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Title: Broadheads
Post by: Scattergun2570 on November 04, 2011, 04:43:00 PM
I am very new to traditional..so,I would like to know what type and brand of broadheads are used. I am most likely going to be using a 45lb Martin Savannah for Whitetails. I assume you guys only use cut on contact fixed blade style heads. So..lets hear the suggestions..maybe some arrow suggestions also?
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: David Yukon on November 04, 2011, 06:47:00 PM
I shoot Surewood arrows, tiped with Aboyer brown bear 175gr... I also use some Grizzly stick carbon shaft, but will switch to 100% surewood, they are heavy and shoot great!! there is so many different good BH on the market, 2 blades, 3 blades, 4 blades, screw on, glue on, vented, unvented, single bevele, double bevel...

It look like the trend is in 2 blades BH, zweyky is popular, aboyer and many others. I think the 3 blades Woodsman, is an other popular one...

No mather what you choose, get them real sharp and place it where it count!!

Good luck
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Bjorn on November 04, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
STOS and Zwickey are popular; with that bow and whitetails 2 blade is a good choice.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: MikeW on November 04, 2011, 06:59:00 PM
Basically what David said, I like the Surewoods also for woodies, they are top of the line wood arrows. For carbons I like the Beman MFX. For heads there are just too many good ones out there.

I've been a STOS fan myself for years. Of the new ones out there Abowery,Tuffhead and VAP are all excellent choices and Zwickey has been killing for years and years.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: 1kwikstik on November 04, 2011, 07:02:00 PM
I've been shooting 2 blade magnus 125 gr. for years. They fly great and do a fine job for me.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Night Wing on November 04, 2011, 07:20:00 PM
I'm another fan of STOS broadheads when I'm shooting a heavy arrow setup.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Scattergun2570 on November 04, 2011, 07:24:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by 1kwikstik:
I've been shooting 2 blade magnus 125 gr. for years. They fly great and do a fine job for me.
But with a 45lb bow..how heavy of arrow am I best off with? including the broadhead weight.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Scattergun2570 on November 04, 2011, 07:24:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Night Wing:
I'm another fan of STOS broadheads when I'm shooting a heavy arrow setup.
Do those screw in? or glue on?
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Scattergun2570 on November 04, 2011, 07:25:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bjorn:
STOS and Zwickey are popular; with that bow and whitetails 2 blade is a good choice.
How many grains do you think I should be shooting,,total arrow weight I mean.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: thunder1 on November 04, 2011, 07:26:00 PM
I shoot zwickey no mercy single bevel . Tough broadheads.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: MikeW on November 04, 2011, 07:33:00 PM
QuoteBut with a 45lb bow..how heavy of arrow am I best off with? including the broadhead weight.
The standard answer would be to shoot 9-10 Grains per pound of bow weight at your draw, that being a standard hunting weight arrow and with 11-12 GPP a heavy arrow. 450-550 grains total weight would be fine. STOS is glue on only Zwickey makes both.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: stevewills on November 04, 2011, 07:37:00 PM
ill give one suggestion,contact matt(magnus)on this site he is a sponsor here and he will point you in the right direction,even if you dont buy his arrows he will help you with any and all questions.....
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Scattergun2570 on November 04, 2011, 07:38:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by stevewills:
ill give one suggestion,contact matt(magnus)on this site he is a sponsor here and he will point you in the right direction,even if you dont buy his arrows he will help you with any and all questions.....
How do I find him?
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Scattergun2570 on November 04, 2011, 07:47:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Scattergun2570:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by 1kwikstik:
I've been shooting 2 blade magnus 125 gr. for years. They fly great and do a fine job for me.
But with a 45lb bow..how heavy of arrow am I best off with? including the broadhead weight. [/b]
Stingers? Buzzcuts?
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: MikeW on November 04, 2011, 08:06:00 PM
Do a search for this stuff..you will be busy reading for days. Everything you are asking has been answered 100's of times.
  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: JamesKerr on November 04, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
If deer is your main game and your bow will shoot a 500+ grain arrow with some authority I would recommend the woodsman elite/VPA Terminator in a 175 grain head (or above) depending on tuning with some sort of carbon shaft. If your planning on using an arrow weighing less than 500 grains I would recommend the Stos, zwickeys, or magnus heads.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: hammer08 on November 05, 2011, 02:04:00 AM
Assuming you draw 28", I'd recommend a 2216 shaft with either a 150gr. Woodsman or a 160gr. Zwickey Eskimo. That should put you over 500 grains total.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: 8leg-lover on November 05, 2011, 03:25:00 AM
The absolute bare minimum for how many grains of total arrow weight per pound of bow weight is 8 grains. Always check with bow builder to be sure. So you're shooting 45# which would give you a minimum arrow weight of 360gr. I personally like to keep my arrows at 9.6-9.8 grains per pound of bow weight. For the way I shoot and how I like my bows to perform and feel when shot, this is pretty much my rule of thumb.

Just remember when it comes to trad bows, broadhead sharpness and arrow weight does the killing. Kinetic energy and a well placed shot takes care of the rest.

My opinion only. Hope it helps.
By the way I shoot Montec 125 gr heads on a Carbon Express Heritage 250 arrow.

You will find folks on here with a vast knowledge of about any trad question you can think to ask. You won't find a better group anywhere period.

Best of luck
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Lonala on November 05, 2011, 06:00:00 AM
Check out Twig Archery they have great shafts excellent service.Call them and they will take care of your needs shafts are straight and I think within 10 grains per dozen.Im shooting Chundoo shafts 5/16 nock end and 23/64 broadhead end with 125 gr Ace Broadhead.Total weight 527gr from a Bear Kodiak Mag green stripe 51# @28in 55/60 shaft BOP 28.5in I draw 27in.Aloha
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Rob DiStefano on November 05, 2011, 07:40:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Scattergun2570:
I am very new to traditional..so,I would like to know what type and brand of broadheads are used. I am most likely going to be using a 45lb Martin Savannah for Whitetails. I assume you guys only use cut on contact fixed blade style heads. So..lets hear the suggestions..maybe some arrow suggestions also?
since yer new to trad, if you haven't already read this article, give it a look over -  trad archery for bowhunters (http://www.tradgang.com/docs/trad.html) .

yes, a coc broadhead ONLY.  any and all will kill a deer if you do your part during the hunt, take yer pick for what you like best.  consider this - twin, three, four blades - they're all good as long as you can make 'em super sharp and keep 'em that way in the field.

make sure to test out a broadhead for flight - short and wide heads might offer wind planing, while most long and narrower heads will typically fly better.

more blades will almost always mean more/quicker blood loss if you hit the critter reasonably well.

i love wood arrows, but i don't think they're the best choice for someone new to trad and learning form as they are the least overall consistent shaft material.  stick with super durable carbons shafts - they're not that difficult to get to fly well, are very tweakable for weight and foc, and for a 45# holding weight that might be at around 28", any 500 or even 600 spine carbon will work out just fine for ya, i promise.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Breakfast Boy on November 05, 2011, 07:56:00 AM
VPA broadheads are probably the best of the best in my opinion.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: 8leg-lover on November 05, 2011, 10:48:00 AM
The absolute bare minimum for how many grains of total arrow weight per pound of bow weight is 8 grains. Always check with bow builder to be sure. So you're shooting 45# which would give you a minimum arrow weight of 360gr. I personally like to keep my arrows at 9.6-9.8 grains per pound of bow weight. For the way I shoot and how I like my bows to perform and feel when shot, this is pretty much my rule of thumb.

Just remember when it comes to trad bows, broadhead sharpness and arrow weight does the killing. Kinetic energy and a well placed shot takes care of the rest.

My opinion only. Hope it helps.
By the way I shoot Montec 125 gr heads on a Carbon Express Heritage 250 arrow.

You will find folks on here with a vast knowledge of about any trad question you can think to ask. You won't find a better group anywhere period.

Best of luck
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: lpcjon2 on November 05, 2011, 06:44:00 PM
As mentioned broadheads are personal choice, and like Rob and others have said they all will get the job done if you hit the mark. I shoot only wood and shot many types and settled on Zwickey 4bld (yes glue on)they fly great for me and my second choice is the Woodsman.

I say first pic the arrow type and make sure your form is good, and whatever field point you are using match the broadhead weight to that(125-145-160 grn and so on). Arrow flight and aiming are more of a priority than the head if you cant fly an arrow to the point your head wont have anything to cut.Just keep it simple in the begining and go nuts later on.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: Stumpkiller on November 05, 2011, 10:25:00 PM
You didn't say what type of arrows you'll be using, but since you said "traditional" we can assume good honest wood arrows.    :bigsmyl:  

I really have come to like the Stos 130 gr for sharpening and penetration.  The Magnus II 125 gr is a close second, or even a tie.  Both are as rugged as can be and great flying broadheads.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: screamin on November 05, 2011, 11:10:00 PM
Carbon arrow tipped with an Eclipse Werewolf.
Title: Re: Broadheads
Post by: straitera on November 06, 2011, 10:03:00 AM
If you can get it razor sharp, it's a good bh. Personal preference applies. Switched to Ace 160gr but have used most 2-blades just about w/equal results. Have some Bear 125gr I've killed a lot of stuff with, Zwickeys & Magnus too. Have Stos 145gr NIP but never used them just yet.