Anybody have any luck with these.Do you use when deer are visible or blind calling???
I have great success with them and I do both. The down side is when you call deer in they are extremely wary because they are looking for another deer.
I used it to blind call a 200+ 8 PT. buck in Maine a couple of years back, he's hanging on the wall up at my friends house now, first and only buck gotten on his property so far, so I still have braggin rights.
Yes, they work or at least this one did !
I have used then quite abit only once did i feel sure it helped. I bought a Quaker boy bleat w bellow yesterday. Used it tonight no luck
I have used them both ways. No luck so far with blind calling. When I have seen deer and can called, it got there attention but they failed to come in to investigate.
i have called in many does but i do not use it unless i can see the deer and their reaction.
I've never used them while hunting, but when I was a kid I would play with them endlessly while my Dad toured the gun shop. I remember thinking they were hilarious.
I have had great success with them! I have successfully called in bucks that I have a visual on, and ones that I called in "blind".
I usually use it in conjunction with a grunt tube to imitate a buck chasing a doe.
Killed a great buck last year using one pre rut in GA. I've killed numerous deer both blind and that I'd seen. IN fact I got to pick up a new one tomorrow. Mine bit the dust when I left it by accident in a blind.
Have used them - just like rattling and grunt calls - sometimes they work - sometimes they don't. This time of year I use them if I see deer that I want to bring in closer.
i use them, they work. im not sure if the time of year or just the mood of the deer but i have had does come in leave, and t a couple bleats and they come back. they work
Called in one buck that I put an arrow in using a can. He was cutting across a cut corn field about 200 yards out one frosty morning and I tried the can several times, but I didn't think he could hear me because of the noise he was making dragging his feet through the downed stalks. Pulled out my grunt tube and blew so hard it sounded more like a goose! He stopped and I gave him one call with the can and he turned and moseyed my way ending with a 12 yard shot. Only time it worked, but I always have one on me after that encounter.
Use the sounds all the time - just with my voice though. You can mimic the can and vary the tone quite easily. Called in five different PYS last year for 2 different guys- they missed them all. Called in 3 different PYs for myself- shot one. It has a lot to do with timing and the deer movement/posture.
I have killed a bunch of bucks using the can, I dont go hunting without it. It doesnt work all the time but when it does get ready because it can happen fast. I use the big can from primos.
I've called them both blind and after seeing them.
Last Sunday I saw a deer moving through the woods and could tell it was a buck and used my can and called him in, just couldnt get a shot.
They do work but arent fool proof.
I have called in 4 or 5 different small bucks, one nice 7 that I let pass back in the compound days, the smaller bucks were called in blind the 7 I saw walking along the creek and he came right in.
I've learned through experimentation that over-use (read that calling a couple more times after they hear it the first time) will send them running. I've been told to not drag it out but, instead, use short calls. I guess long bleats send the message to get lost? Haven't tested that one thoroughly yet.
Which can specifically?
There are quite a few of them.
Very interested.
Thanks!
I must be doing it wrong!
Estrous Bleat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJMGYuEdVmM&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
This is how I called in my wall hanger last year. He made a 90 degree turn, from 70 yards to about 15. 2nd week of November.
Edit- Forgot to mention, I use a Primos Original.
THANKS!
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I like the smaller one think its called "the litlle can", H.S ?, not quite as loud. Has called in a few smaller bucks when using it blind, in thick cover, and has called in a nice one from across a small field, he was going the other way, called twice he turned and came to me
Please keep in mind this has been my experience and interpretation.
--Have rattled and grunted-in up to seven bucks in a season. May go a couple of years without any success. May also spook numerous deer and have gotten busted more times than I know. Have never rattled in a mature deer. Note: I don't count calling success until I have gotten the buck w/i bow range.
--Have canned in three times as many bucks in a season. Have canned in mature bucks and actually harvested one and let two other min P & Y's walk...had success utilizing the can each season. To my recollection, I haven't spooked nor been busted, yet I am confident there were deer that saw me of which are I was unaware.
Note: A premier outfitter in Iowa, of which I am quite familiar, harvests more trophies by using the can than by all other calling methods combined.
Like the fact that the can is effective for both blind and site calling. Also, like the fact instead of spooking the deer, they may choose to simply ignore me. Have had the same bucks, on many occasions, which ignored me a 1/2 hr to 2 hours earlier, respond and come in after calling once more.
Was not a believer or motivated to try the can when they 1st come out. Two bucks were right under my stand, when a hunting bud from Ohio canned. The two bucks immediatley turned and promptly headed with purpose in his direction. They both ended up right under his stand. My interest was now stimulated.
I will say it again- learn to use your voice. It is so easy and you can vary sounds and volume . . . besides it does not cost a dime! Every person I show it to says "That's easy!" Yup. . . call in mature bucks every year- harvested many this way.
I take it in the can every chance I get:)
It is the only call I've used with consistent success since 1996. Grunts don't always work and sometimes spook deer. The can works every time when deer are visible. The can works when blind calling. I called in 4 bucks last fall in the first week of November using just 2 rolls of the can. They got into 2 drawn out sparring matches and split off.
I forgot to add that I put the can on the ground weighted on one end and use the bow haul rope to tilt it up for the call. It seems to keep deer from looking up.
My My very interesting I may have to give mine a try or two.
Thanks Guys
I have never had any luck with it. I think my can is broken or something. Doesn't seem to be very loud.
Also, how are you guys using it???
Like the video, short blehs or the long drawn out bleehhhhhhhhh??
QuoteOriginally posted by USN_Sam1385:
I have never had any luck with it. I think my can is broken or something. Doesn't seem to be very loud.
Also, how are you guys using it???
Like the video, short blehs or the long drawn out bleehhhhhhhhh??
I use a mixture of long and short. I also vary the number of holes I cover to adjust the volume each time. And I don't necessarily worry about "mistakes". I've heard deer make some pretty screwed up sounds in the wild. To me it's just like turkey hunting.
To me the key is always going to be the ease of use and using it enough. I try to remember when I am hunting how often and vary it thru the hunt. I try to never get into a rhythm with it. Just vary the number of bleats, time between bleats and time between using the can.
Anyway for whatever it's worth that has worked for me in GA, SC, AL, and NE and KS. I don't think I've ever spooked deer but I believe a lot have just ignored me. But I have killed more than my share.
I have both the Primos original estrous doe can and the Primos fawn bleat. Both work at times. I called in a buck, spooked him when my stand sqeaked, then called him back in, and killed him. That one was sighted first. I've called in several bucks with it that I sighted first but for one reason or another never took or had a shot.
I've had less success blind calling with either the can or a grunt tube. I've rattled in several bucks, but none that were mature enough to shoot.
The fawn bleat seems to work better with does. It must arouse their maternal instincts. The problem with it is they come in jumpy because they are looking for a fawn in distress, I guess. Sometimes they ignore it, but I have watched does ignore real fawns bleating like crazy. I think once they are trying to ditch the fawns, the fawn bleat is no longer effective. If you are looking to score on a doe early in the season, they will work better. It sometimes gets the attention of the bucks during the prerut faze. I guess they think a doe is trying to dump the fawns, so she can breed. They will come in less jumpy than the does because they are looking for something different. I haven't managed to get a mature buck in this way yet, but I wouldn't discount it at the right time of the year.
Any call will work sometimes, but none of them work every time. I certainly wouldn't abandon a call because it failed once or twice. Timing can be very important.
ive called in more deer with a "can" call than all others put together. sooo easy to use, and heres a tip, i dont ever turn em over. blow in the hole in the bottom your thumb is supposed to cover, and it is a super simple mouth call. you can adjust volume, length, anything...
love can calls.
Tried blowing into my can this evening. Wow, that works really well.
Didn't bring anything in, but it sounded great and was much more consistent than turning the can over.
Never had much luck with them.
QuoteOriginally posted by KSdan:
I will say it again- learn to use your voice. It is so easy and you can vary sounds and volume . . . besides it does not cost a dime! Every person I show it to says "That's easy!" Yup. . . call in mature bucks every year- harvested many this way.
Could you expand on this? Maybe make a video? Intrigued minds are wanting to know.
--But, I have had success using the can the Primos version.
I've carried both the original and the "Li'l" cans (Primos) ever since they came out. I use the little one most of the time. Used to have a lot of luck with them (just haven't had much of any kind of luck hunting the last 4 years - with or without using them - and this one is even worse so far). I like them a lot, and have faith in them. I'll have to try that blowing in the bottom trick.
I made a post here saying that I haven't had much luck with them. Well today I saw a nice buck about 60 yards out. I gave it a try. He bolted for the next county. I saw no other reason for him to bolt.
LOL .......... about 20 years ago primos came out with a "fawn in distress" call as well as an acompanying how to video .......... The experts on the video said if you want to call in a buck thats with a doe all you have to do is call the doe and the buck will follow .
The Fawn in distress call was claimed to be a sure thing at calling in does . And in fact the does on the video came in on a dead run . At the time I was in my experimental phase of being a bowhunter and would often try some of these off the wall tactics,so I bought one of the wonderful calls and the first three does I tried it on are probably still running today . I'm sure they at least made it to the next county over . I threw that call in the trash and made a note to self to not believe everything the famous TV heros tell us !!!!!
Actually the video and the call worked just exactly like it was designed to do .......... it separated several thousand "experimenters" from their hard earned money.
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