A guy on here who has only 19 posts wanted some antler as he was a new flintknapper. I pm'ed him and told him I had a box of antler and would send him some for a couple of stone points and the postage for the box. This happened on Nov 21st. Haven't heard from him and don't even know if the antler showed up. I tried to send him a PM and ask him if the package showed and he has put me on the ignore list.
What to do?
jon
sorry for your bad experience
ive had all great experiences with trad gangers
in buying selling and trading
dont let 1 bad apple ruin the whole bushel for ya
just chalk it up as stuff happens
and if the individual was looking for something for nothing. then what comes around goes around
kevin
Tell Terry but there probably is not much you can do.
Sorry to hear that. I have never had any dealings with anyone on Tradgang as far as sending or recieving anything, but I would not hesitate to as everyone on here in general has a great personality.
I hope it doesn't end this way but prepare anyhow. We would like to believe the best in people,especially T/Gers but it's inevitable the day will come and we will be disappointed in others actions.Best wishes.
Thats why we should never deal with anyone less than 100 post like the old rules.
I understand there is not anything that can be done but that was a low rent thing to do. I pride myself in helping people out when I can and if he would have asked I would have sent the antler for nothing. But putting me on the PM ignore list shows that he did it intentiantlly. Anyone want to know who it is PM and I will let you know so you don't get taken from this guy.
I have been around here for awhile and this is the first time.
its a bad deal that some people are like that. I dont know how people do it or why they do :dunno: . what comes around goes around. There are still some good people out there to deal with.
Post his name on the bad dealings list, I would want to know who it is so it doesn't happen to me or anyone else.
Thanks
QuoteOriginally posted by njloco:
Post his name on the bad dealings list, I would want to know who it is so it doesn't happen to me or anyone else.
Thanks
X 1,000
OK....let me get this straight.....you sent a guy some anlters in a trade....you got nothing and he put YOU on his ignore list????
Email me his name...I have an ignore list also I'll add him to.
It just shows how good of a guy you are Jon. Don't let it get you down. There are them types all over and once found out, they get moved out. Just like society in general.
Thanks for all you do with Camp Cuervo and in the MLA as well. See you in a couple short months.
Like so many folks here on TG the users here are fantastic. Jon is tops among us. Especially for all he does for our troops and archery in general.
Post the user who jipped Jon to the Hall of Shame.
Jon,
Guys like that were who gave us job security when we were 'on the job'. Sorry that they are here on TG, too.
That is too bad, wish I could knap, I would send you a couple of points! Anything could have happened, could have lost points in the mail, etc. but for him to put you on his ignore list tells the real story! Can't stand dishonest people, just aint no sense in it
I found him Jon....let me know if he ever gets back with you.
No matter how protected and blessed our community is, it is still made up of people.
Don't lose site of the extreme vast majority of whom are truely your brothers.
Note: Many of us would give 1000 fold over not to be on that list.
It seems that in todays world communication as well as commomn curtesy has gone out the window. When I deal with someone I like to communicate what I have done on my part of the deal as soon as it is done as well as acknowledge when I recieve what the other party has done. I had the great pleasure of dealing with a member from here just last week on a quiver;comunicated that I had sent payment via Priority mail and he was kind enough to package up the product and ship it the next day before recieving payment. Made my day that he trusted me. Some folks just don"t realize acknowledgement is a kind gesture.
I hope it works out for the best. Jon is a good guy and a fair trader.
Chuck
I too have had great dealings with people on here, and I appreciate each and everyone of you guys!! Sorry that had to happen..
Im with centaur, both in occupation and mindset. Without dishonest idiots, id be out of a job, and it is an awful shame that some of them filter into a site like this that is 99% great folks. Its always the 1%ers that mess it up.
Scott
Thanks for your help with this Terry!!
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
OK....let me get this straight.....you sent a guy some anlters in a trade....you got nothing and he put YOU on his ignore list????
Email me his name...I have an ignore list also I'll add him to.
Now that I like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The one and only time I've been stiffed, I started a custom order knife for a gun dealer in Germany. He agreed on a price, but I had to leave on a reassignment back to the states before I could finish it. When I had it done, I called and asked if he still wanted it at the agreed upon price. My wife was traveling back to Germany to visit family and she carried it with her. The guy offered her half the price we agreed on "because the market in hand made knives has fallen off". I told her not to let him have it even at double the agreed price and to bring it back. I still send stuff before payment arrives and others do the same for me. Makes me feel good about society and I figure being burned once is just a "heads up" not a reason to give up on other's goodness.
Jon, look at it this way. You did right. He did wrong.
You may not get your stone points, but you did keep your honor.
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
OK....let me get this straight.....you sent a guy some anlters in a trade....you got nothing and he put YOU on his ignore list????
Email me his name...I have an ignore list also I'll add him to.
That's the list he needs to be on.
Jon,
PM me, I have some stone points I will send you.
That really sucks I hold TG in such high esteem with respect to the honor of fellow TGers everyone I have dealt with have been great. Sad that a person would take advantage of that and give nothing in return.
We can put an end to this for now. It happened. 99 1/2% of the people on here are OUTSTANDING. The owners have their hands full keeping and running a tight ship. It's just little crap like this that burns my tail.
Jon
I t happen to me to and it sucks! I really wish people like that wouldn't wast our time and generosity like that!
There seems to always be a bad apple. but i do not hear near as many of them on this site versus other ones ive been on. Thanks to Terry and the rest of the of the mods we can still have a great place to spend our time.
Jon, If you still need a couple stone points, please let me know. I didn't knapp them, but a good friend of mine did. They will do to hunt with.
Johnny/JAG
If a man can't stand by his word ,to me he has nothing.He definately doesn't deserve to be on this site with the quality of people we have.
I know there is a bad apple sometimes, and i hate that ! but this is the best all around bunch of guys ive ever delt with , may seem silly but i feel like a part of a big family. Thanks trad gang ! jon im sorry for your loss ! if you ever need anything that i have ,let me know and ill try and make up for that bad apple ! chuck :D
QuoteOriginally posted by longbowben:
Thats why we should never deal with anyone less than 100 post like the old rules.
I agree, but there is a post on the traditioal bows page about a bad deal with a gentleman that has over 3,000 posts. It can happen with anyone.
IM a fan of public lynching of these types. Lock 'em in the stocks in the town square,and bounce judo points off their foreheads, elbows and kneecaps. That should correct the bad behavior.
For every bumb, there's a bunch of great folks here. Scrape em' off!
The old "100 posts or more" rule only applied to bow sellers.
That stinks. I hate thieves and that's exactly what that guy is.
I'm having trouble finding the Hall of Shame posting. It use to jump right out at me but not anymore. I looked a few days ago before I came across this thread.
QuoteOriginally posted by Blackstick:
I'm having trouble finding the Hall of Shame posting. It use to jump right out at me but not anymore. I looked a few days ago before I came across this thread.
On the Forum Home Page-- right above the classified listings
Thanks Elkchaser, I guess I just needed someone to point me back in the right direction.
I sent you a PM. Bill
Pretty sad when post count decides if you're trustworthy or not. Guess no one should be dealing with me either even though I've already had several great interactions with members here.
EMT...what you don't realize is that scammers are KNOWN for registering on forums and RUNNING to the classifieds and selling a bunch of stuff and taking folks for a ride before anyone knows what happens.
THAT is the reason for being wary of low post counts.
I sell firewood on an honor system to the general public. They pick up the wood and leave the money in a mail drop in my door. 99% are honest and appreciate the opportunity to prove it. When someone does take a stack without paying I always remember that I will recall it for only a few weeks but they will remember it the rest of their lives.
Sorry you had the bad experience.
There is one in the bow section right now, joined on December 4th, his first post on Dec 6th was, "who can I turst" You going to sell to him???
If you run across an ad in the classifieds, or a post somewhere else, that needs the Mods attention please use the "report post" option at the bottom of every posting.
Looks like a whistle for a reason......
No whistle for a reason jcar, just facts about low post counts and asking questions like that.
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
EMT...what you don't realize is that scammers are KNOWN for registering on forums and RUNNING to the classifieds and selling a bunch of stuff and taking folks for a ride before anyone knows what happens.
THAT is the reason for being wary of low post counts.
Can ah git an AMEN for Mr. Green?
A-men. Nuff said till the rinse cycle spins out and it will all come out in the wash.
We danged near lost the Classifieds before so let's let it settle till the sun sets, smoke clears and spin cycle is complete.
The Greatest Part of this Site is the Honest Folks, that are Truely Great People. Just Remember: This One Event was the "Exception, NOT The RULE!!" :thumbsup: :goldtooth:
The thing that tells the most about this whole deal is 3 guys came forward to offer Jon stone points free of charge and they were not involved in the bad deal. That is tops in my book!!! All you guys are great. :thumbsup: