Which one do you have/How do you like it for on the move hunting?Any problems using longbows?Have you taking any game using either?What was the yardage if you did?
Never used the Hunt More but have had a Waldrop Pac-Seat since 2008. I just ordered some of the legs for mine that allow you to set up without a tree to lean against. With the legs added, I believe this will be the ultimate ground hunting seat. I don't think you will have any problem shooting any type bow from it. David always had a longbow the times I hunted with him.
I have used many different seats over the years. I bought the waldrop Pac seat last spring and have been using it this bow season and I agree with Greg clark it is the ultimate ground seat.No problem using my longbow.Money well spent!!! Randy....
I've owned both but now all I have is the pacseat.
Best money I've ever spent on a hunting seat period.
God bless, Mudd
I have both but only use the Huntmore in a turkey blind as it swivels and is awkward to set up and take down.
The Pacseat is great for carrying, setting up and shootiing from. I use a 66" recurve with no problems. Tie a little piece of camo netting to the frame and set up anywhere in less than a minute
I bought the Huntmore chair last year-- it is comfortable, for sure, and over-built, if anything. There is a bit of a learning curve on the setup of the chair. It would be the perfect chair to leave set up in a ground blind--it swivels and it's quiet!. If you're going to move around, however, it is too bulky and heavy @ 10 lbs or so. I sold mine after a couple of hunts. This year I bought a Pac Seat and I am blown away by how comfortable, solid and easy to transport and setup the thing is. I can strap my daypack onto it, and away we go. Yes, it may well be the perfect seat for the ground hunter. Longbow--no problem.
I have both....both server a different purpose...its like a spoon and a fork....both will get food in your mouth......but soup is hard to eat with a fork.
I took a doe last year at 12 yards off the Pac-Seat. Like Terry said, they are totally different products for different situations.
I like the Huntmore for long sits in good cover when I am less than a mile from my car. There are places where the strap on tree seats are handier and they are easier to set up than the Huntmore, the easiest and most portable is the Niftyseat. I just stick a belt through it and it rides close and tight, but for long sits on it, a butt pad, attached to my belt, is a big help. I don't have a problem shooting a longbow from any of these. The good old chunk of plywood with a rope through two holes can work about as good as anything and is by far the cheapest.
As others have stated the Hunt-More is great if you are going to be in one spot for a long period of time. It gets easy to setup the more you use it. It is not a good option if you plan on moving from spot to spot.
Dude the hunt more is not fun to carry and usually I leave it in the field if I'm returning to that blind. That said its comfy and not a challenge to set up. Just learn how and practice.
I want to retrofit titanium tube legs onto mine. Way lighter.
For long hunts and/or all day sits, give me the waldrop pacseat. I have been known to take a knap and actually have awoken on two occassions with a gob rt in front and arrowed the bird w/i 30 seconds of awakening.
No telling how many opportunities may have been missed by taking a knap. Don't want to know!
Thanks for the input gangers!!!!
Fanaticoutdoors sells a Hammock Seat which is the most comfortable hunting seat I've tried. I have a nifty and one that squirrelbait crafted a few years back, kind of on the same order as the pacseat. Also have a Rackpack for the double bull. The hammock seat weighs less than two pounds, can be used at different heights. Gotta have a tree to use it though, but it beats everything I own for comfort.
What is the weight capacity on the PacSeat?
For those who have the Huntmore 360, is it really worth the $200 price tag?
May be beneficial to keep in mind the type of blind to be utilized in conjuction with your favored seat. Some tall blind designs may make a low chair impractical.
Yes it is. Adjustable independent legs and swivels 360. Comfy. Just heavy to carry relative to a longbow, etc.
I bought a huntmore here on the Gang for texas hog hunting..I luv it but if I have one complaint,its a little heavy about 7-8 lbs. nothing compared to most tree stands,super comfy,ya can sit all day...If you're patient,they do pop up once in a while in the buy an sell usually $30-50 cheaper than new..I will add,they're great people to deal with,I was at a sports show talkin to them an they gave me the update for it free (larger knobs etc..)even though I bought it used...
Picked up one of the Huntmore stools over the weekend through some trading. It's a really nice stool, kinda heavy, but pretty comfy. The swivel is nice and quiet. Not sure about the $$ tag on the new ones though.
I look at the Huntmore's price and weight this way; if you hunt on the ground exclusively like I do then that stool is your "treestand". I never see anyone complaining that their Summit or Lone Wolf weighs too much and costs too much. Those qualities are just taken for granted even though they are both heavier and more expensive than a Huntmore 360.
For what you get, the Huntmore is worth every penny. It's comfortable, quiet, infinitely adjustable and it is built like a tank. What other stool do you know of that is rated for 300 lbs (like a treestand)? It will be the last stool you will ever need to buy for replacement purposes. And Scott Hoffman, the Huntmore inventor, is a top-notch guy. He will do everything in his power to make sure you are happy with your purchase.
That's all I got to say about that,
Darren
Good point Darren. Looking at it that way I can see justifing the $$ for it. At first glance, the price is high enough to keep a lot of people away from it though. But it is far superior to any other chair/stool I've tried. Does anyone have a link to show how to set it up? I want to make sure I have all the straps and buckles in the right spot. Do the straps for the backrest feed through the D rings where the seat attaches to the frame?
If mobility is important the Waldrop Pac seat is hard to beat. Bought mine in May and have hunted with it since October 1. Have not taken game with it yet, but no fault of the seat. Had a 300 pound friend who sat in it this weekend with no problem. If I lost this one, I would replace it immediately. Well made and worth the money if you spend a lot of time hunting from the ground. :thumbsup:
What I did not like about the pack seat is when it is used on a steep hill side. I got a worse back ache than I normally have. The Huntmore does not sink into the mud, can be set level on a steep slope and does not need a tree to lean against. The problem with the Nifty seat is that one can lose his balance when rotating on slopes and fall over. Some of our best areas to setup are steep and have no large trees, our deer figure out what is in those trees by rut and avoid them. Besides who wants to compete for a place to hunt if you are stuck with being in woods with big trees with lots of others that think their tree stands are the equivalent to a no trespassing sign.
The Waldorp is a better choice by a wide margin, in my opinion.
Fanaticoutdoors Hammock seat is small,light weight,comfortable,fast to set up.But you need a tree,i bought two just in case they quit making them.
The Huntmore is a very nice chair that is well worth the money if it is used for its intended purpose. Darren said it best.
I also like the Double Bull Magnum Tri-Stool for a lighter, comfortable blind chair, but it doesn't have adjustable legs or a rotating seat, and is not nearly as well built.
The Nif-T-Seat is extremely handy, light and portable, but it is not made to sit on for a long time. Effort is required to maintain balance, and it does not have a back for comfort. About an hour on it is all I can stand before I get very restless. However, it is great for call and wait hunting for turkeys and varmints where you move around often and go to new setups regularly.
The Waldrop seat and others similar to it are comfortable and relatively light, although far more bulky than the Nif-T-Seat. If you don't have to move around as far and as fast, the Waldrop would be a better option for staying comfortable once you get to a new setup.
All of these seats have advantages and disadvantages, so you have to buy what works for your primary conditions -- or else buy them all and use the one that works best on a particular hunt. Since the original question asked about using a seat on the move, I would narrow the choices to the Waldrop and the Nif-T-Seat, depending on what kind of movement was required. For more movement, choose the Nif-T-Seat. For more comfort, choose the Waldrop.
Allan
from the pics on asbell's site, it looks like the angle of the back of the chair would be uncomfortable. is that adjustable?
If you find a lazy boy uncomfortable then yes it would be, but I love mine.
God bless,Mudd
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If you find a lazy boy uncomfortable then yes it would be, but I love mine.
God bless,Mudd
I liked mine so much I bought another. Best seat bar none my opinion!
Well put Mudd
Jason
I suggest anyone consider the Hunter Seat for anything not in a stand alone blind. Very easy to carry, super sturdy and comfortable and fairly cheap.
http://www.hunterseat.com/products/
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bolo - It appears to be in excess of 1 Biggie Hoffman (No insult intended - this is coming from a guy who could easily be know as biggie himself)
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bolo - It appears to be in excess of 1 Biggie Hoffman (No insult intended - this is coming from a guy who could easily be know as biggie himself)
Ha! I'm down to 345# no problem with the Waldrop seat at all.
Has anyone attached a pack or anything to one of the pack seats,and how did it work....got a pic? I'm going to order one of these shortly and I'm looking for ideas. Just want to carry a lunch and a drink....maybe a camera!
Ron,
I carry a Badlands 2200 and even my boot blankets and little padded seat attached to my PacSeat. Let me see if I can't take a few pictures to show ya.
Check back on this thread later this evening.
Winterhawk1960
Again....I don't think its 'either - or'....two different chairs for two different applications. Both server their own purpose VERY well.
And yes, you can affix stuff to the Waldrop...I strap lock ons to mine to carry them in to hang ...done that many times with bungee cords.
Yes...the Waldrop is also adjustable....if you read about the chair you will find out a lot more than just by looking at the pic and assuming. :campfire:
QuoteOriginally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
QuoteOriginally posted by dirtguy:
bolo - It appears to be in excess of 1 Biggie Hoffman (No insult intended - this is coming from a guy who could easily be know as biggie himself)
Ha! I'm down to 345# no problem with the Waldrop seat at all. [/b]
Thanks for the help. I ordered mine today. I weigh 280lbs and most chairs don't usually last. LOL
Ron,
Here ya go........if this works. Photobucket has been giving me fits all evening.
Lets see how it goes..........
Winterhawk1960
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I see.....so you carry the seat and the seat carry's the pack just like you would wear it. So you take the pack off when you get to your spot. I think I have to bite the bullet and order one of these things........ :thumbsup: Thanks, like they say, a picture can say a thousand words....
Is Asbell the only one that sells the Waldrop?
That's the only place I have seen them......mine should be here this week, I hope!
You won't be sorry Ron--it's a great invention!
I'm looking forward to getting it set up and ready to go for the late season.......... :wavey:
I have another one on the way. I want to leave one in my truck at all times.
David worked on this seat for years before he brought them to market. The guy is a perfectionist and it shows.
I use an Asbell shoulder bag on mine. I took the shoulder strap off and connected it to the frame. I don't have to take it off, just reach around behind me if I need something.
Ron:
Play with it when it comes in. Takes a while to figure out what works best for you. I've never used it as a pack frame but might some day. Waldrop has been making these for quite some time but never marketed them until G. Fred asked him about selling on their site. He is a one man operation. He told me he guararantees the pac seat for life(thats his life). Hard to beat that.Good hunting.
I like to tinker....I have a bunch of fanny packs and day packs that I will mess around with, modify or what ever it takes to make it my constant companion. I just hope I don't fall asleep more than I do now...LOL! I will also shoot from it in the yard to make sure I know what to expect at the moment of truth should it arise!
Per Biggie's comment.
"I have both but only use the Huntmore in a turkey blind as it swivels and is awkward to set up and take down."
Unfortunately, you have an older version of our original chair. It would be like me comparing the older PacSeat vs the new HuntMore chair. It would not be a fair comparison. Doug makes a great backpack sling style hunting chair, but it's not a HuntMore, and a HuntMore is not a PacSeat. Too many others online have fairly explained the difference for me to repeat it.
The new 2011 HuntMore 360º chair is at least a 40% better chair then the original. It's easier and faster to set up and take down with the QuickSnap hooks. Sure there is a learning curve to setting up the chair, but it is quick and easy to do and the comfort and versatility is worth it. The HuntMore is more flexible in more hunting situations then the PacSeat. The legs are adjustable when you can not find a level spot. The HuntMore also has larger feet that don't punch through the earth.
One major advantage of the HuntMore 360 Chair is that it is a more accurate shooting platform of the two. The HuntMore is the quietest most stable rotating shooting platform on the market. I know you can "awkwardly" make the PacSeat rotate on one front leg with practice, but there is no comparison for easy of shooting and accuracy of shooting. A rotating platform allows you to keep better shooting form. No matter what direction the game comes in, you can track or rotate with the animal and at the right moment, shoot accurately using correct form. Whether your using Fred G's "Hunter Stance" or classic shooting form like Larry D Jones, there is only one chair that allows you to do that. Compared to any other hunting chair on the market, you'll not find yourself shooting more accurately from on a HuntMore 360º Chair. You'll be shooting more accurately and quicker using the HuntMore. Your seated shooting form on the HuntMore will more closely resemble your shooting form while standing. This is why I designed the chair with a rotational hub system. Also a rotating seat allows you to draw your bow with greater easy. When shooting from a seated position, you use more of your back muscles then when standing. When in a fixed position chair you're actually fighting the chair while drawing your bow. If the game you hunt always shows up right where you want them to stand and are set up for, buy a PacSeat, if not buy a HuntMore.
For those who want to be able to use your HuntMore Chair for "on the move hunting", here's a new trick that one of our customers showed us. You can fold up the HuntMore Chair up very much like a folding chair. Just remove the front hook of the bottom seat pad from the U-Shackle, leave the back two attached. Then flip the front of the bottom seat pad up parallel to the backrest. Spin the front hook 180º and attach it to the top of the backrest. Fold down the upper front seat pad leg and the three lower legs together. you can easily gun and run with the chair folded up this way. The chair balances in your hand between the upper hub and hinge. You can even add an over the shoulder strap and carry it that way. Some folks even strap their folded up HuntMore to their blinds and carry them together.
If you don't want to fold your chair up at all, some of the backpacks with a game shelf can be used to carry the chair completely assembled.
See: www.tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=109820#000000 (http://www.tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=109820#000000)
Doug makes a great product, we just believe we make a superior hunting chair. Neither chair is "Perfect" in all situations, we just believe ours is more perfect in more situations. We all have limited resources, if you can afford them both, buy them both, you'll be supporting your Trad brothers. There will always be fans of both products, friends and supporters. We're both Traditional Bowhunters to our souls and I'm sure his family like my family is thankful for the love and generous support the Trad community has shown us!
Thanks for letting speak my piece. I hope neither Doug or Biggie take any offense. I'm not looking for an argument or fight, I just want to set the record straight, from my bias view point.