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Title: momentum
Post by: 5deer on November 25, 2011, 04:43:00 PM
new from alaska bow supply the grizzly stik momentum shafts - has enyone tried these? how is the nock? is a $100 for six too much? your thoughts.     :archer:    5
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Post by: Big Ed on November 25, 2011, 04:48:00 PM
Wow, sounds expensive.
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Post by: smokin joe on November 25, 2011, 05:07:00 PM
Yikes!!!!!!    :scared:    :scared:    :scared:
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Post by: wollelybugger on November 25, 2011, 05:11:00 PM
A little over $16  a arrow, a little more than I would spend but they might be worth it.
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Post by: on November 25, 2011, 05:15:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by smokin joe:
Yikes!!!!!!     :scared:      :scared:      :scared:  
Ditto!!!!
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Post by: Margly on November 25, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
Hmmm sounds like Norwegian prices         :p  

But the Grizzlysticks got a good word on them!
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Post by: non-typical on November 25, 2011, 06:44:00 PM
Sounds like they zero in with a nice group on your wallet. Ain't a damned arrow out there worth that much for everyday hunting IMHO.
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Post by: Ground Hunter on November 25, 2011, 07:11:00 PM
Hunting Rhino?  Try some Douglas Fur.
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Post by: sweeney3 on November 25, 2011, 08:03:00 PM
I have heard good things about them, that they perform well.  But, I'm all for all so far when I hit critters with my current stuff, sooooooo..........?  

If I ever get to the point where I can afford to go to cool places and hunt huge, tough, dangerous game, then I'll be able to afford top of the line stuff to do it with.  But as long as I am hunting tiny deer and small game on little parcles of public and private land in the south and midwest, where we are short on cape buffalo and tigers and polar bears, I'll stick with my wood/cane/low end carbon shafts and just take short shots that I am reasonably sure I can make.
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Post by: jsweka on November 25, 2011, 08:52:00 PM
Too much for me.  My woodies shoot better than I can shoot them.
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Post by: dnovo on November 25, 2011, 08:53:00 PM
I just got a new catalog from them. You can get a 6 pack of fletched arrows (the U-FOC ones) for about  $130. then add 6 of the Ashby broadheads at 3 for $110.  You can be outfitted with 6 complete arrows for only $350.
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Post by: Trad-Man on November 25, 2011, 09:16:00 PM
Where do I sign up?
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Post by: Ragnarok Forge on November 25, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
Not worth the price at all.  They switched to having the arrows made in China.   Everyone loved the old shafts made in America.   Everyone I know who has owned the new shafts has gotten rid of them.  The shafts made in China live up to Chinas reputation for quality products.  $130 for 6 shafts is ridiculous pricing for substandard shafts.
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Post by: David Yukon on November 26, 2011, 02:07:00 AM
I agree with Ragnarok, I have some of the old shaft and the new one... never again. I like the taper on them, and the weight, but won't buy any of these any more, to expensive!! I love Surewood shaft!!
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Post by: b44mag on November 26, 2011, 02:31:00 AM
ill say this
when i feel the need to spend 350.00 on 6 arrows.
i would like one of you guys to drive over here and smack me. im just saying.
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Post by: stujay on November 26, 2011, 02:43:00 AM
too much for me!
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Post by: bama on July 30, 2012, 02:11:00 PM
just got six for upcoming elk hunt.  love them
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Post by: Glunt on July 30, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
The market will dictate if they  are worth it or not in the big scheme of things.  Not worth it to me as there are all kinds of other choices that accomplish whats necessary for less money.  Plain old GT blems have everything I can afford to hunt covered and are about 1/4 of the cost.

That said, I wish them luck.  Guys buying expensive arrows is a good sign for the economy.
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Post by: Don Batten on July 30, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
the new momentum shafts are a great shaft. twice as good as the regular grizzly stick. they are made in fla, not china. they have no stiff side like the older shafts and I have found them very consistant lot to lot, which I did not with the originals. you can cry about the price  but you won't nod about a 1000 dollar bow. It's the arrow that does the job not the bow. I know , the 4 dollar for 6 are flying great and you have killed a ton of stuff with it. If you've had good luck with the cheaper stuff (and I have) then go with it ,but don't put down  a product because it cost more if you have not tried it.
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Post by: atatarpm on July 30, 2012, 11:17:00 PM
To Don Batten, nailed it , point on sir!  Ric
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Post by: Gooserbat on July 31, 2012, 12:53:00 AM
If they are like the tapered ones they make expensive but functional tomato stakes.
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Post by: atatarpm on July 31, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
What I've read they are made by Win&Win Archery and they make top line archery products.
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Post by: atatarpm on July 31, 2012, 02:35:00 AM
What I've read they are made by Win&Win Archery and they make top line archery products.
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Post by: ChuckC on July 31, 2012, 12:00:00 PM
On the other hand, I am not likely to lose my bow in the woods every time I shoot it.  Where I hunt, in the marsh, from the ground, a shot arrow is likely gone.  At 50-60 dollars a pop. .  no thanks.

I am sure they are great. .  and I have an example Ashby head, so I KNOW they are very well manufactured and designed.  But, I am too poor to afford them.
ChuckC
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Post by: bama on July 31, 2012, 02:33:00 PM
If they save me one deer in 10 they are worth 5 times the price.   Not saying that they will but I'm going to try them.
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Post by: Tedd on July 01, 2014, 09:12:00 PM
TTT, how do you like these now. After a few years on the market? I think I'm going to order 6 of the 65-80 (now called the 330)
So the momentum is actually lighter than the originals? So you can make it high FOC?
I don't seem to loose as many arrows as I used to. I'm sure I'll loose em like crazy if I buy the Grizzlystiks! I think I can keep myself under 18 shafts a year if I don't shoot at many groundhogs. I often lose shafts when I'm testing and adjusting.
Tedd
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Post by: Tedd on November 08, 2014, 03:18:00 PM
Anyone using these Grizzly Stick Momentum Shafts?
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Post by: Diamond Paul on November 08, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
That's high, about the price of an ACC arrow, give or take.  You might try the Heavy Hunter shafts (Gold Tip, I think?) instead.  They are about 150 a dozen, or something close.
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Post by: Friend on November 08, 2014, 04:28:00 PM
Pricey!
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Post by: Hot Hap on November 08, 2014, 10:00:00 PM
Dnovo-you forgot your lighted nocks-Hap
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Post by: Tedd on November 09, 2014, 09:32:00 AM
I'm not sure what kind of responses these are??
The question is about the performance of the Grizzly stick momentum carbon shaft. To see if anyone tried them before I spent the $ on a set.
I currently use AD traditional tapered shafts. I'd like to know if there is a second source of similar shafting and I'm wondering what set-ups work or don't work.
Getting correct shafts is a challenge for me. I have a long draw length that excludes almost all wood shafts without some modification. (The cost of making and maintaining footed wood shafts is just as expensive as grizzly stick over the long run)
The long draw seems to make carbon arrow set up very critical and temperamental. Tuning can be difficult when you can't cut off the shaft. It can be really hard to get good arrow flight with a weight of broadhead that is practical. Constant testing wears equipment and looses arrows. The tapered shafts work the best for my application. The AD shafts vary in spine from batch to batch. I can usually move the point weight around to get them tuned. If there was a better quality shaft i would try it. As for the cost...actually being able to use the shafts I purchase and have them work well would be a real bargain for me. I have dozens parallel carbons sitting in the corner only slightly used.
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Post by: chinook907 on November 09, 2014, 05:48:00 PM
I just spoke to Ed S with ABS the other day about them. I usually shoot Alaskans and like them but am getting a new to me bow and will switch shafts to momentum's now. But no I haven't ordered/received/used them yet. I like the Alaskans but these sound better.
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Post by: Tedd on November 09, 2014, 07:02:00 PM
Thanks Chinkook. Let me know how they work for you and what your findings are.
I'm going to order 6 of the momentum .250 spine.  My Arrow Dynamics currently measure .250 spine on my wall hanging spine tester.
I'm not sure how accurate that spine tester is.
Right now my Arrow Dynamics are shooting very well with a 100 gr insert and 175 VPA.
I'm hoping the Grizzly Stick does the same thing.
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Post by: last arrow on November 10, 2014, 04:03:00 PM
Tedd, be aware that it is difficult to get an accurate spine with a tapered shaft.  I slight shift in where the shaft is located in the tester can make a big difference, so make sure you are being consistent with each shaft.  Also, it is unlikely that the Grizzly stick people are positioning the shaft the same as you are in thier tester so you may have to adjust after you get one.  If you can, I would get a test shaft to try first.