I'm looking for an alternative to the Snuffers I've used for years. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get the "new" snuffers (Magnus) as sharp as the older ones and I'm down to my last two "old" snuffers (Delta). I'm digging the shape of the Simmons two-blade heads and I've read and heard good things about them. I'm currently shooting 125gr snuffers with 100gr inserts for a total of 225gr up front. The Landshark comes in 125gr so that would be an easy switch without (hopefully) having to tune again. The Treeshark is only 190gr, so would require a bit more work.
Now for my question: does anyone have hunting experience with both the Landshark and Treeshark models and have an opinion of which performs better? I don't mind spending a bit on new inserts, etc to get the Treeshark tuned but would only want to do so if there's a good reason not to use the Landsharks.
Hope this wasn't too wordy. Thanks for any input.
Rusty
There is 2 landsharks a 125 and a 165. The 125 is to narrow IMO. I like the full size 1 9/16 width simmons.
Lots of options with glue on and diff adaptor weights. A 150gr vented Interseptor with 75gr adaptor keeps you at 225.
I killed a doe a few weeks ago with one of the 165 grain Landsharks. I was impressed with the performance.
If you want additional info after this topic runs its course, check the Georgia Outdoor News traditional archery forum. A guy on there has posted a good bit this year about the Tree Shark. Leaves one HECK of a hole!!!!
Do they make the dreaded "hissing noise" in flight?
The only hissing is of blood leaving the critter under pressure LOL.
I have shot both treesharks and interceptors with great success. This year I have shot Razorcaps and have really been inpressed with them. They are stainless and stay sharp and are MUCH tougher than they look. You could go with a 200 grain option in them. BILL
QuoteOriginally posted by kevgsp:
The only hissing is of blood leaving the critter under pressure LOL.
:laughing:
Thanks for the input guys. I've seen some pics of deer shot with the treesharks and it looks like you just need to get close and they're deadly.
Anxious to hear more.
Rusty
Give a shout to Landshark 160 on here.
QuoteOriginally posted by awbowman:
Give a shout to Landshark 160 on here.
His were some of the pics I was referring to. Looked like he stuck those deer with a bastard sword!
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Bullfrog, I take it that's from a Treeshark? You Treeshark shooters ever have problems with a crosswind vs a smaller broadhead? That thing looks like a kite.
Rusty
Rusty , that was actually with an Interceptor. I think they are the best compromise for a 2 blade. BILL
Frog, that's impressive! I really like the look of the Interceptors. Seems a nice "middle ground" between the Treeshark and Landshark.
Thanks again, guys.
I shoot the TreeSharks with 125gr adapters and love them , I shoot Bear T/Ds 99% of the time in the 65# give or take range with a GoldTip 75/95 and big feathers also.The only noise they make is when they hit and when they do it sounds so good. Have had very good luck with them and the blood trails are for the most very short and very very easy to follow you can look at my ( So Far 2011 ) in the Highlights and see how they have been for me.Good luck I think you will like them........
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I have been shooting treesharks for several years and love them. I also have some landsharks, but prefer the wider treesharks. Talk about a blood trail!!
I'm shooting the 100 grain Land Sharks. I've not spilled blood with em yet. However, the link below will show you that these broadheads fly lazer straight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ei7baXRmDM
I shoot the tree sharks and love em! When I first shot them at a target in a stiff crosswind I compensated when I aimed only to watch my arrow go exactly where it would have gone with no wind(at 30 yards nonetheless)! I had to clean the dirt off the blade and after that I just ignored the wind completely unless it is gale force.(warning: I shoot ~730 grain arrows with 350 up front. so that plays into the equation)
Thanks for that, Thumpkin. Much heavier arrow than I'm shooting but no change is no change and I can't imagine there being a ton of difference in a ~500gr arrow, especially since I rarely shoot past 15 yards. Of course, I have a new-to-me Dale Dye on its way to me so I'll likely be tuning at the end of the season anyway. Going to stick with the last few snuffers this season.
Thanks again, guys.
Rusty
I shoot the Interceptors,Landsharks and sometimes a tree shark out of bows 50@27 or less with arrows from 550-500 grains and usually shoot thru everything.Chris Spikes "Landshark 160" Shoots a lot more poundage but has killed Critters with arrows under 500 grains with a Hill bow and Simmons heads.RC
I shoot the little 100 gr. landsharks and they have the same size cut as a Magnus or Zephyr for instance. Nobody would question how those heads have worked over the years. I shoot those heads as well and the little Simmons head just flies great. If you are just after deer and turkeys, you should have no problems whatsoever. Very easy to sharpen with just a steel out of your knife drawer, a few strokes and you are done. I mount mine on a Gold Tip so that when I cant my bow they are horizontal. Have a good season. DI
Ive used the tigersharks and love em. Never seen so much blood spilled with a two blade. Every shark seems to fly dead on as long as they spin true which isnt a problem.
Hard to beat the tree sharks, amazing head! They shoot great for me, 3 5 inch dura vanes, no problem out to 40.
I killed my Bull Elk this past September with 160 Glue-on Interceptor (non-vented) and then a Antelope buck with a 135 (vented) glue on Tiger-Shark. Last night I shot a WT doe with the Interceptor. Had a great blood trail which was nice because I only sliced the bottom /back of the heart and got one lung so she went a ways. My only negative is I dont like the noise (call it a whooosh) that all vented heads seem to make. So I prefer the Non-vented glue on 160 Interceptor. I think it may be the best of the bunch. In flight...it is night and day difference between the noise these two heads make. Game alarming noise!!!
My arrows are around 550 gn. Bow is 54 lbs @29". Steel broadhead adapters are used in 100 or 125 to make a 250 gn head plus aluminum insert.
Also...the 160 gn Interceptors actually weigh 150 although the owner said he may get them back to an actual 160 in the future. Something in the grind etc reduced weight from the past heads. No big deal. I like the 150 final weight anyway.
ive been playing around with the big treesharks, and have not noticed any noise with them.
I've shot Simmons heads since 1990, and have never noticed noise from any head, be it Interceptor, Landshark, Tigershark, or Treeshark. Even out of compounds at around 270 fps. I've also shot the original Interceptors, and Safaris, which aren't vented, and can't tell any difference in the sound.
No noise from my Tigersharks either. Sweet heads!
Don't forget about the new TigerShark 175 gr. screw-in. http://simmonssharks.com
I have hunted the Land Shark, Tree Shark, and Tiger Shark ... great heads and I do not hear any noise. The Simmons Steel Master is a great sharpening tool, even I can get a scary sharp edge on my Sharks with it, and I suck at sharpening !! For me much better than the steel eating wheelie sharpener, I really suck at that thing.
Just got to shootin some 2inch tree sharks today and they flew absolutely awesome! With one doe tag left I cant wait to see the red snow!
I switched to Treesharks, and I've never been disappointed with them. They leave some big holes!!
Their cost is not bad either!!
Joe