For years I have packed a "p" bottle to my deer stand. This year I started looking at everything I pack in and ask myself is it really needed. Just wondered what your ideas are on this one?
Just go I never had a deer run from the smell of pee
i think it is but my buddys dont
they brush the ground then cover it with the leaves n dirt they dug up
i still take a bottle myself
Last weekend I had 2 does come under my stand, smelled where I went and then proceed to urinate on top. Then I shot and missed. That scared them.
yup .... go ahead and go 8^) .......... I pee in scrapes all the time ....... I have watched many deer work a scrape within a couple of hours after I freshened it up myself
I drink a bunch of coffee and pee all over the woods. Also pee in scrapes.
Rob
Yup, just let it fall. Sure beats a leaking bottle in your pack. No, don't ask how I know
If you must pee make sure you pee Traditionally. :smileystooges:
It's no fun when a bottle of raccoon pee cover scent leaks in your pack either... :rolleyes:
If its #1 just go as mentioned, If #2 go over by your buddy's stand and leave a deposit...LOL
This may be an odd question-- do you think deer react differently to male/female human pee?
Nothing like a 15 foot stream out of a tree stand :)
let'er rip from the stand.
QuoteOriginally posted by huntryx:
This may be an odd question-- do you think deer react differently to male/female human pee?
Yes I believe they do . I was talking with one of my female hunter friends and she claims that whenever she pees in the woods she sees deer right in the area . If there's any truth to it I think it's due to the hormones in male/testoerone and female/estrogen . Sure would make one heck of an interesting experiment .... Just my 2 cents
well my bottle is gone no more packing pee for me. never would have thought it would not spook the deer.
I am brand new to hunting and I have been wondering about this question myself and asking my hunter friends. So far no clear conclusions...
What about other game such as wild pigs?
I guess the saying "relax, pick a spot" might be appropriate for this topic also!
Maybe I should have called this post," to pee, or not to pee!" lol!
Just freshened up a scrape with some coffee scented pee. Will let you know how it works out.
I'm not a "big buck" hunter, there are just not many local opportrunities here to hunt particular whitetails and I dont have the time needed if they were. If I were hunting some huge buck, I'd pay close attention to every little detail and definitely pee in a bottle. I'd rather not chance it.
For my normal hunting, I'm not going to be heart broken if a "normal" deer spooks. If I dont feel like hefting around a bottle, I'll go. If I feel like being super sneaky on a particular day, I'll bring the bottle.
I'd rather go far from my hunting areas though, I like to think leaving as little clues to my being there as possible is best.
same deal. This season I let fly off the stand and killed a buck an hour later and had two deer walk right to the damp ground and nose around (just after shooting their boy friend). No more nice warm bottles for me.
Joe
I've had my pee-bottle fall from my tree stand and yes LEAK in my back-pack so this year i'm going where ever.The Female pee does sound interesting :biglaugh:
When its really cold, just be sure you lean further away from the stand so you don't pee in your coveralls - makes a mess.
I hear ya one and all...and respect my Gang bretheran.
But there just something about having to remember WHERE it all landed from a tree stand when I get down, tramping around and my bow, pack and stand have got to be laid down under the tree...
and what Geezer said...you young bucks must still maintain decent "pressure"...cause I might as well just whiz down the tree itself... and with 3 layers on... and BPH...Nah.
I'll stick with the gator aide bottle. And as alluded to, it serves as a hand warmer for a few minutes!
don't know if this adds up to much but i had an 8 pointer on camera all summer, then in mid july i decided to start peeing near my grain pile (by my fall tree stand) to get them used to my scent for fall, and he never came again
Definitely get rid of the bottle and go wherever you feel like going.
Reminds me of how a buddy of mine used to take a bottle of Mt.Dew with him to his stand along with another empty Mt. Dew bottle for relieving himself. Well, he got up into his stand and had to pee right then. So, he used the empty bottle to "go" in and then put it back in his pack.
Later, he got thirsty and grabbed his Mt. Dew out of his pack and guess what! You're right! He grabbed the wrong bottle and took a big swig before he realized he grabbed the wrong one! True story.
We always tease him about how, if that happened to one of us, we sure never would've told anyone about it!
I chose a patch of long grass to water in a swamp once, and that caused a distraught brown snake to evacuate. We were both surprised!
Just pee.....I read an interesting article once by a deer biologist on this issue and he claimed that during the rut is the sound of it hitting the leaves will actually attract a buck as he scent checks a does urine. And actually had a young buck come in this morning right after I had relieved myself. I watched him walk around and come directly below my stand smelling my urine and never spooked.
Doc Nock
I remember as a "young buck" I could hit a knot hole in an adjacent tree from one of my stands. Kinda like shooting the water pistol into the clowns mouth at the carnaval. Ah, those were the days..............
And you are right, you have to plan where to go so you don't lower your bow in the spot. Pee and terbacky spit go to the right, bow to the front, my steps on the left.
QuoteI remember as a "young buck" I could hit a knot hole in an adjacent tree from one of my stands. Kinda like shooting the water pistol into the clowns mouth at the carnaval. Ah, those were the days..............
:biglaugh: thats too funny
I PEE! A few years ago I actually had a button buck lickin' it :eek: Just this year I had a button buck and a doe fawn under my stand after PEEING. I had cut some branches off a dogwood tree behind me. They were feeding on the fresh leaves on the ground. My human scent never bothered them.
David, David, David....just too many visuals right there...may never see that carnival game in quite the same way again! :rolleyes: :jumper: :dunno:
After shooting my deer on Friday, I could hold it no longer. I picked a specific spot so I could remember where. That way I could watch for a reaction from deer.
Had a small buck wack right through it and never paid it any attention.
bigjim
I just go :p
I've been back and forth on this one as I've seen deer pay no attention to it and I've seen deer shy away.
I think deer or any animal can be conditioned to things, good and bad. If a deer smells urine and associates it with danger as in maybe a missed shot or spooked by smelling me because of a wind change, it could teach it to fear the smell.
Make sense? That's my thoughts on it any way.
Pee in all my scrapes dude,deer love it! :thumbsup: I'm serious I get just as much action as I do by using expensive lures.
Let it fly. I have only had this happen once but several years ago I let fly from about 20' up a tree, there were a lot of leaves on the ground and it made a lot of noise hitting the ground. Before I could finish I heard running footsteps and remember thinking someone was pulling a prank on me when in runs a little 6 point. He walked right beneath me and circled around my stand looking somehwat confused, then ambled off in the direction he was headed when he ran in.
Personally though I try to only drink water when in the stand all day. I avoid coffee because personally I think coffee makes my urine smell particularly strong.
i go rite on the ground, never ever had a problem. now im talking a #1 not a #2 lol
BowhunterGA, I had the same experience you did. I had 2 spikes come charging in to within 15 feet of my tree. Missed the one, but they just stood there looking at each other. Got a second shot and took the other deer. I think I read that same article mentioned above.
i would worry more about the excess movement and sound than the Scent, You can pee in a bottle without standing up or making much noise. I once spent 3 morning hours huddled in a ground blind. when I could wait no longer I stood up and walked to the back of it to pee, As soon as I started a six point jumped out of his bed 15 yards away and was gone in a second, he had been there the whole time. I often wonder if I would not have stood up would he have eventuslly tried to sneak off and maybe given me a shot.
Twenty some years ago the host of a show called Michigan Outdoors was testing the claims made by the deer lure peddlers He poured a whole mason jar of his own urine on the Ground and then later filmed deer actually rolling in it like a dog.
Crack,s me up that theres three pages on peeing in the woods. You guys are awesome!
Jason
Ishoot4thrills reminds me of another good reason not to drink mountain dew!
Packing pee bottles around does have it's risks...
I don't carry a bottle, and still try to write my name in the snow like when I was a kid. :banghead:
Gene ;)
i just pee.
BigJim are you saying we need to pick a spot when we pee from a stand??? Sometimes I think we carry this trad thing too far but maybe I need to rethink. Just askin'. ;)
JW
I answer the "call" every year, I never think twice about it. I have never seen any adverse affects from it. I say, just do it.
There was one dude who always took bottled water to his stand on public land. Towards the end of the year there about a dozen of those bottles with pee in them tossed in the draw near my blind. It does not scare deer, almost every knows this, but still the scent purists are peeing in bottles. I had it once that I was quitting smoking, so I was drinking extra strong coffee and chewing truck loads of gum. One of those rare times when I actually went up the tree with my climber tree stand, after relieving my self numerous times and spitting Juicy Fruit gum as far as I could, going for distance and accuracy, I had two yearling does walk through where I wet the ground to where I was spitting my gum and started sniffing my gum. One gobbled up two pieces of gum that I successfully landed on my targeted log. We get too wound up about this smell stuff, but a fawn got down wind of me the other day about 80 yards out, snorted and ran off. Maybe, I should have peed when I got to my spot, the deer lure I had didn't do its job.
Re the male vs. female pee, I've seen a scrape where my pregnant wife peed a few days before.
I used to bowhunt with an older guy (Heck, he must have been 45 when I was 30) and, on coming into his house after a hunt I noticed he took his Thermos out of his pack and left it on the porch. Some time later I was picking him up and he went outside, got the Thermos and filled it with coffee. I asked him why he left the Thermos outside.
His habit was to drink the coffee in the stand and then pee into the Thermos. Once, years before, his wife was doing the dishes and dumped what she thought was cold coffee into the sink. Wasn't coffee. Since then she would not allow the Thermos back in the house - period.
:biglaugh:
I never pee near a tree-stand or ground blind. Guess I can extend my hunts after listening to you guys. I still-hunt a ways, answer the call, and then work around back to the stand.
I don't think the scent of urine has ever cost me a shot at a deer. I'm more concerned about the sound of peeing, and suspect that splattering on the ground from a tree stand might alarm an unseen whitetail (I can't imagine letting go while seeing one :>) )
According to the trail cam, I had two bucks and four does visit my "coffee scrape" yesterday evening. A 6 ptr and a 10 that has been making the rounds... Not sure if that answers any questions, but I'm fairly convinced human urine makes no difference. Pee freely.
Gene Wensel write in his latest book the he just pees from the stand. I'd have to say that it must not matter with the bucks those guys are seeing.
I've always just pee'd. I pee in mock scrapes and real ones if I can find them. Never had an adverse reaction, but have had deer start working a scrape right after I pee'd in it.
Once my buddy and I built a BIG ground blind.
We kept pee'n in one corner.
The spot started to smell like an un-cleaned urinal.
We are both coffee drinkers and that didn't help I'm sure.
We did notice a decline in activity after it started to smell...could've been the smell or just coincidence.
Other than that instance I haven't noticed any change in deer activity due to the smell of urine.
Guess I'd just suggest "spreading" it around a bit.
A couple of years back, I decided to just go from the tree. Less than 30 minutes later a good sized doe came along. As she neared the wet spot from down wind, she got all tense, stiff legged walk, and turned around heading out in a hurry. Since then I use a bottle.
Yup, I started a mock scrape in my backyard and have been freshening it up every day.....I have a trail cam on it and have both bucks and does checking it out every day!
It has been an interesting experiment!
Only problem I've ever had was gettin busted by an unseen deer due to movement and noise. Once so far this year.
You listen to some of those "experts" on those hunting shows, and it's like kryptonite for deer. Good info, I will exercise my God given gift more freely!!
Let it fly, man. Pee like a water wiggle and don't give it a second thought.
After reading this post I left the Pee bottle at home. I went out this morning to a stand that I've been to four or five times this year without seeing a thing. An hour after I pee'd a six pointer walked withing 15 feet of my tree, offered a broadside, then a slight quartering away shot, and walked off. He never knew I was there, or how lucky he was to be in a QDM area!
Go with the flow. I have found that some days every deer around winds you and some days it doesn't seem to matter. I am sure there are many factors at work. Hunt the wind if you can but don't let it ruin your day if it isn't right. Unless maybe you have done your homework and are hunting a big boy's core area.
Let it rip. I too have been peeing out of the stand and in scrapes for years...no problems