Ok guys I can get snuffers decently sharp but not as sharp as I like, whats the trick to putting a razor edge on these things? :knothead: Thanks brad
very light runs on a flat mill file. Just about the weight of the broadhead only, then some leather.
I am a believer in the hollow grind technique using a bench grinder. Then finish with a file and crockstik. It takes a light touch and you will probably ruin a head or two learning what to do but it works for me. There are a couple threads about it and I think an article in TBM.
C
After I get a file edge on them I pull them LIGHTLY backwards acrossed a ceramic stick till they shave.
And what do you REALLY think, El gran j? Congratulations, you have an opinion!
Wildgame - I put up a sharpening thread a while back that has been pulled up a few times, I think SteveO may have pulled it up most recently. Lots of ways to get Snuffers (and any other carbon steel heads) plenty sharp. You can do them the same way as Woodsman heads too, so any info you find on Woodsmans would apply. Snuffers been getting the job done for over 40 years....
Ryan
And we know what opinions are like. Been sharpening mine with file for a long time. Its almost like second nature to me, I can honestly say if I do my part, snuffers come thru for me.
I use a 16" file, then hit the edge with a butchers steel then strop with cardbord.
Use a snuffer tammer its childs play getting them razor sharp.And they are the only broadheads i have used for the last 20 plus years of bowhunting and have never been let down.
Well said Ryan :thumbsup:
A few months back I was having trouble getting some snuffers to where I think they are sharp enough to hunt with, which is hair shaving sharp. Some fine people gave me some tips and I'll share with you here.
1. With a black magic marker, mark each cutting edge.
2. Place a bastard file on your bench and using light stokes drag the head backwards on the file until all the black ink you marked in the first step is totaly gone. By this time you shpuld have raised a good burr on the edge. Flip the head and repete until you have all 3 sides done in this way.
3. When you have all the black ink gone from all sides of the head, switch to some Arkansas stones. Make sure to use plenty of oil on the stones. I started with 30 strokes per each side of the heads and after the first 30 strokes, repete the process reducing the strokes to 20, than 10, etc, etc. Do not use heavy pressure!
4. The next step I took was to put some Mothers metal polish on a piece of cardboard and lightly strop each side of the head with simmilar steps of step #3.
5. Last step is to strop each side of the head on plain cardboard. The edges should look shiney/polished and will be able to shave hair easily.
I think the total time per head was somewhere close to an hour. But the results of how sharp they came out was worth it to me.I hope this helps you get your Snuffers sharp.
Good, sharp file and progressively lighter strokes....simple!
Wow guess u never read your own tagline huh.
El gran J- I will gladly take yours.
El gran j what heads do you reccomend?
..I've used snuffers a bunch in the past ..."what a hole" they put out. I used a mill bastard file. They'll cut through any bad opinion.
Snuffers are some of the easiest BH's to sharpen. Try the snuffer tamer. Even "El gran put your foot in mouth J" could use it. It also fits right in your pack.
I pretty much do the same as recurve50lbs for snuffers and woodsmen heads! I've found these heads to be the easiest to sharpen to hair popping sharp with very little effort at home or in the feild! I carry a small stone and piece of leather in my fanny pack for field work when needed! And the blood trails are awesome!!!!
Most worthwhile things in life require some effort. The Snuffer delivers big time - I've never see the effort working on them that did not end in a fast, but messy ending. Wash them off - hit them with a file - next.
Snuffers are one of the easiest heads to field sharpen... as are all of the 3 blade heads.
Once worked over in the shop they can be brought back to razor sharp in the field with a file, diamond hone, stone or crock stick.
If you can't get it done with those then your technique is "Crap", not the broadhead.
:rolleyes:
Here's a bear that wishes Snuffers were crap.
He didn't make it 30yds.
(http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss115/earljeff/mainebearhunt2009014.jpg)
Snuffers rule.
snuffers are Excellent broadheads that are too dang easy to get scary sharp. if you can't razor sharpen a good 3-blade broadhead, you need to get schooled about a proper sharpening method. i thought i was getting my woodsmans damn sharp 'til ron @ kme showed me a few things that got 'em truly scary razor sharp.
i've got a six pack of 160 grain snuffers coming that WILL get super sharpened and hopefully i'll be able to deliver one into a deer or hog come january @ solana.
so in the long run, like most things in life, sharpening all manner of trad broadheads is about learning and properly applying good techniques. plain and simple.
If snuffers were "crap" then they wouldn't have been around for 20+ years.
thanks guys ! ive killed a few deer with snuffers but always thought maybe i could get them a bet sharper. ill give some of these methods a try! brad
Well....I know 160 gr Snuffers have put quite a few animals down over the years across this country. A good 10 mil bastard file, crok stik and leather strop will get them sharp. My hunting buddy Bamboo uses Stones and gets his Woodsmans scary sharp. It will work on a Snuffer also.
Take the time and learn how to sharpen them correctly. Getting the right angle, proper pressure and then finish them off on leather. For those fellas who really can't learn how to sharpen trad style broad heads, then maybe you should go back to replaceable blade heads.
Looks like that dude that thinks they are junk turned tail...Snuffers are a cornerstone of traditional bowhunting.
They are under new ownership and Bisquit and Todd Smith wil make them better than they have been since Roger and Ryan were putting them together out back.
I keep this in my favorites since it comes up so often. It is a lot more fun with Roger watching over your shoulder ;)
Sharpening Snuffers the Rothhaar Way (http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=031172)
Ron from KME wrote an excellent article about sharpening 3 blades a few issues back in Trad Archers World. He likes to strop with a LONG piece of cardboard.
I have the Snuffer tamer, and know a lot of folks like it, but for me the best way to get them super sharp is very simple:
1. The first time sharpening a head or after its been through a deer and into the ground, black the edges with a marker and then file until all the marker is gone - do no more than two or three strokes and rotate the head. Your edges should now be even.
2. Finish step 1 with just light pressure, rotating the head every stroke or two.
3. Then, what made a difference in how sharp I got my snuffers was the quality of the stones I used. Get the highest quality coarse, medium and fine stones you can find(I use the ones that came with my KME) and laying two blades on the stone at the time go through the coarse, medium and fine stones and you will be amazed at how sharp they will get and very easy to do.
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj10/longbowben/DSCN1679.jpg)
You can file sharpen them or get fancier if you want, they are absolute killers either way. I like to use a large file and finish with a KME ceramic stone, but there are lots of good tutorials on this site, have fun watching those a pick and method that works for you.
Charlie ... don't hold back ...give us your opinion ... :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
If they would only penetrate from a 47 pound bow.....
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_0158.jpg)
and they would have to leave a good blood trail...
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_0153.jpg)
sorry rc, that ain't good enuf, you didn't get a complete pass through. :laughing:
Well, as of today (the 17th of Nov.) I am unable to see the post by the El Gran J character but I can see many of you are responding to something he wrote.
About Snuffers: I have always used the Zwickey 4-bladed Deltas with great success. This year I decided to try the Snuffer and dug out a half dozen I had bought more than 20 years ago. I had no problems getting them plenty sharp with a file and a fine Arkansas stone. No shot yet but I am confident they will pass muster when the time comes.
Joe
Two weekends ago I was hunting with a relative and his buddies, (wheel guys). During a break at lunch they were showing each other their setups, and comparing their mechanical broadheads. I pulled my 160 Snuffer out and it was just like that crocodile Dundee movie, "Now THIS is a broadhead!"
I use snuffers because I know firsthand what they do.
NBK- crocodile dundee reference = :laughing:
Snuffers leave blood trails you slip on if you step on the trail! Be careful! Blood is slippery when fresh! :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by Steve O:
Looks like that dude that thinks they are junk turned tail...
Nah....he was removed from the site.
Swift and certain. The world needs more of that.
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
QuoteOriginally posted by Steve O:
Looks like that dude that thinks they are junk turned tail...
Nah....he was removed from the site. [/b]
That will work! Terry, you need a BIG axe photo to put in there for posterity :clapper:
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/axe33.jpg)
pic worth a 1,000 words
cracking me up for sure
i just got my first set of woodsmans on the way
hope to get one bloody soon
woodsman 101 thanks guys
oh the dilemma! woodsman or snuffer??? all of life should be so easy! hah! :D
Well you did it! Now ive got these things shaving,thanks alot.
Ps I guess me asking a queston thinned out one more weed!lol
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
oh the dilemma! woodsman or snuffer??? all of life should be so easy! hah! :D
Yea Rob,then Michael hands me a set of Big Jim 300's to try and they shoot like a dream!!! Now 160 Snuffer or 300 Big Jim :banghead: Now thats stressfull!!!!!!
QuoteOriginally posted by RC:
If they would only penetrate from a 47 pound bow.....
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_0158.jpg)
and they would have to leave a good blood trail...
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_0153.jpg)
That is some wicked photos of how effective the Ol snuffer is! That is just BAD!