:wavey: Ok Folks I know, I know another climbing tree stand thread. :biglaugh:
The seat on the Open Shot is very comfortable,it's the platform I don't like because of its size.4",length wise,makes a big difference when you're 20' in the air.
The cams that lock the bands on the Lone Wolf can be a pain to open,on the climber that is.It's rock solid when you set it up though.
Hopes this helps a little.Ken
Well I'll be the first to step in it. Based on just getting rid of an open shot and buying a second LW hand climber combo this is my opinion from using both. With all summit climbers your adjustment is very limited. Your adjustment is limited to the swaged stops on the cable. If the tree you want to set up in is under 12" at the base the climbing aid or base for that matter will pointing down hill by the time you get to any height.
The LW hand climber will adjust to smaller and larger trees and adjusts much easier if you need to change it as you climb. The LW hand climber also does not have arms on the side of the seat and will fold completely out of the way. You are stuck with the arms on the summit.
You can also get closer to the tree with the LW either in the down or folded position, plus the LW folds flat for packing. The LW has better bite on the tree. I rode the summit down a Beech tree this year, that hasn't happened since I got rid of my Baker eons ago. The wolf bites anything. The extra money for the LW is just plain worth it but that is just MHO.
While using my Summit climber I bring along an API lock on seat. After climbing I turn the climbing aid to the back of the tree and pull up the API seat. It makes for a lot of extra work and additional weight to carry in but makes the stand very comfortable and a lot more effective with nothing in my way.
I like the looks of the Summitt Open Shot but I'll stick with my old API climber. It's very similar to the Open Shot but it has a bike chain around the back instead of a cable. With a simple lock pin the adjustments are infinite. It's served me well for years.
Tom, after combining the loggy base and the Lone Wolf hand climber top there is no doubt I'm getting the Lone Wolf base.I'm saving my pennies and keeping a eye on the classifieds. One day come over and try it.
The lone wolf stap on the base gets stuck on the back of the tree
Im going to keep my eye on this thread too.I been thinking about a climber.Kinda looking at the open shot.
I purchased a lonewolf climber and it's going back to cabelas (found an old loggy ) climbs but sits like a hang-on.
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Sold my Lone Wolf. Have 2 Summit Vipers. Safe to climb and rock solid. Replaced the foam seat on one with a net seat and really comfy and gives more room. I have no problems with a 64" longbow. The Summit will also climb bigger trees than the Lone Wolf.
I've had the strap on my lonewolf to hang on the tree bark too. Everytime it happened was when I first got into the stand to climb. I had the angle set too steep on the base portion of the stand and my weight got it jamed on the tree. I found out if I adjust the angle properly, I don't have a problem with the strap hanging on the bark. It only happened with me on the very first lifting of the stand. I've never had a hang up further up the tree.
The lone wolf wide seat will not climb as big a tree as my API and with the seat sticking out(unable to fold flat to the tree)I could not shoot a deer to the side/rear without hitting my limb. I also had the belt get hung up on ruff bark and it made more noise than my API or summit climbers. I did like the weight and fold flat to carry BUT it's in the tree that matters. Prehaps the reg lone wolf would be better BUT I need a sit down climber. The loggys (I had one way back before lone wolf was in around)Climbs but you have a seat like a hang on or the older open shot so no seat in the way issues :archer2:
I have used both Lone Wolf climbers I borrowed from friends to try out and did not like them. I bought a Summit Open Shot climbing stand and find it light, safe, secure, and the seat the most comfortable. I like to stand as much as possible and like the way the seat raises out of the way. The only negative thing I would say is the seat could be wilder for climbing (safety harness catches on sides)purposes. (I am 6' 220#)
Jim, where did you get a mesh seat to install in the viper. I have one and that sounds like a great idea.
I agree with Widow's son. I have an API that's very similar to the open shot, and I love it. I also have a Lone Wolf hand climber. They're both great stands. The API is just more comfortable. TRW
I got the net seat here.
http://www.hazmore.net/
They also make em for Lone Wolf.
I cut the seat portion off of the back on the summit seat and attach it to the tree for a back rest. It works and is comfortable.
I have both the LW and the BushMaster. I prefer the Summit. The LW hand climber is too narrow for me to rest my forearms on while climbing. For me, the Bushmaster is easier to climb with and "much" more comfortable.
heydeerman, thanks for the tip, just ordered a net seat for my Summit to try.....
I have shoulder and neck problems. So I have to use a climber that I can use sit and clime method. The Summit Razor fits the bill for me. I can use the bar to climb with and then move it out of the way. Very comfortable and safe stand.
The first time I sat in a Lone Wolf Alpha.....i sold all of my climbers! My LW will go in any tree a climber will and millions more!
For those who use the LW hand climber: if the seat is too small for your elbows, buy a carabiner and some webbing from a climbing store. Attach it to the front of the seat and use it as a sit and climb. I'm to fat to lean on my arms but the webbing tied to one side and the carabiner on the other works very well!
I love how light the stand is and how fast I can climb a tree.
I need to work on the seat next. Or should I say on the size of my seat. :) I think that would help me more...
Martin