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Title: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: JApple on October 13, 2011, 07:45:00 PM
Need some help. I"m shooting a 50# lb Bob Sarrels longbow, using Carbon Express 250's with 175 Woodsmans.  Great arrow flight.  My broadheads seem to be "diving" at the last second, usually falling about 3-4" below my field points. My field points go right "where i'm looking" but the broadheads seem to be landing low.  Should I try different broadheads or a lighter 150 Woodsman?  What causes the last second "dive"?  Thanks for your help.

J
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: A.S. on October 13, 2011, 07:50:00 PM
Try lowering your nock point very slightly (1/8" at a time). If it get worse, try raising it.  You will find the spot where everything lines up properly.
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: Tajue17 on October 13, 2011, 08:23:00 PM
A.S. is right,, or cut the feathers off one of the target arrows and tell us what its doing.

I've also had that broadhead drop on nicely tuned arrows  when I got some brighter arrow nocks and they where too tight snapping on,,

make sure they barely hold the arrow on the string and if not on one arrow stick a broadhead file into the nock where the string would go and rip it out once a time in the direction the string would pull out (this is what I do) then try shooting it.
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: Hill Hunter on October 13, 2011, 08:28:00 PM
they will also do that if not properly aligned on the shaft. its easy to make a alignment tool at home, helped me a lot.,
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: Friend on October 13, 2011, 08:40:00 PM
Would also follow "A. S.'s" recommendation, however I am a little more conservative and would adjust the nock point 1/16" at a time unless I am way off.

I attempt to identify the range where decent flight is obtained and finalize the nock set at center.
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: A.S. on October 13, 2011, 08:56:00 PM
Friend, I almost typed 1/16" on my orig post...but didn't. LOL

I use adjustable tie on nock sets, and usually move mine the width of one serving twist at a time (about 1/16" I'd say).
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: JApple on October 13, 2011, 09:01:00 PM
thanks guys, good info.
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: Cookus on October 13, 2011, 09:14:00 PM
At what distance are you shooting?   Are you right or left handed?   Are you canting the bow?   All of these factors are important... The more info we have, the more sound advice we can give...
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: Hud on October 13, 2011, 09:20:00 PM
Spine the broadheads, point down on a smooth service and straighten any heads that are off, and check the nocks for alignment.
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: JApple on October 13, 2011, 10:42:00 PM
Cookus,
mainly shoot at 15-20 yards, sometimes out to 25.  What I'm seeing is that in general the broadheads hit lower and sometimes actually dive bomb right as they get to the target.  What I'm hoping for is for field points/broadheads that shoot exactly the same or as close as possible.  I wasn't sure if this might be a Woodsman problem or a problem with my setup. Thanks to all!
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: buckracks7 on October 14, 2011, 05:31:00 AM
It wouldn't hurt to try a lighter broadhead. I keep a wide assortment for experimentation.
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: Stone Knife on October 14, 2011, 06:13:00 AM
Make sure your coming to full draw.
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: Friend on October 14, 2011, 06:48:00 AM
JApple...to directly answer you latest question.

Tuned woodsmans will fly dead-on with bare shafts and fletched shafts provided shaft is tuned properly. Have used woodsmans on at least three different bows and they were all tuned to hit precisely with the fletched shafts.

After proper tuning and BH tuning verification....If I happen to shoot a woodsman that is off the mark, then I automatically know it was due to a form issue. Woodsmans have been quite easy for me to tune.

Don't accept less....
Title: Re: Broadheads dropping in flight
Post by: Javi on October 14, 2011, 07:26:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by JApple:
Cookus,
mainly shoot at 15-20 yards, sometimes out to 25.  What I'm seeing is that in general the broadheads hit lower and sometimes actually dive bomb right as they get to the target.  What I'm hoping for is for field points/broadheads that shoot exactly the same or as close as possible.  I wasn't sure if this might be a Woodsman problem or a problem with my setup. Thanks to all!
While it's possible to get a bad broadhead on occasion, most will fly and impact with your field points if the shaft spine is correct and the broadhead is aligned to the shaft. However this assumes that the shaft is straight, the fletching is sufficient to counter the steerage of the blade, the nock fit is good and the archers release is reasonably smooth and consistent.