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Title: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: Blaino on December 12, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
does anyone make a bh that has the specs of a grizzly or tuffhead but with bleaders?

the no-mercy is shorter then what i have in mind.....
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: Bill Carlsen on December 12, 2011, 10:50:00 AM
Not that I am aware of but you can't go wrong with the Muzzy Phantom.
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: wv lungbuster on December 12, 2011, 11:01:00 AM
I don't think so, the no-mercy is about a close as it gets.
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: wihill on December 12, 2011, 11:58:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bill Carlsen:
Not that I am aware of but you can't go wrong with the Muzzy Phantom.
I'll second the Muzzy Phantom.  I was VERY happy with 220gr ones that I tried out.  The tips could have used a little work, but overall a great broadhead for the money.
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: JamesKerr on December 12, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Blaino:
does anyone make a bh that has the specs of a grizzly or tuffhead but with bleaders?

the no-mercy is shorter then what i have in mind.....
I don't know of any 4 blade heads out there with a more length than the no mercy. I would recommend giving it a try as for a 4 blade it ranks second for me behind a good old bear razorhead.
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on December 12, 2011, 01:36:00 PM
If I understand correctly, Muzzy is coming out with a longer, leaner 4 blade phantom.  From what I read, the blades are a little longer, the bleeder is 1" in width and it comes with a tanto tip.
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: kibok&ko on December 12, 2011, 04:27:00 PM
the new phantom

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/t500_c3366d61118ce128f1423b628fb0e6a7.jpg)
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: Blaino on December 12, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
That phantom looks kinda close. Where did you find that?

I wonder if there's a market for what I'd like to have?....
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: owlbait on December 12, 2011, 08:51:00 PM
That head just screams Wasp or Satelitte, don't it? Actually, looks pretty impressive.
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: SlowBowinMO on December 12, 2011, 09:23:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Blaino:
That phantom looks kinda close. Where did you find that?

I wonder if there's a market for what I'd like to have?....
I'm sure the Phantom will be a fine head, but it's going to be 3/8" shorter than a No Mercy.  I really think the No Mercy is as close as you're going to get.  You could try slotting something like a Grizzly for bleeders yourself.  You might try a search on here, I believe Mike Orton posted how he'd done it to an El Grande.
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on December 12, 2011, 09:37:00 PM
The picture of the Muzzy Phantom is the new Fred Eichler Signature Series broadhead.

They have more info on their website.  It has all the specs listed, except for the total length.  It should be available by January 2012.
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: twigflicker on December 12, 2011, 10:28:00 PM
I made my own... wanted the same thing... used a Stos 160 and Magnus Bleeders...

Sorry for the horrible pics... all I had was cell phone...

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/twigflicker/1212112053a.jpg)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/twigflicker/1212112053.jpg)

Used a drill press and a small machine table with cutoff wheels...

Jonathan
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: mark land on December 13, 2011, 04:51:00 PM
Total lenght for the new Phantom from base of blades to tip is about 2.350 and for our standard 125/220 Phantom is about 2.10 so there is a good length difference but more importantly we were able to increase the bleeder blade length by about 5/8in and reduce the width to 1in so it makes for a much longer, leaner head that is definitely going to increase penetration.
It is available in 150gr as a 4bl and 125gr as a 2bl head.
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: Jason Kendall on December 13, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
I like the looks of the new Muzzy, since I switched to 150 heads I WILL be trying them out!
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: Ground Hunter on December 13, 2011, 05:49:00 PM
Thanks Mark.  That sounds like a good head!  When will be be seeing them?
Title: Re: long and lean 4 blade
Post by: Blaino on December 13, 2011, 07:38:00 PM
I would really like to have a 4 blade that the bleeders are just as think as the main blade.  A grizzle or tuffhead with single bevel bleeders.... That's what I'm talkin bout!  It might be a pain to sharpen but I think the benefits would be worth it.  Thoughts??....