Probably not new to this forum but I think that we found a really tough stump shooting carbon by doing some modifications. Leon Stewart and I were fooling around with making me a half dozen carbon stump shooters a few weeks ago. We took a 3/8 oak dowel rod, cut it down to 6 " and sanded it down to fit a 35/55 Carbon Tech Whitetail carbon shaft. We glued in the wood dowel rod and then I bought some really nice 125 grain rubber screw in blunts from a local archery shop that have a large round head. I normally shoot 175 grain field points and they fly the same with this configuraiton. I figured the dowel rod and 125 grain tip weight out close to 175 grains on the front end of the arrow.
I have been shooting these things into everything without any issue whatsoever. It really added strength to these shafts and keeps them from breaking up front. I think the rubber blunt configuration also helps soften the blow to the front of the arrow.
Ron
Cool idea! I think I seen this in some of the ashby writings. The dowel was sanded down to a point on the nock end so the shaft could flex around the dowel. I might have to try this for my stumping arrows tonight. If it's tough enough for buffalo in might be tough for So. Utah rocks.
For my stumping I use the same arrows I use for hunting. I have a 100 grain brass insert in them which seems to do wonders for durability. If you read the Ashby reports a shaft with a brass insert and foc over 20% seem to be some of the most durable in his testing.
Sounds like that would work great! I used the little aluminum jobs from 3Rivers that go over the shaft. I put one on the point and nock end and they are tough. Havent split one since I started using them.
It didn't stiffen up the arrow? I tried cladding the top 1-1/2" with aluminum but it threw everything off. Hmmm. Sounds interesting. I may just try it.
Parick - Nope...It did not seem to stiffen the arrow. They shot the same as my field tip arrows without the dowel rod. Matter of fact I think this would be a real good arrow for larger game. I bought the oak dowel rods at Lowes.
Ron
Carbons never stood-up to the termite mounds we stump shoot the way Douglas fir do.
Footing the end with a piece of aluiminum shaft that slides over the carbon and then epoxied seems a little easier. I foot all mine and have hit steel plates at 3 D shoots and came through just fine while every one else where pickiing up the pieces. I am not saying your method will not work it just seems like a lot of time spent getting it to fit. You could use the time saved and do more shooting. No doubt rubber blunts absorb a lot of the shock. It seems when I break a carbon these days it more in the middle of the shaft from maybe glancing of some thing.
Ben how are the termites on the wooden shafts versus carbons for food prefrence :goldtooth: .
Just put the dowel rods in a hand drill and run it through some rough sand paper....only took a few minutes per dowel. Glued them in with an instant glue with the insert and done.
Ron
There are times when you have to quickly grab the arrow out and brush it off in the grass. But mostly, the mounds are vacant.
I'm the same, I foot mine with about 1.5" of alloy shaft. After doing that they are almost indestructible. I've found gluing the inserts in with a good quality high strength epoxy also helps to stop the insert breaking free and mushrooming the end of the shaft.
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....mushrooming the end of the shaft.
That's the main reason I foot with aluminum. Haven't had that happen since I started using aluminum.
What size aluminum arrow should I use for a 5575 Goldtip?
I want something snug but not too tight.
Cloudbaseracer. Do a search. There was a long list of aluminum shaft that fit over carbond shaft sizes in a thread last year.
Mine have held up so far what little I have done. The time I had any issues I was in an old cedar thicket shooting old stumps around 8" diameter that had moss growing over all of them. I picked one out and let it fly, it made a wierd noise when it hit. Come to find out it was a piece of limestone with moss growing over it. LOL!
QuoteOriginally posted by cloudbaseracer:
What size aluminum arrow should I use for a 5575 Goldtip?
I want something snug but not too tight.
2216's work for 5575's
Here's a link with some more sizes:
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000098