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Title: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Ranger B on November 29, 2011, 05:15:00 PM
Well, there has been a good bit of talk lately on various forums about selfbows and wood arrows.  I decided to have a little fun and make a video making the case.  It was raining, windy, and even humorous.  I hope you enjoy.
    Selfbow video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwLmWIca3fY)
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: wv lungbuster on November 29, 2011, 05:25:00 PM
Great video and shooting Jimmy. Whats is the type of target that is supporting the wiffle ball,I've never seen one like it.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Ranger B on November 29, 2011, 05:28:00 PM
It's the blob.  The blob man comes to our shoots at Twin Oaks.  I've never googled him but those targets are nice.  You can shoot the dots or put up paper faces on them.  You can also shoot broadheads at them.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Looper on November 29, 2011, 05:30:00 PM
Nice shooting, but man, that bow is jumping around in your hand.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: fmscan on November 29, 2011, 05:45:00 PM
Ranger B, Nice shooting! If I could shoot that way I would use a selfbow and wood arrows too!
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 29, 2011, 06:19:00 PM
Looper selfbows more so than any other bow have to be able to move upon release. Some guys shoot loose gripped like Jimmy, some guys shoot with a "broke" elbow. The arrow pass is way out from center so the arrow needs help getting around it. Maybe Im preaching to the choir and you already knew that.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: ron w on November 29, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Nice job.....   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: S C Mercer on November 29, 2011, 07:18:00 PM
Great shooting w/ a self bow Jimmy!  You are a shooting MACHINE!  LOL!    ~Steve
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on November 29, 2011, 07:46:00 PM
I always like your videos   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Fritz on November 29, 2011, 07:53:00 PM
Great video! Quick question off topic. Have u ever stringwalked a selfbow or is that a big no-no?
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: flippnsticks on November 29, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
:clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Rob DiStefano on November 29, 2011, 07:59:00 PM
good shooting, jimmy!  and a nice, light, torque free grip on the bow hand so that it dances on release - that's the way to do it!
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Mudd on November 29, 2011, 08:06:00 PM
Nice video!!

Great shooting too.

Thanks for sharing.

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: PaddyMac on November 29, 2011, 08:09:00 PM
The suspense was equal to Hitchcock, how you gradually surrounded the poor whiffle ball, which literally quivered in fear, only to deliver the slivery coup de grace at the very end.

  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Ranger B on November 29, 2011, 08:12:00 PM
Fritz no.  It is almost impossible to do with a fixed limb (one piece) bow.  The arrow doesn't fly well and the limbtips are way out of sync.

PaddyMac - I was pretty pleased with the video.  Now I'm thrilled!  LOL
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Looper on November 29, 2011, 08:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by PEARL DRUMS:
Looper selfbows more so than any other bow have to be able to move upon release. Some guys shoot loose gripped like Jimmy, some guys shoot with a "broke" elbow. The arrow pass is way out from center so the arrow needs help getting around it. Maybe Im preaching to the choir and you already knew that.
Yeah, I know. I shot hickory self bows for many, many years before I ever bought a laminated bow. I use a much firmer grip and a bent bow arm, though. It works well for me and is really quiet.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Rob DiStefano on November 29, 2011, 08:25:00 PM
i shot with finger slings for years before switching to thumb/forefinger "sling".   :)
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Mark Baker on November 29, 2011, 08:40:00 PM
If you think it is tough convincing folks that selfbows and wood arrows can work now, you should have seen how tough it was 20 plus years ago.   I could'nt even convince custom bowyers (who will remain anonymous) that they were any good....the selfbows that is.   Thank God, Jay Massey kept a few of us so inclined to think we could do it!    Nice video, and a good job on all of them you've done the past couple years (at least the ones I've watched)!
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: mwosborn on November 29, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
Nice Video!  Makes me want to try some wood arrows.  Nice shooting too!
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Ranger B on November 30, 2011, 07:16:00 AM
Thanks again guys.  These bows are about as fun as it gets.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: cbCrow on November 30, 2011, 07:31:00 AM
Good video, and some real good shots!
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Butts2 on November 30, 2011, 07:49:00 AM
How many videos have you made? I belive I have watched at least 10? Many a couple X. I almost always pick up a nugget or two. Have incorporated 3 things that have improved me considerably. I like these...alot. Oh yeah ..great shooting  :notworthy:    ;)
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Pat B. on November 30, 2011, 07:51:00 AM
Would you happen to have links to other videos you've done?

This one is great!

Tell us about you're bow spec's and arrow spine.

Really fine shooting.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: zipper bowss on November 30, 2011, 08:11:00 AM
:thumbsup:   I enjoyed that video!Thanks for sharing it. Dang wiffel balls!!!!They cant hold still, always jumping around,dodging arrows,and generally just being smart alicks!@!Good shooting
Bill
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Ranger B on November 30, 2011, 08:12:00 AM
The easiest way to see all 46 of them is to go to this site and then you can click on the list on the right to see them all.  Otherwise I can put up some more links.  

http://www.youtube.com/user/jimmyblackmon?feature=mhee
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Ranger B on November 30, 2011, 08:16:00 AM
The bow is a 66" osage bow.  It is 40# @ 27" That tree was cut on Denny Sturgis's farm and it's an inner stave.  There was 40 years of growth on top of the back ring of the bow.  I am shooting a 10 strand D-10 string that A.S. (Allen Shaffer) made.  I am shooting sitka spruce arrows.  They are barrelled shafts with 125 gr. point and 5" RW helical feathers.  I shoot a lot of other arrows but these are what I am toying with to shoot in 3D shoots next year.  I made a winged elm bow that is 43# and fortunately it shoots the same shafts as this bow.  

This bow is cut to 1/4" outside center.  The arrows are 50-55# spined.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Tater on November 30, 2011, 08:24:00 AM
Great Shooting.!
 
   Thanks for sharing the video.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Pat B. on November 30, 2011, 08:37:00 AM
Thank you for the info...

I'm going to have to watch more of your vids as I get time..

What do you find the barreled shafts offer over parallel ?  I'm surprised you can shoot 50-55's out of a bow that's 1/4" off center..
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Ranger B on November 30, 2011, 08:57:00 AM
Pat they are full length so a general rule of thumb is that you get 5# per inch past 28"  so a 32" would be in the ballpark of  30-35#  I got decent flight from 57# shafts but it's too hard to get shafts that are that close without buying 100 and sorting through them.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: RM81 on November 30, 2011, 09:40:00 AM
Another great video.  Thanks for sharing it.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Ratslayer on November 30, 2011, 09:49:00 AM
I really like your bow did you make it yourself.What kind of wood is that osage right.What is the right way to shoot them I hold mine side ways a little is that right.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: snag on November 30, 2011, 10:11:00 AM
Those plastic wiffle balls just don't inspire a trad man....once you got some animals or birds in front of you you were cookin'...haha  Very nice bow, good shooting. Especially at over 25 yds with a wind! Still working on making one I can hunt with.
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Ranger B on December 06, 2011, 06:44:00 AM
Ratslayer you should shoot your self bow just like any other bow. It should not be shot differently. It is a bow.

Yes, I make them and this one is Osage
Title: Re: A case for selfbow and wood (video)
Post by: Thumper Dunker on December 06, 2011, 03:49:00 PM
Great vidio. Good shooting.  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup: