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Title: I made a back quiver w/pics
Post by: 30coupe on October 13, 2011, 11:45:00 PM
After modifying the heck out of the Bear back quiver I bought, I finally decided to make one instead, so I found some 6 oz. pebble grained cowhide on the auction site and ordered a side (16 square feet) for $40 shipped. Since this was going to be experimental, I didn't want to spend a ton of money on what might become scraps of leather.

Anyway, it finally arrived yesterday and I set to work fashioning my first back quiver. Sorry, I don't have any build along pictures, I was kind of pressed for time and last night I had the "help" of my three year-old grandson as well. Oh, well, he had fun and it didn't really cost me all that much time. I just answered his 1001 questions while I worked.       :rolleyes:  

I sort of borrowed from Rob DiStefano's pattern, then added some of Nate Steen's features as well. One suggestion for Rob would be to add count the number of holes you punch along the bottom of the quiver body and make sure the bottom piece has that many holes too...don't ask me why...anyone need a small piece of leather with holes already punched.    :banghead:  

The leather is very soft, so no work is needed to make the quiver conform to my back. I added the trim piece around the top ala Howard Hill and Nate Steen (Sunset Hill) instead of the lace Rob used on his because of the soft leather. The trim effectively gives me three layers around the top of the quiver, which helps keep it from collapsing .

Anyway, here it is:

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Archery%20Stuff/Quiver1.jpg)  

I like to have some leather laces attached for tying on my jacket for the walk to the stand.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Archery%20Stuff/Quiver2.jpg)

I used another lace tied in a series of overhand knots as the divider. It also helps keep the mouth of the quiver open. Although you can't see it, I also added a piece of heavy leather in the bottom. I didn't want those Deltas coming though the soft 6 ounce leather bottom.

Tonight I made a bag for my extra tab, spare string, lighter, grunt tube, pliers, bow hanger, etc. I wasn't sure just how to go about it, so this is what I came up with.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Archery%20Stuff/Quiver3.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Archery%20Stuff/Quiver4.jpg)

The leather lace that holds the flap closed also attaches the bag to the quiver. I used my (not so) Speedy Stitcher to sew the bag. The seam is down the front because I could quite figure out how else to do it and create the flap all from one piece of leather. It was an odd shaped piece that I cut off when I cut out the body of the quiver. I wanted a flap to keep the stuff in and any rain or snow out.

After I took these pictures, I decided the strap was just too thin, so I doubled the thickness by gluing another layer to the original. That also gives me the smooth side out on both sides, which makes it easier to slide the quiver under my arm when moving through brush.

I'm sure there will be more mods to come, but so far I'm pretty happy with it. I plan to use the remaining leather to make a possibles bag for carrying what won't fit on my quiver or in my pockets, like lunch, extra gloves...whatever. That's going to have to wait though. I have to work tomorrow, then I'm headed down to De Witt to hunt with my sons again this weekend.
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Post by: 5deer on October 13, 2011, 11:50:00 PM
nice job.    :clapper:
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Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on October 13, 2011, 11:52:00 PM
Nice job!!
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Post by: xtrema312 on October 13, 2011, 11:59:00 PM
Looks great.
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Post by: tradlongbow on October 13, 2011, 11:59:00 PM
really good work.

Darren
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Post by: David Yukon on October 14, 2011, 12:02:00 AM
Good job! it look great! I love working with leather!
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on October 14, 2011, 12:05:00 AM
Great job.
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Post by: SportHunter on October 14, 2011, 12:23:00 AM
Very nice quiver.
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Post by: rrowslngr on October 14, 2011, 12:28:00 AM
Looks good. How many can you make for the $40?
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Post by: GRINCH on October 14, 2011, 12:52:00 AM
Nice job
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Post by: stujay on October 14, 2011, 01:22:00 AM
I'd say it looks real good. When are you going to start taking orders?
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Post by: Mudd on October 14, 2011, 08:25:00 AM
I love it!!

There is talent in sewing leather together and making it look good and you've got it!

Thanks for sharing.

God bless,Mudd
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Post by: YORNOC on October 14, 2011, 08:30:00 AM
Great job, feels good making it yourself, eh?
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Post by: ron w on October 14, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
Nice job, but I bet before to long you will want to make changes and you will make another....then another and so on....lol! After about 3-5 you get what you really want or need....but that's OK!! Enjoy the trip....that's what it's all about!
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Post by: Eugene Slagle on October 14, 2011, 09:13:00 AM
Sweet job there sir.

I need to do this very thing because I really need a longer bodied quiverto handle the 31" arrows I use & not have so much hanging out.
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Post by: Rustic on October 14, 2011, 09:40:00 AM
Very nice...
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Post by: wooddamon1 on October 14, 2011, 09:53:00 AM
Dig it!
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Post by: RkyMtn Joe on October 14, 2011, 10:48:00 AM
I agree with everyone else---you did a nice job.  I like the idea of the "accessories" being handy in the little bag you made to go with the quiver.  It all looks really nice.

Joe
Title: Re: I made a back quiver w/pics
Post by: 30coupe on October 14, 2011, 12:25:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by rrowslngr:
Looks good. How many can you make for the $40?
It looks like I could get two, so about 8 square feet per quiver, even if you don't mess up on the bottom...lol.

So far the only thing I might change is adding a layer to the bottom 3-4 inches of the body for added broadhead safety. That would mean taking it apart for sure. I'm not sure it is necessary. I'm also debating whether I'd just glue it on the inside or make it decorative and stitch it to the outside. I'm going to hunt with it awhile first and then decide.

I'm definitely not ready for production at this point. Still in r and d ;-). I hope it doesn't take 3-4 to get one that works. I did quite a bit of research before I started this one.

Thanks for the compliments. There is just something right about making your own gear. My arrows of cedar, made by me, nestled in a leather quiver made with my two hands and very basic tools. How trad is that! I know I can't improve on Jason's work, but the string on my Kanati is also of my own doing.  I like the independent aspect of traditional bow hunting.
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Post by: Jayb on October 14, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
Great job! I'm liking it
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Post by: TooManyHobbies on October 14, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Simple yet effective. Very good.    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Duker on October 14, 2011, 01:39:00 PM
Great job   :thumbsup:   You can be proud of this one   :archer:
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Post by: Shakes.602 on October 14, 2011, 01:48:00 PM
FINE WORK!!  I am in the Process of Making One Myself, and I Appreciate all the "My Quiver Pics" for Ideas!!  :thumbsup:   Y'all are The Greatest!!  :archer:
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Post by: Nate Steen . on October 19, 2011, 10:33:00 PM
looking good 30c.....how's it working in the field?
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Post by: Michigan Mark on October 19, 2011, 10:52:00 PM
It looks to me as if you are ready to go into production. When is the Christmas sale!
I just don't know about the divider as it would prevent the top leather from putting pressure on the arrows to minimize rattling.  

Great looking quiver and job well done. You should be proud.
Title: Re: I made a back quiver w/pics
Post by: 30coupe on October 19, 2011, 11:34:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Michigan Mark:
It looks to me as if you are ready to go into production. When is the Christmas sale!
I just don't know about the divider as it would prevent the top leather from putting pressure on the arrows to minimize rattling.  

Great looking quiver and job well done. You should be proud.
The top needs to stay open so you can remove/replace your arrows without a fight. The quiver is soft enough that it wraps around my back and bends in the middle to keep the arrows from rattling. Occasionally I'll hear a couple fletches rub together, but that's usually right after I put it on. Once I walk a ways, they seem to settle in an behave.
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Post by: Ben Maher on October 19, 2011, 11:34:00 PM
sweet ! Nice work mate !
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Post by: 30coupe on October 19, 2011, 11:38:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by sunset hill:
looking good 30c.....how's it working in the field?
So far pretty well. The only negative so far has been one of my pointy Zwickey Deltas poking out through the lacing on the bottom. I didn't put anything in the bottom except a second layer of thicker leather, which was smaller than the outside layer. I added a piece of carpet in the bottom of my other back quiver. I may do that with this one too, just to keep them from slipping down and slicing through my laces. How do you avoid this problem?
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Post by: WDELongbow on October 19, 2011, 11:53:00 PM
You can actually make leather "booties" for your broadheads (all attached together by a single piece of rawhide).  Here is a very interesting link on that aspect of a back quiver - protection from broadheads is addressed in the article.  This guys pouch is similar to yours.  Nice quiver!


http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=108356
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Post by: RainyDayBows on October 20, 2011, 12:09:00 AM
Great job I like the quiver bag very useful
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Post by: rdoggsilva on October 20, 2011, 12:46:00 AM
Looking good, great job.
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Post by: americanhunter7 on October 20, 2011, 12:58:00 AM
Hey 30c try getting a small piece of thick rawhide big enough to cover the inside bottom of your quiver and up the side about 3-4", soak with cool water until pliable and shape into a cup in the bottom of the quiver, or find a cup about the same diameter and shape the rawhide to the cup and let it dry. I used this rawhide idea on a backquiver I did and it seems to be keeping the BH's from poking through the leather.
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Post by: WDELongbow on October 20, 2011, 12:00:00 PM
Another benefit of the booties referenced in the attached article is that they ensure broadheads stay sharp (no touching each other).  Also, added safety in case you fall - will not be able to go through you quiver and puncture a kidney or something else lethal/fatal.
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Post by: hardtimes on October 20, 2011, 02:10:00 PM
Looks great!
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Post by: Nate Steen . on October 20, 2011, 02:22:00 PM
I make two pieces of leather the same size for the bottom, one for inside after it's laced.  It's a little large due to the inside circumference of the quiver, but that makes the leather cover the lacing.  Then I add another 1/2 piece of leather to go where the broadheads sit...making it 3 thicknesses of leather where the arrowheads are sitting...about 3/8" thick.  then I add the shag carpet to keep the broadheads from moving around.
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Post by: 30coupe on October 20, 2011, 06:12:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by sunset hill:
I make two pieces of leather the same size for the bottom, one for inside after it's laced.  It's a little large due to the inside circumference of the quiver, but that makes the leather cover the lacing.  Then I add another 1/2 piece of leather to go where the broadheads sit...making it 3 thicknesses of leather where the arrowheads are sitting...about 3/8" thick.  then I add the shag carpet to keep the broadheads from moving around.
That sounds like a plan! I have the pattern for the bottom piece. I can cut out another piece and leave it unpunched then add the carpet.

Thanks, Nate!
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Post by: 30coupe on October 20, 2011, 06:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by WDELongbow:
You can actually make leather "booties" for your broadheads (all attached together by a single piece of rawhide).  Here is a very interesting link on that aspect of a back quiver - protection from broadheads is addressed in the article.  This guys pouch is similar to yours.  Nice quiver!


 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=108356  
I made some, but I don't like them. I also read the article and tried it his way, but you have to push them all in at once. Then, if you take out one arrow, the bootie stays in the quiver. Putting one arrow back in is impossible. When I pull the whole bunch out, the booties usually want to stay in the bottom of the quiver...not worth the hassle!

I have found that broadheads get along just fine in there. As far as them dulling or clacking together, it doesn't seem to happen for me. I did slide the tip of one through the seam as mentioned above, but I believe Nate has the cure for that.

So far, I'm liking the quiver. Very few negatives that I can see. Pulling it under my arm makes traveling through brush a snap. Last weekend I spent 3 hours tracking a doe that my youngest son shot and only got one lung. She took us through some really nasty stuff and in the dark no less. I never had an issue with my quiver, even going over fences and crawling under limbs. I was pleasantly surprised.
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Post by: ranger 3 on October 20, 2011, 06:23:00 PM
That will work just fine
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Post by: 30coupe on October 20, 2011, 06:35:00 PM
By the way, we did recover his deer!    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Barry Rowland on October 20, 2011, 08:16:00 PM
Nice work!  I really like it (and the arrows too!)
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Post by: WESTBROOK on October 20, 2011, 08:23:00 PM
VERY nicely done!

Eric
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Post by: 30coupe on October 20, 2011, 10:07:00 PM
I added the extra layer of leather on the inside and also a layer of carpet on top of that. I'll give it the acid test this weekend, but I don't think anything can get through the seam now.

Thanks again Nate! I appreciate your help.
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Post by: Rob DiStefano on October 21, 2011, 08:42:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by 30coupe:
...I made some, but I don't like them. I also read the article and tried it his way, but you have to push them all in at once. Then, if you take out one arrow, the bootie stays in the quiver. Putting one arrow back in is impossible. When I pull the whole bunch out, the booties usually want to stay in the bottom of the quiver...not worth the hassle!
...
the better thing to do, at least for me, is having each bootie on a leather boot lace leash that's attached to the bottom of the quiver, and when the arrow is pulled out of the quiver the loose fit bootie slips off *outside* of the quiver's mouth and hangs overboard - then it's reasonably easy to reboot the arrow's head for a return back into the quiver.

either that, or *tight* fitting bootie, no leash, and remove by hand - but that can get you in trouble if yer in a hurry, and all that "flagging" motion isn't so good.  

in the long run, perhaps the better back/side quiver is an upside down bow quiver such as an efa totem or asbell, with straps added.  each head is well protected, but there's more effort in removing the arrow.  always about trade-offs, eh?   :dunno:
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Post by: straitera on October 21, 2011, 10:07:00 AM
Well done 30C! BQ's rool!
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Post by: 30coupe on October 21, 2011, 04:14:00 PM
Thanks, Buddy! It came out pretty well for my first attempt, I think. Now that I believe I have the bottom figured out, I think I'm good to go.

Rob, I'm going to try it a while without the booties. I have a pattern I made for booties for my Deltas that will work. It only requires stitching down one side. I use one as a final stalker. I have it attached to my bow with a piece of stretch cord. I know, leather would be more traditional, but the stretch cord makes it stay where I want it on the bow better.

To the woods in the morning...can't wait!