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Title: american leathers glove?
Post by: pamike on October 31, 2011, 04:37:00 PM
I hear a lot of good reviews on these gloves. Has anyone tried these and not liked them?  Interested in hearing more about them. Big shot, crossover, or full shot.

If u have one and don't like it and want to get rid of it let me know.  m
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Post by: Mint on October 31, 2011, 04:53:00 PM
The only glove I shoot now is the Big Shot Elk Leather. Great glove that is impossible to wear out.
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Post by: pamike on October 31, 2011, 05:06:00 PM
Why bison?

Why crossover?
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Post by: SecondSeason on October 31, 2011, 05:10:00 PM
i picked up the big shot at Raptor Archery.  thought they were a bit steep in price that is until i wore out 3 other leather sets.  almost 2 seasons on the big shot now and just added the wet shot for late season "rain season" archery and carpin in the summer.

you will love these.  be sure to get the correct size though.
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Post by: BeNoIt on October 31, 2011, 05:16:00 PM
I have shot a whole bunch since I got mine and it just seems to get better as it is broken in and doesn't appear to be wearing out. This is the only glove I have tried so I can't speak for others but I am totally happy with mine and will be buying my son one since he is transitioning to traditional.
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Post by: Rock 'N Bow on October 31, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
Been using mine for over three years and still no sign of wear. I shoot over a hundred arrows a day. The only way I'd get a backup is if I lose it.
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Post by: Slasher on October 31, 2011, 05:43:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Mint:
The only glove I shoot now is the Big Shot Elk Leather. Great glove that is impossible to wear out.
It is a great glove!!! However, I have a 43# Whip that is too light to get a good release with the same glove... Not the glove's fault, it is just the padded finger stahls(sp?) don't work well under a certain poundage for me... I have a 48# morrison ILF that loves that glove!!!! my 54# Whip Loves it as well...
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Post by: pamike on October 31, 2011, 07:53:00 PM
What r benefits of each model?
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Post by: pamike on October 31, 2011, 08:06:00 PM
What r benefits of each model?
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Post by: on October 31, 2011, 08:19:00 PM
Having been a tab shooter since forever (1960S), I recently gave the Big Shot Elk a try.  Just my two cents here:  Absolutely love it! Can't imagine shooting without it.  It is made extremely well and soft enough to "feel" the sting but more than adequate protection for the fingers.  I shoot 53# and find it to be perfect in that weight range.....If you hold more weight you may want to consider the heavier leather (can't remember off hand) or the "Crossover" which is designed for more weight as well.

Perhaps some of the experts will chime in here.
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Post by: bolong on October 31, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
I been using one for 3 years now and really like it.
Quality product well worth the money.
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Post by: Ray_G on October 31, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
I have two Elk Big Shots and this year acquired a Crossover.  My Elk Big Shots are now my back up gloves    :thumbsup:
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Post by: GRS on October 31, 2011, 09:12:00 PM
I recently bought a Big Shot and it is absolutely the best glove I have used. Not only does it provide a great release, due to the smoothness of the release, I believe my bows are quieter at the shot than when using other gloves and tabs. If you want a perfect fit, fax a tracing of your hand to John. He will get it right.

Gerald
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Post by: pamike on October 31, 2011, 09:22:00 PM
Thanks ray - that is helpful. i am just struggling for which one to get for my bows.  i pull light weight bows 43# - 50#. Is nylon the right one or should I get crossover. I have been using a very heavy cordovan tab (aae) and that leads me to think I would like the crossover. However I believe that is really made for heavy bows.
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Post by: Friend on October 31, 2011, 09:26:00 PM
Tab man for years!! Would periodically try a glove, since I felt a genuine need, yet repetatively came away quite disappointed.

My 7th glove happened to be the Big Shot. Broke it in then immediatley procured another identical Big Shot. My tabs now have found themselves locked away. The quest for the right glove for me has been gratefully adjourned.
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Post by: landman on October 31, 2011, 09:29:00 PM
Full shot but you need to shoot it a bit to break it in.   It fits my whole hand snugly and doesn't shift.   Good for hand protection and allows me to feel the entire string.
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Post by: pamike on October 31, 2011, 09:51:00 PM
How do u protect your thumb and pinky with the full shot? Interesting design...
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Post by: cahaba on October 31, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
I have had my Buffalo Big Shot for three years and it shoots better and better with age. I may get a crossover to try. I dont think the buffalo has any advantages over the elk. Best glove I have ever owned period.
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Post by: Winterhawk1960 on October 31, 2011, 10:47:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by pamike:
How do u protect your thumb and pinky with the full shot? Interesting design...
Protect them from what ???

I've had a Full Shot for about 18 months now. It's the best glove that I have ever had and is also the easiest on my fingers. I shoot bows from the low 40's up to 52# at my draw length.

Winterhawk1960
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Post by: mrjsl on October 31, 2011, 10:55:00 PM
I've had all 3. The elk is fine, but I like the buffalo better. Shoot a lot in hot weather and sweat, and the elk stretches out and gets loose on fingers. Buffalo has less stretch and doesn't do that.

That said, mine are just sitting around now. I've been shooting the Fred Eichler tab and like it better.
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Post by: 8leg-lover on October 31, 2011, 11:25:00 PM
So what do these bad boys go for $$ wise? No price on site.
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Post by: youngarcher1 on October 31, 2011, 11:46:00 PM
they're available on 3rivers site, 43.95 for the big shot elk glove and 59.99 for the big shot buff. worth every penny i have the elk and my dad has the buff fantastic products
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Post by: on November 01, 2011, 12:28:00 AM
i have been using them since James Schulz started the business. I have gone through a bunch of them over all these years. Every one of them is still in use, I give them away to those that desperately need a good glove and then I buy myself a new one.
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Post by: Ray_G on November 01, 2011, 01:29:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by pamike:
Thanks ray - that is helpful. i am just struggling for which one to get for my bows.  i pull light weight bows 43# - 50#. Is nylon the right one or should I get crossover. I have been using a very heavy cordovan tab (aae) and that leads me to think I would like the crossover. However I believe that is really made for heavy bows.
My thoughts about the differences are that it depends upon your shooting preferences.  Like Tony mentioned, the elk Big Shot lets you feel the string more and if you like a deep hook, it will do that easily.  The Crossover is stiffer and you can make an "L" no problem, slight hook.  For me that was the ticket in my release.  The string is not hung on my fingers and comes off easily.  I don't think that your under 45# bows will be a problem with the Crossover if you have been shooting a stiff or thick tab and it is the feel / shooting style that you like.  Your 50# is just below my 54# so for heavier bows, yeah but not necessarily.

Like mrjsl stated, the Bison has more integrity in the fibers to resist stretch.  I had to stitch my stalls tighter after the elk stretched during break in (not much but I am picky) but they haven't moved since.  The bison has been fine all along.  

Both are excellent gloves - just different strokes.  The bison took a little shooting to break in to my liking.  I was unsure of it at first but once I shot it to where it broke in, it is now my preferred.  You should get years of service out of either glove like pavan and others have mentioned.  My elk gloves are 4+ years and still going strong.

Email or talk with John at American Leathers if you have reservations.  He is a great guy!
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Post by: Covey on November 01, 2011, 06:32:00 AM
I dont think you could go wrong with any of the American leathers gloves. They are an excellant choice. I've had mine for 2 or 3 years without a problem. Love it!

Jason
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Post by: ripforce56 on November 01, 2011, 08:39:00 AM
i have the Elk Big shot and the Wet shot, i have been using my wet shot this fall very stretchy pretty much water resitant and works great with finger less gloves  when it is cold! Love American Leather products!
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Post by: pamike on November 01, 2011, 09:02:00 AM
Leaning towards crossover but ??

Wish I could test them!
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Post by: mt-dew10 on November 01, 2011, 09:12:00 AM
I used a tab exclusively for about one year.  I got tired having to put it on, take it off and put it on again in hunting situations.  

For this hunting season I was adamant on wearing a glove.  I tried many different styles and spent alot of money doing so.  Tried a Big Shot (elk hide) and am hooked.  The tabs are now in my drawer and will probably stay there.

One thing to mention, I did order one size down from what I usually wear.  I normally use XL in tabs and some of the gloves I tried.  I got a size Large in the Big Shot.  Although the fit was tight it first, the leather seemed to 'mold' to my hand for a better fit.
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Post by: mark land on November 01, 2011, 10:55:00 AM
I'm with Friend on this as well, tab shooter from the start, never liked any gloves I tried until I shot a Big Shot, now I don't even know where my tabs are and have 3 gloves, 1 elk and 2 buffalo, love those gloves.
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Post by: Terry Green on November 01, 2011, 10:59:00 AM
I think I own 5 of them(Big Shots)....liked them so much I bought plenty as you never know when the good stuff will not be made anymore.
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Post by: WildmanSC on November 01, 2011, 11:39:00 AM
I bought one probably 6 or 7 years ago.  At the time I was shooting in the backyard at least 6 days a week.  In the summer in the Lowcountry of SC that means heat and humidity.  Being the sweat hog that I am, the threads in the stitching tore through the leather after about 7 or 8 weeks.  It was a great shooting glove, but I just sweat too much and can't afford to replace a glove that tears out under the onslaught of sweat to which I subject a glove.

Bill
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Post by: LBR on November 01, 2011, 11:45:00 AM
If you are picky about fit like I am, you might want to wait until you can try them on in person before buying.  I sent in a trace of my hand twice, both times one finger was way off.  I gave up and gave the glove away.  May try one again eventually, but it will when I can try them on in person.

Chad
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Post by: pamike on November 01, 2011, 12:39:00 PM
Is there anyone that stocks these gloves to try them on? Cabelas sell them?

Mike
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Post by: arrow flynn on November 01, 2011, 05:11:00 PM
tried it not for me stalls not long enough still like my bateman cordovan glove w inserts better
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Post by: cahaba on November 01, 2011, 05:40:00 PM
My Bison glove does stretch. I'm going to do a custom stich job and see if that will give me a better fit.
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Post by: Hopewell Tom on November 01, 2011, 06:10:00 PM
I hate this place.
I had a Big Shot, but didn't seem to like it. For whatever reason. Have a Dura Glove from 3Rs, but got a Fred Eichler Cordovan tab and love it.
But now this thread and I'm wearing my Big Shot right now. Maybe I didn't give it a fair shake...
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Post by: pamike on November 01, 2011, 10:48:00 PM
Talked to john he says elk. I may just have to buy both and try them
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Post by: on November 01, 2011, 11:46:00 PM
The last one I got, the Buffalo number had nice long finger stalls, and the bow tip protector that came with it has come in handy, i needed one at the time and it fit really nice on my Pete George yew timberline
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Post by: pamike on November 02, 2011, 05:09:00 AM
Talked to john he says elk. I may just have to buy both and try them
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Post by: Jwilliam on November 02, 2011, 06:17:00 AM
:thumbsup:   The Big shot is the only glove I use. I actually own 3 of them.


Bill
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Post by: LA Trapper on November 02, 2011, 08:09:00 PM
Yes, I have 3 of them also.  Two of the elk and one of the wet shot for bowfishing.  Buy one, it will last.  I know Bill said he had problems.  I am down in Louisiana, same climate and I have had no issues.  Had all three for years.
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Post by: 8leg-lover on November 02, 2011, 08:31:00 PM
I just ordered the buffalo big shot. They mailed it yesterday. Can't wait to try this glove!
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Post by: duncan idaho on November 03, 2011, 09:22:00 AM
The only problem I have with the Big Shot is the nylon on the outside of the fingers develops grooves very quickly. If the glove fingers could remain smooth, it would be the perfect glove.
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Post by: SlowBowke on November 03, 2011, 09:24:00 AM
Another vote for the Crossover. While I too thought the price was a bit much, its obvious it will outlast me and is an excellent glove.

I may shoot a BIT better with a tab but a glove is just more "huntable" to me.

God Bless
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Post by: SlowBowke on November 03, 2011, 09:27:00 AM
Duncan, that is why I ordered a crossover. A buddy has the big shot and I saw the groves. I cant see the crossover doing so with the inserts.

I had another insert fingered glove custom made I loved but one of the fingers stretched out too much somehow and would come off each shot.

Still trying to shrink it with no luck but my go to is the Crossover now.

God Bless
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Post by: AKCrazyhorse on November 03, 2011, 02:11:00 PM
I've had several AL gloves.  When I moved to SE Alaska in 2003 and discovered that I'd be hunting in the rain.  ALL THE FREAKIN TIME!!! I ordered two of the wet shots.  I absolutely love the feeling of the neoprene finger stalls.  The just custom fit themselves to your fingers.  I was mortified when the stopped making them and overjoyed when they started to again.  I still shoot the original two wet shots I bought.  8 YEARS AGO!  I love the look and even the smell of the leather gloves but for durability, fit and function, I just don't see how you can beat the wet shot.
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Post by: pamike on November 03, 2011, 06:40:00 PM
I ordered the buffalo. Talked to john and decided to go that way. We'll see.....
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Post by: duncan idaho on November 04, 2011, 02:20:00 AM
SlowBowke,
          Have you used the crossover enough to form an opinion on the finger groove issue? For the past year I have been using the Black Widow PDQ Glove, it will form grooves, but doesnt seem to hang on the string like the Big Shot. I am thinking of ordering a crossover, just would like your insights. Thanks.
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Post by: duncan idaho on November 04, 2011, 02:20:00 AM
SlowBowke,
          Have you used the crossover enough to form an opinion on the finger groove issue? For the past year I have been using the Black Widow PDQ Glove, it will form grooves, but doesnt seem to hang on the string like the Big Shot. I am thinking of ordering a crossover, just would like your insights. Thanks.
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Post by: Butts2 on November 04, 2011, 07:52:00 AM
I have used a Big Shot glove for 7 years. I am on my third. Lost the other two...long story. One of the better shooters in Colorado "Ray Cook" turned me on to it. I am not that partial to the glove...I only wear it when I want to comfortably pull back and hold the string and then hit what I am aiming at  ;)    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Dan in KS on November 04, 2011, 03:04:00 PM
Used a ton of different gloves and tabs over the years.  Tried a big shot several years back and retired all the others. It is all I use now, and strongly recommend it!

DB
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Post by: kestimator on November 04, 2011, 03:16:00 PM
I'm a big Big Shot fan too!  :)  Great quality!
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Post by: killinstuff on November 05, 2011, 06:49:00 AM
I didn't like the fact that the nylon doesn't cover the side of the fingers developed a groove and frayed. I'd touch it up with the torch now and then to keep it smooth but it would always come back.  Now shooting the Bear Paw speed glove sold by Kustom King. Great glove, nylon is thinner and comes up halfway around the finger. Better feel and better release for me. And only $20