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Title: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: zipper bowss on November 23, 2011, 08:44:00 AM
You tell me. I have always thought 3 per package is plenty, but Grizzly's have always been 6 per pack. What would you like to see. 3 per package or 6 per package?
Bill
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: wingnut on November 23, 2011, 08:50:00 AM
Bill,

It really depends on price.  I like to see the overall price of the package at less then $30.  

Mike
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 23, 2011, 08:51:00 AM
I look at it like this, I will make either a half dozen arrows at a time or a dozen and it would be easier to buy one pack for the six at a time.Its kinda like hotdogs 10 per pack and only 8 buns in a pack you feel obligated to by another pack of buns so not to leave the other dogs out. So have a six pack of heads and you feel like you spent less. its all psycological in the end.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: ssoden on November 23, 2011, 08:52:00 AM
6pk  please
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: mcgroundstalker on November 23, 2011, 08:55:00 AM
A 6-pack sounds good to me... Four for hunting and two for practice.....  :archer2:

... mike ...
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Shawn Leonard on November 23, 2011, 08:57:00 AM
I like 6, I can use 2 or 3 as practice heads and the other 3 as my hunting heads. I can sharpen pretty good but still like a head that has not been shot into dirt or a block a hundred times and than shapened to hunt with, much rather have 3 extra as my hunters. Snuffers come in 6 packs and I like that. I am shooting VPA's and they are a 3 pack(pricey too, but maybe a tad of a discount for buying 6)I end up buying two 3 packs at a time for reasons mentioned! Shawn
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: 2treks on November 23, 2011, 09:05:00 AM
Bill,Who takes just three BH's to the field?
I do,sometimes.
My bigest thing with BH's is this. 6/pack
3-mounted for practice
3-mounted and SHARP for hunting.
If I go out of town for a hunt then I take 6-12 arrows for hunting and 3-6 more for practice.
AND the cost should be around $30/6(please)
Thats my story and I am stickin' to it.

CTT
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Kapellmeister on November 23, 2011, 09:08:00 AM
I don't understand what the problem is with buying (2) 3-packs if you want (6) broadheads.    :confused:
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: on November 23, 2011, 09:14:00 AM
The only reason they went to 3 per pack is because the price has gone up on a lot of Bh's and they know people will cringe at the higher price for 6.

Bosch
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: flyfish1 on November 23, 2011, 09:18:00 AM
as said above, 4 heads in quiver, 2 for practice shots. I even carry one of the practice heads in quiver so I can send a shot into a stump from stand etc... 6 per pack definately
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: RM81 on November 23, 2011, 09:19:00 AM
I agree with Bisch.  If the price is higher, you may do better selling 3 packs.  If you keep a 6 pack under $30 you'd sell a ton of them.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: 2treks on November 23, 2011, 09:20:00 AM
I guess it would be no problem Gene,good point.
From a buyers stand point, I like the value of a six pack.
From a manufacturing stand point, It cuts your cost of Packaging In Half. Thats a good thing.

CTT
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: snag on November 23, 2011, 09:26:00 AM
Good point Chuck. As buyers we sometimes don't look at the other side of the fence...the manufacturer. If it will cost less to package 6 to a pack and that savings is passed on to the buyer that is the way to go. Even if you don't use all 6 right away I bet you will soon enough!
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Gen273 on November 23, 2011, 09:30:00 AM
I like a six pack, That way I can use two as practice heads and four for hunting.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Stumpkiller on November 23, 2011, 09:33:00 AM
I usually buy 12 at a time, so six is fine.

But if the sticker says $30 or more there better be a bunch more than three in the package.     :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: legends1 on November 23, 2011, 09:36:00 AM
I think i would rather do a 6-pak at a time.Price isnt really a issue because they cost the same in the long run anyway.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on November 23, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
The only reason they went to 3 per pack is because the price has gone up on a lot of Bh's and they know people will cringe at the higher price for 6.

Bosch
Exactly correct. It's a way to try making people feel like they're not spending as much as they really are.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Night Wing on November 23, 2011, 10:33:00 AM
I always prefer a 6 pack.       :thumbsup:      

With a 3 pack, I'd use one broadhead for experimentation on a target. That would leave me 2 broadheads for an actual bowhunt.

That works great if I'm bowhunting from the house, but if I'm on a 3 day package bowhunt 500 miles from my home out in the far west or south Texas boonies, I want more than 2 shootable sharp broadheads in my quiver.

Also, with a 6 pack, on a long trip, I want one 6 pack package to take with me. With a 3 pack, I'd have to carry two, 3 packs. Knowing me, if I lose or misplace one 3 pack, I'm down to the lone remaining 3 pack.

I like the old adage. "Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it".       :D
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Shawn Leonard on November 23, 2011, 10:42:00 AM
I also will say that it would be darn near impossible to keep a 6pk. under $30. I would buy a lot more VPA's for example if they were $50 for a six pack. Shawn
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: FarmerMarley on November 23, 2011, 12:10:00 PM
I think a 6 pack is better.

Even though I am not on the manufacturing end of things, I always think about wasted packaging, wasted space, wasted energy, etc...

At the same time I do understand the psychological aspects. People are more likely to buys something in a smaller package if it is an expensive item...but in the end it doesn't really help anybody. Unless it is a broadhead that you have never tried before and want to test it out for the first time.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: cacciatore on November 23, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
I prefere a 6 pack..
Think about this:if they are priced good I gonna buy maybe 36,if they are priced too hight maybe I buy 6 or just one pack of 3,where do you gain more and where the customer will be more satisfied?
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: stalkin4elk on November 23, 2011, 12:32:00 PM
I agree with the other 6 pack ideas but also don't want to pay SHIPPING twice on seperate orders of 3 packs.I'd rather have the 3 extras from the first order than feel the need to order three more. I'd like an optional 12 pack as well.
High dollar shipping on small orders just bugs me. My quirks...
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Mark Baker on November 23, 2011, 12:42:00 PM
If I HAD to pay 10 bucks/broadhead...then I'd like to buy a one-pack to try it out first.  Personally, I think costs of these things is getting ridiculous!  I like the "old style" 6-packers, that have been around awhile.   I know they work, and the prices have'nt gotten out of control yet.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: VTer on November 23, 2011, 12:51:00 PM
I'm with Bisch and Mark Baker on this.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: MJB on November 23, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
6 pack   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Canyon on November 23, 2011, 01:06:00 PM
I like 6 packs but I guess this depends on your marketing strategy. Are you planning to make money by volume sales or through lower sales and higher mark-up? I would love to keep shooting Grizzlies but will not pay much more than what has been their normal price. I have been very happy with a comparable head for a little less money.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Doc Nock on November 23, 2011, 01:35:00 PM
Correct bevel. Dead Sharp outa the pack.

I pay $50/6pack that are both...25* bevel and so sharp outa the pack they come dipped in saw blade protective rubber to protect the edge and not kill the postman/woman (including you Killy).  :)
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: maxwell on November 23, 2011, 01:40:00 PM
Some broadheads are more expensive than others, those need to be three per pack or just to costly.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Javi on November 23, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
The only reason they went to 3 per pack is because the price has gone up on a lot of Bh's and they know people will cringe at the higher price for 6.

Bisch
I agree, and I'm not usually going to buy the more expensive BH's when the less expensive kill just as dead..
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: PaddyMac on November 23, 2011, 01:48:00 PM
It's not a big deal, but I prefer a 6-pk. because as lpcjon said, I just do things in dozens and half dozens.

From a retailing standpoint, 3-packing is a pricing issue on more expensive heads to lower the perceived cost of the item by cutting the quantity, when usually, in reality, smaller qty packing = greater cost. Durable goods purchases are often more emotional than rational, which is why that works.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: TOEJAMMER on November 23, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
Ditto on the 6 pack for the already mentioned reasons.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: awbowman on November 23, 2011, 01:53:00 PM
I don't buy less than 6 at a time (first time for new head) because if I use one for practice, that only leaves me two. After that I buy 3 or 6, whichever it is packaged in.

I do see the validity of packaging in 3s though.  You can always buy two packs, then only one thereafter.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Stumpkiller on November 23, 2011, 01:54:00 PM
QuoteI agree, and I'm not usually going to buy the more expensive BH's when the less expensive kill just as dead..

There's probably like 4,000 professionally manufactured broadhead design variations so far.  There will always be someone who hopes to buy success, and certainly plenty who propose to market it.  ;-)
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: zipper bowss on November 23, 2011, 02:06:00 PM
WOW! I am very surprised with the number of folks that want a 6 pack.I did not expect it to be this decisive.I am sure glad I asked.

As I have said before there is no need to worry about a huge price increase on the Grizzly broad heads. There will be an increase. An increase in price is unavoidable. At this time it still looks like the increase will be in the area of $1 per head. I should know for sure within the next couple of weeks.
Bill
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Kevin Winkler on November 23, 2011, 02:15:00 PM
I like to buy 6 at at a time, but I understand the marketing aspect also. I guess if it was business I would go with the 3pk. If you want more....just buy more.

I do have to agree, that if I was buying a broadhead to try out I would prefer to just buy only 3 at a time.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Rick Wiltshire on November 23, 2011, 02:30:00 PM
3-pack for me.  That way if I want to use different heads I do not have the investment required of a 6-pack.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: amicus on November 23, 2011, 02:47:00 PM
I like 6 at a time.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on November 23, 2011, 03:07:00 PM
6 per pack.   I refuse to pay for the extra packaging and avoid three pack sellers for that reason.   I on the other hand would gladly pay $40 for a 6 pack of grizzlies that are ground all the way to the edge.  The time saving in final sharpening would be worth the extra cost.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: KHALVERSON on November 23, 2011, 03:20:00 PM
bill a six pack would be great
and if only a buck a head increase thats still a good value
kevin
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: jsweka on November 23, 2011, 03:41:00 PM
How about a 6 pack at a 3 pack price.  Now that would sell!
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: BAK on November 23, 2011, 04:17:00 PM
I also agree that there should be no reason to pay more than 4 to 5 dollars each for a broadhead.  More than that and they stay on the shelf.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Sharpster on November 23, 2011, 06:34:00 PM
Can't I buy just 1 at a time???  :biglaugh:

Ron
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Dave Pagel on November 23, 2011, 06:37:00 PM
6 pack.  I usually carry four in my quiver so 3 does me little good.

D.P.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: ChuckC on November 23, 2011, 06:42:00 PM
I agree, the only reason that some are in three packs is because folks would absolutely not buy as many six packs at 60 - 200 dollars a hit.

I think a six pack is the right number to have, but,  well, I guess everything is more expensive now days.  Buy up those big Z's while they are available at $24/6 or whatever it turns out to be.

Bill a modest increase will go unnoticed, but a huge jump, like I am seeing in a lot of heads, means I buy fewer, or find a new head, and there are plenty out there.

I am certain that some of the heads available are awesome, the best out there, but I don't need the best when even a moderate head is awesome on deer sized critters.  I will never get to shoot an elephant or a water or cape buffalo.

ChuckC
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Shawn Leonard on November 23, 2011, 06:46:00 PM
Never shot the grizzlies but have the Snuffers for a long time, again 6 just makes more sense from the hunting aspect. I have probably 30 Snuffers but started shooting the VPA's recently and they are a great head but at almost $15 a piece I may have to go back to snuffers. Javi is right lots of less expensive heads get the job done, but in my case the VPA's are easy to sharpen and a tough as nails head so maybe in the long run a head that holds up as well as the grizzlies or VPA's may be the better investment. If ya package in 3 you could maybe offer a slight discount for a multiple package purchase. Shawn
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: RRock on November 23, 2011, 06:46:00 PM
I like Grizzly's and I like the number 6. Nice even number. Please, please, please, grind them all the way to the end and the same angle.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: emac396 on November 23, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
I'm impatient when can I order I have a new sharpener and cant wait to use it on my new Grizzly's. I will take a doz left bevels and don't care if it takes 4 packs or 2 I am just happy to be able to buy them again.

               Ed
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: LimBender on November 23, 2011, 08:36:00 PM
Used to think 3, until I brought 4 heads on out of town hunt, lost 1 bh and bent another.  My next bhs will be 2 3 packs or a 6 pack.  Seems you get a little more bang for the buck with a 6 pack - like buying TP at Sams.  :p

Hopefully on price most people would do the division and compare to a 3 pack.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: LPM on November 23, 2011, 08:53:00 PM
I like six packs,  I happen to love the biggest magnus four blade heads and I don't mind having extras.  

Let's face it.  Three packs came along when broadheads started becomming over priced
trendy things.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Fletcher on November 23, 2011, 10:44:00 PM
Six for me too, Bill.  BTW, Thanks for taking these on.  I didn't want to have to do it.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Thumper Dunker on November 23, 2011, 11:35:00 PM
I do not care about the price if it not crazy but I can go through alot of arrows in a day varmit hunting. I want a twelve pack  :knothead:  Six pacs are good.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: karrow on November 23, 2011, 11:37:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by mcgroundstalker:
A 6-pack sounds good to me... Four for hunting and two for practice.....   :archer2:  

... mike ...
yep
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: chopx2 on November 24, 2011, 12:41:00 PM
guess 3 or 6 if the price is also a multiple and not cost more per head.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Tradbear55 on November 24, 2011, 12:57:00 PM
I would definitely buy the 6 pack, better to have to many than not enough.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Steve H. on November 24, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
3 packs of broadheads is solely a way to reduce sticker shock for hyper-inflatedly priced heads.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: xtrema312 on November 24, 2011, 01:20:00 PM
3 for me unless there is a real decent price break for 6. Otherwise I will get two 3's when I want more. I have been going to more high quality heads. I don't want to drop $60+ to try a head out. Once I try and like, I don't want to have to get 6 more.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Adam Keiper on November 24, 2011, 06:53:00 PM
I usually buy 6 or 12 broadheads at a time.  So, a six pack for me, please.  Three packs would just add extra cost due to lower volume and packaging.  I also stick with the <$30 per six brands.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Ben Maher on November 24, 2011, 10:49:00 PM
What Steve H said ...
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Clark II on November 25, 2011, 06:48:00 AM
6
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: String Cutter on November 25, 2011, 08:56:00 AM
I have noticed that most of us shoot left wing feathers. Might be a good thing to maybe run a pole  and see weather to make 75% of your BH Left beveled?? Can't wait for you to start selling them again.... They are in good hands.   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: zipper bowss on November 25, 2011, 09:23:00 AM
String Cutter
Vintage Archer did a survey some time back.If I remember right the results showed nearly 50/50 on left/right wing feathers.I believed he also mentioned selling slightly more right bevel than left.
At this point my plan is to grind them 60 percent of the broad heads right bevel and 40 percent of them left bevel.It should not be too long now before we have some heads available.
Bill
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: cacciatore on November 25, 2011, 09:46:00 AM
Bill, double check it!!!
How is not too long?  :pray:
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: zipper bowss on November 25, 2011, 09:51:00 AM
Have I missed something, Felix?Your bow should be done next week.I gotta put the skins on yet and finish the riser.

I have a couple of thousand heads being brazed next week. Then temper, paint and grind.I want to say they will be ready within a month, BUT that is just my best guess.
Bill
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: cacciatore on November 25, 2011, 10:09:00 AM
:thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: wooddamon1 on November 25, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
6 pack here for reasons stated above...
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: kibok&ko on November 25, 2011, 11:36:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by wingnut:
Bill,

It really depends on price.  I like to see the overall price of the package at less then $30.  

Mike
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: americanhunter7 on November 25, 2011, 11:56:00 AM
6 pack for me too.
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: vintage archer on November 25, 2011, 04:09:00 PM
Bill, the survey that I conducted on right wing  vs. Left wing still holds .In our case we sell more right bevel than left bevel probably (guess) by 15%
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: zipper bowss on November 25, 2011, 04:15:00 PM
Thanks for the info., Joe!  :thumbsup:  
Bill
Title: Re: Broad head packaging, 3 or 6 per package
Post by: Hopewell Tom on November 26, 2011, 07:33:00 AM
I like the argument for less packaging. There's too much junk in the world.
6 per pack is what I'll buy and if what I read about these heads is true, paying a bit more gets you a lot more. Looking forward to my first order.