with a 200 grain broadhead, either a4 blade phantom or 3 blade razorcap. Her arrows come in right about 500 grains and she shoots thru every animal she has taken so far....bear and deer.
Since my 42# and 37# recurves are cut 3/16" past center, they can shoot a variety of differently spined aluminum arrows with different point weights depending on a light to heavy arrow setup. I also have a 30" draw length.
Right now, I'm shooting a 32" BOP, 421 grain Easton X7 Eclipse 2212 aluminum target arrow tipped with a 3 blade, 1" wide Muzzy 75 grain broadhead.
I use this light arrow setup for both of my recurves.
My bows range from a 41# Bob Lee TD Longbow to a 45# Morrison Cheyenne. I am most comfortable right around 43-44# and have several bows, both longbows and recurves, in those weights. I am most likely to shoot arrows fletched RW, 4.5" 3-fletch, with 200g up front (combination of BH, adapter and insert) for a grain total of about 500g, give or take. I shoot 2016s, weighted cedars and various carbons tho I prefer the Grizzlystik Sitkas. All are cut to 29". My draw is just shy of 28". I use Grizzly or STOS 2-blade BHs. This combination shoots through deer "like budda". I wouldn't feel underbowed with the right shot opportunity on even larger game.
I shoot a Brackenbury Quest recurve and a Thunderhorn Coup Stick longbow, both are 45# @ 27".
I use the same arrow in both bows: 1916 alum arrows 28" long w/125gr points. Broadheads are Zwickey and Magnus.
45 pounds is plenty for deer sized animals and for most other animals on this continent with a properly set up arrow.
Tricia and Morgan both shoot 40 lbs and hunt with 560 grain arrows using 200 grain Grizzly El Grande Broadheads. they hunt elk with their set ups. Tricia shoots a RD longbow. Morgan shoots a recurve. Both are more than enough for deer.
My set-up
Herter's takedown 44#@28 - 520 gr cedar arrow with 160 gr STOS went completely thru 9-point buck and stuck into the ground.
This year I shot a 40#@28" 3pc longbow and I pull 29.5" so I figure about 43-44 lbs. I shoot full length goldtip3355's with STOS broadheads that weigh 215gr with the inserts. I shot a 7point on 11-11-11 hitting in the shoulder blade on one side and came out behind the shoulder on the other side with a pass through. The arrow was hanging on by the feathers but still did a great job as I watched him fall in 30yards. So I say 45# is enough with a properly placed arrow. Arrow weight is aroud 530gr if I remember correctly.
This year I shot a 42# @29" 68" NTN LB of my own making. I prefer to shoot my 50# LB but a shoulder problem prevented that!
Arrow is a 23/64th POC spined at 55# cut to 31 inch at the base of a 190 grain ribtek fletched with three 6" feathers. Finishes at 650 grains. For sure not a flat shooting set up, but it is smooth and arrow flight is just about near perfect
Wish I could say it whistled through a deer or elk, but I never had a shot! ;) It did show good penetration on the various target materials that I shot into.
Hoping to go back to the 50# next year but if it's not possible, the only thing I'll change is to go to a single bevel 190 or 200 Grizzly.
Samick Red Stag 45lb@28"
Samick Sage 40lb@28"
My draw is 26". I shoot GT Trad 3555's cut to 29.5" for both bows. The Red Stag is cut to center and the Sage is cut 3/16" past center, so it takes a stiffer spine. With the Red Stag I shoot 170 grain Eskimos with 50 grain brass inserts. With the Sage, I replace the brass inserts with lighter aluminum ones. My arrows weigh from 440-475 grains. I can't report how they do on game, but they fly true and thump the target with authority, penetrating pretty well. Inside of 25 yards I have full confidence in my setup for deer or hogs. Hopefully I'll have pics and a story to tell by the end of the season.
I don't know if he's seen this thread yet, but Flyboy718 has taken a couple deer with a 40lb. Quinn Stallion. Keep in mind his draw length is about a mile long, so he gets some extra uumph outta his setup. :D
My ILF is 40@28 or 44@30. Plenty of weight for NW blacktails...PR
QuoteOriginally posted by Pinelander:
2008 - 43# 64" ACS-CX longbow, 200 gr. Ace Standard, .500 carbon, 480 gr. total weight.
(19 yd shot, 16 ft up)
2009 - 43# 64" Turkey Creek longbow, 200 gr. Simmons Interceptor, .600 carbon, 440 gr. total weight.
(9 yd shot, on the ground)
2010 - 45# 60" Kim-Shaw longbow, 200 gr. Simmons Interceptor, .600 carbon, 440 gr. total weight.
(20 yd shot, 14 ft up)
- Dave
Hey Dave,
What is your drawlength and what length are your carbon arrows BOP? I'm trying to tune some CE Heritage 75s (.600) to my bows. Thanks.
Mike, I'm 27" draw length.
ACS bow, the 500's were 30.5" long.
The Turkey Creek, the 600's were 29" long.
The Kim-Shaw, the 600's were 29.5" long.
The ACS was setup at centershot, whereas the other two bows were out past center.
Every bow and shooter is different, that is why I was hesitant to get real specific with arrow length/draw length, etc. It's rare that two people (even with the same bow, poundage, draw, etc.) will shoot the exact same setup.
- Dave
I shoot a Holm-Made Osprey, 44# @ 28".
29" 1916 legacies with 3 4" shields
2 blade, 125gr Magnus Stingers with PDP inserts and 25gr wgt added.
7" wrap and double dog on the back. About 505 grs total.
DaveP
Nuff said :thumbsup:
I shoot a 45 lb Big River R/D Longbow. Probabbly similar to your savanah.
My arrows average 470 grains. They have 130 Stos 2 blades up front and average 600 Grains total. Although I have not shot a deer with this bow, I have no doubt in its capabilities.
I shoot 43#@25" draw length Super Shrew Deluxe with 5/16 Cedar arrows that I build with Zwickey Eskalite 2 blades with good results and penetration. I draw right at 25".
Bill
Bow draw weight is but one measure of a bow. A 45# ACS and a 45# self-bow are light years away from each other. One size does not fit all. Generalizations are flawed.
My favorite bow is my 1969/70 vintage Bear Super-K 45#, 64" long. Arrows are cedar 29" around 550grs. I hunt with vintage Bear Razor-heads or Zwickey two or four blade models. I think I may try the Woodsman broadheads next season. This bow is smooth as silk and whisper quiet even with its' vintage spring arm quiver.
Ross
This is very encouraging around the "lower" weights. I always felt the 50# @ draw length was a minimum "hunting" weight. Here in Nova Scotia we have a 40# minimum for deer, 50# for moose. A moose tag is 1 in a million, so 45# sounds to be more that adequate.
I'm looking at this with interest, because a new Zipper is coming at some point and I know for me, the lighter weight is more fun to shoot. A 45#er it may be. Bill says the carbon/foam core gives 3# more performance. I like this idea.
Not trying to stir the pot but if I couldnt draw 45 pounds I wouldnt bow hunt. In fact, for several years I could not draw 45# and I did not hunt. But thats just me.
Interesting thread!
For almost a year ago Nathan aka Buejeger and I had a thread going around the same topic:
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=098150;p=1
If you go to page 3 you will find some interesting vids of 38# longbow and a 42# recurve against deer scapula.
Weight on arrow for the 38# longbow was 544 grains.
For the 42# recurve 650 grains!