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Title: Gluing to carbons
Post by: toyrecurves on October 29, 2011, 12:22:00 AM
Hello,

I have always used goat tuff to glue my feathers to my carbon arrows. I usually do six arrows a year or more if needed. This last batch of arrows got me extremely frustrated. The feathers took a really long time to stick if they did at all. Has goat tuff changed their formula lately or what?

I do use wraps and they have worked fine in the past. Could that be the problem? What does everybody else use?

I want something that sets up quick like the old goat tuff!!

Thanks,
D.Toy
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: Longbowz on October 29, 2011, 12:50:00 AM
How old is the bottle of glue?  Most adhesives of this type have a limited shelf life.  Around a year or so.

When I buy a new bottle I print the year on it.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: Possum Head on October 29, 2011, 06:06:00 AM
Fletchtite! Never had a problem
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: Rob DiStefano on October 29, 2011, 06:19:00 AM
i'd used glue to fletch arrows since the early 50's, but after discovering bohning fletch tape it's all i use on every kinda arrow finish from clear coated woodies to vinyl wrapped shafts to bare carbons.  

that stuff will HOLD TIGHT!  after 3 years in the carolina woods, one of my carbons still had every bit of all four fletch feather quills still firmly attached to the bare carbon.  i will NEVER use glue again to attach fletchings.  getting the old fletching off by fingernail scraping is very easy, as well - no more need to do the harmful blade scraping on glued fletches.  imo, fletch tape is superior AND lots faster.  ymmv.

check out the how-to forum ....
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: Butch Speer on October 29, 2011, 07:24:00 AM
Got to agree with Bob. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: mikebiz on October 29, 2011, 07:47:00 AM
I have a bottle of Goat Tuff that I got in the spring.  Haven't used it much since I use fletching tape, but I put a drop of GT on the ends of my feathers and the stuff took forever to dry.  I've heard such great things about GT and I was shocked by it's dry time.  Thought that was odd for a cyanoacrylate glue.  Goat Tuff website says touts it's 2 year shelf life.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: sweet old bill on October 29, 2011, 07:55:00 AM
same with me Bob I gave up glue many years ago and use the tape. I found a arrow in the pasture last spring and after snow all winter on the arrow the tape still hold the feather in place.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: Rob DiStefano on October 29, 2011, 07:59:00 AM
duco or fletchtite on the fletch ends after taping.  cures inside of a few minutes.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: Big Ed on October 29, 2011, 08:03:00 AM
On carbons make sure you clean the shafts with some sort of cleaner. Alcohol, thinner, Acetone. DO NOT soak them just wipe them.
Ed
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: cajnhuntr on October 29, 2011, 08:16:00 AM
Goldtip, Tip Grip is about the best. I have used it for about 3 years now with no complaints yet. Just be careful where you put it, it will hold anything. I used Goat tuff in the past and had the same issues mentioned. I also noticed that even if the glue does hold, it will become britle after a year and the feathers fall off the arrows.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: JRY309 on October 29, 2011, 08:40:00 AM
I like to use Platinum fletch tite for all my fletching except I use Duco on wood arows with a polyurethene finish.Haven't had any problems with using it on wraps or aluminum.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: Kentucky Jeff on October 29, 2011, 08:42:00 AM
Another vote for fletch tape and Duco on the ends.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: Rob DiStefano on October 29, 2011, 08:45:00 AM
i put a small drop of cement on the fletch ends of all taped on fletching, not so much to hold down the fletching ends, but to fair the transition of the quill to the shaft.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: Swamp Yankee on October 29, 2011, 09:32:00 AM
Cyanoacrylate glues are great when very thin and cure almost instantly, but not so much when there's a large volume of glue.  I'd use Fletchtite or Duco to secure the ends of the fletching, not superglue.  Either will work find with vinyl wraps.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: metsastaja on October 29, 2011, 09:42:00 AM
I use tape and dab of cement on each end. I wipe all shafts with alcohol or acetone before applying tape.
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: Jim Brennen on October 29, 2011, 10:36:00 AM
Fletch tite and tape here,never have any problems
Title: Re: Gluing to carbons
Post by: guspup on November 01, 2011, 08:30:00 PM
Is there a shelf life on the tape?