Been thinking about building a homemade treestand lately. I have a lot of good trees to do it in. Trees where there are 2,3 and 4 trunks from 1 tree. I'm talking nice big sturdy trunks.
Can these be built safely? I should mention that I have carpentry skills that will enable me to build these solid. My concerns are the trees moving and the framework loosening. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Plans, pictures of stands that you have built would also be helpful. Thanks!
Sure you can. Use treated lumber and through bolts with large washers. Don't use nails for anything structural. Design them so that they will stay in place with gravity. You also want to add a non-slip surface. Wood will get incredibly slippery over time. Any wood stand is going to need a lot of maintenance, too. Moving trees will inevitably loosen or break something. A good wind storm could totally wreck one in a matter of seconds.
Personally, I think that it would probably be cheaper to buy a good lock on stand and install some tree steps. You could get something like a Chippewa Wedge-Loc, and put in some screw in steps and the cable on several different trees.
Even if you only spent $100 per stand on wood, not counting the time you put in, you're realistically looking at spending that at least every other year, maybe yearly.
I've built them in the past but never nailed, screwed or bolted anything to the tree. I basically built ladder stands out of pressure tx. lumber with a platform attached to the top. They were then set against the tree and attached with chains and turnbolts. Heavy as all get out but very solid and comfortable.
With the advent of cheap and easy to install stands these days and the cost of treated lumber and plywood homemade stands are a loosing proposition. We do them in the marshes of MD but for rifle hunting and they are big enclosed and covered stands, not suitable for bowhunting out of.
Is this on private land,on most(All I think) public land you can not build permanent stands.
And 2x4's and 3/4 plywood make a great condo in the sky.Best done in the off season
What you can do, regarding tree movement, is to attache the the under cariage of you platforme, to one tree and to have the rest, of the lag bolts going thrue orizontal slots in the 2x6, so that in the wind, all the trunks can move freely. If you have a chance, go to a library, and look for boks on tree house building, tones of ideas!!
Good luck and post pictures!
cheaper top buy a hangon stand. you can often get them for $40
yep, private land. The reason I want to build instead of buy is just for the room. I want to bring my son with me. I also think it would be a great project for us.
Brian, get one of those big double ladder stands, it will better in the long run and you can move it if you have to!
Ain't crazy about those things Ron. A buddy of mine almost killed himself trying to put one up a couple weeks ago.Those things are heavy as hell. I hate relying on others to get my stands up. Looking for something a little bigger.
In my opinion would never even attempt it, my bones mean more to me than my wallet..
I have a friend who built one on the ground so that it could be disassembled. After building he disassembled it and then put the platform elevated on planted 4x6s. then attached the sides and roof. His son shot a button buck (I think it was a button buck) early on in the bow season. It's also big enough for a stretched out nap if need be. Basically a small hut on stilts.
I built a ladder stand out of treated 2x4s and the platform supports are 2x6s. It sways with the sweet gum tree but is not built for two. Lumber and deck screws cost me about $40 last year.
Best of luck with whatever you come up with!! :thumbsup:
Has nothing to do with money...it would actually be cheaper to buy 2 ladder stands and put them on the same tree.
You don"t ever want to build a stand that is attached to more than one tree. Wind movement will tear it apart in a short time. I don't believe in building stands like that myself but have hunted property where people did it and I saw several attached to triple trunk tree collapse before they were ever used.
Don't do it! By a manufactured one and enjoy life with your wife and kids.
QuoteOriginally posted by horatio1226:
Has nothing to do with money...it would actually be cheaper to buy 2 ladder stands and put them on the same tree.
There ya have it! Ladders are very comfortable and roomy if you buy the right one's. Used together for both of ya. And, you can always seperate as needed.
I build ladder stands. I predrill all holes and have some that are 15+ years old. Trees grow and move. I use one lag bolt in back to tree and can adjust as needed.
Anytime you attach to multi. Trees you are asking for trouble.
Home made, permanent style wooden stands account for more accidents than those manufactured stands.
They are exposed to all nature has to offer year round. Trees moving and swaying, moisture, heat and cold all take thier toll on the integrity.
They can look perfectly safe, when in fact the wood is significantly weakened. Attachment points, nails, screws, drilled holes all allow moisture to enter the wood, starting the decay process.
Steps and railing are prone to failure, rsulting in falls.
Like mentioned before, for the cost, buy a stand built to TMA specs.
Old decaying stands are eyesores in the woods, and even if you dont use it anymore, someone else could come along and assume it safe, and be seriously injured or killed.
Check out the platform designs used by some of the tree canopy ropes courses. Cool stuff. Platforms are built around single bole trees and held in place by friction wedges. Not a single nail or bolt in the tree. They are large and sturdy and can hold several people at once. They wrap entirely around the tree so you cam walk around 360 degrees. For hunting you'd need a ladder to get into them. Unless you want a zip line!!
http://www.sandyspringadventurepark.org/
IMO manufactured stands are the way to go. A homemade stands are an acident waiting to happen.
In 1989 I built a treated wood swing set for my then 3yo and 1yo daughters. It was nailed together and bolted together in different spots. Two swings, a slide, and a set of rings for hanging and flipping. They used it almost every day that the weather was good. They outgrew it and I gave it away to good friends for their four kids. They have had it about ten years now. The plastic swings have been replaced as has the ring set. The treated wood is still holding strong after all the torque from the swinging, sliding, and flipping over the years.
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If you build a treestand out of treated wood, build it well, check it regularly, then it'll last for years of weathered use and non-use. Even approved and inspected metal and cabled parts fail.
Just don't be reckless about it and you should be fine if you want to build one.
I trust my self-built wood tree stand more than my Gorilla climber.
Sounds like fun..
Be careful and enjoy.
I have built many stands over the years, mostly for rifle but some for bow. They really don't cost that much and can be alot roomier and stable than hang-ons. You should always check them before each hunting season, but if done right only require attention every 5 years or so.
I like to put them in trees that have a Y, for ease of installation. Use good sized spikes for the attachment to the tree and screw or spiral nails to hold it all together. My rifle stand has a roof and a trapdoor to climb up through the bottom. Shot many bucks from a home built stand.
It is a well documented fact that the majority of tree stand accidents take place with "home made" or "built in" stands. Why anybody would be interested in risking themselves or a loved one in one of them eludes me.
i am very interested in this as well.
more for next year. We have finger of trees on our property that are all clumped up like you said. I currently have a lock-on on one of the trees in one of the groups. for next year i really wanted to build a platform inside of the group which has an approx. area of 6ft x 6 ft.
I was wondering how it can by done and done safely.
I just wanted to build a platform so one or two people could sit and shoot 360 with any weapon.
I know there is enough space for it, i just want to do it safely.
Great topic!
I built a very nice ladderstand for the very same reasons as op and I like it. I would not do it again unless I had the perfect tree and spot which I did/do have. It is more expensive to do it right and more dangerous in my opinon to go this route. A double ladder stand is lighter(can be moved) and will last longer. If you realy want to go for it but I would look into platform blinds or the double ladder stands first.
For those that doubt this can be done safely, just go and look up treehouse design. It can be done safely and the accidents that you read about are the stands built by people who have no business putting a tool in their hands. Decks collapse all the time because people build them that shoudn't be, doesn't mean nobody should ever build a deck.
QuoteOriginally posted by Trad-Man:
It is a well documented fact that the majority of tree stand accidents take place with "home made" or "built in" stands. Why anybody would be interested in risking themselves or a loved one in one of them eludes me.
It is also a well documented fact that people get shot while hunting.
Oh good grief, people have been building tree houses and permanent stands forever. Like anything else, do it right or don't do it; pretty simple. Some of my best hunting memories are from hunts out of easy to access, comfortable permanent treestands. There will always be some people you could lock in a rubber room with a big rock and they'll either break it or lose it. They need to stay on the ground.
Do you sleep in your yard for fear that your wood framed house will collapse on you? I know how you love your family and there no chance that your gonna let your boys climb into a little rascals tree fort. Check it frequently as Im sure you will and hunt away. The only warning Ill give you is that a lot of deer do become familiar with any type of permanent stand and will give you the stink eye everytime they're near it.
To each his own, but where I hunt I wouldn't even bother. The deer have been duly educated and walk around looking up. I've typically hung multiple small chain-on stands (Loc-On LEMS) just before the season in prime locations, always with good cover, never above the level of the mountain laurel and 50% will still get busted before I ever hunt them the first time! 20 years ago this tactic worked, but the deer have caught on...I killed the stupid ones. I have friends who put permanents in prime areas and ruined them within a couple years. Next year I've resolved to put stands up and take them down only when they're being hunted....what a hassle!
I used to build stands into trees but over time, the kind of deer I hunt quickly become aware of them and change their pattern.
Way back when, I bought a climbing stand---the predecessor to the "Baker". It was then called the "profane" stand. First time I used it, I moved to an area away from my permanent stands and killed a nice 8 pointer---. But you can build a good one if you know a little about building things with wood.
Joe
Just don't underbuild and you will be fine. I've seen a wide variety of wooden stands, some last a year, some a dozen. Just like any stand, check them every time you use them.
I still have an old Baker stand out in the shed. Talk about an adventure!
I have to disagree with the guys that say bucks shy away from permanent stands. The stands to them as they frequent an area are always there and become part of the landscape. I shot the biggest deer in 30+ years of hunting from a stand I built 25 years ago. I have shot many nice bucks from this stand and don't see a reason for this to change.
AS was stated before, the only dangerous stands are built by someone who is not skilled enough to attempt it.
My fall 20+ years ago was due to this reason. Since then I did my own mods on the same tree and hunt safely year after year. I even bring my 12 year old daughter with me in the same stand.
I remember the "Baker Slide"...!!!!! :scared:
One of the reasons I quit using treestands... But, that's a whole 'nother thread!!!!! :rolleyes:
Swamp Yankee and Woodchucker---I just hunted from my old Baker yesterday afternoon---I went up a big pine and stayed up nearly 3 hours--saw several deer but not "Mr. Big" that I have been seeking all season.
To Catskill Longbow--I almost exclusively hunt for big bucks--I find that permanent stands are often patterned by big bucks because no matter how careful one tries to be, one leaves residual scent and a "trail" to and from these stands. That is just my opinion though and I am glad that you have had better luck than I've had on bucks with them.
I use to build my own but not any more, dangerous they get very slippery when it snows or they start to get moss on them.