I have some 140gr Magnus 2blades and every time I hit something half way solid, the tip curls up and is useless. I am looking for a 125gr 2 blade that is tough as nails. Help please
Yes ABOWYER,,I don't think you can bend 3/16's thick tanto pointed steel... also go into centaur's website and see vids of his 2-blade heads being shot into some concrete blocks with no tip damage.
I'm sure theres more,, AND it depends on what your hitting with it too.
I've never bent a Zwickey Delta - the reason I'm shooting them this fall.
Steel Force 225 single bevels aint nenver bent either and I've killed a couple of deer with them (50 grains more than my current arrows like or I'd be shooting them again)
File the needle point off and they more than likely will not bend again. I've do this to all my heads .. never bent one sense.
x2 on file the tip. I do that with zwickey's and my magnus. I curled the tip on a moose a few years back and since then I've always filed the tip and no issues since.
good advice on filing the tip down, could someone post a picture of their tip filed down if they have time? thanks
Check out STOS broadheads.They are similar in design,decent priced,ferrules are very true,have a tanto tip and are strong.I believe they have a 130.I've had that happen on a Magnus and it caused some problems.Filing any needle tip to a tanto will help a lot.Almost any needle tip could curl if it hits something hard enough.
Check out the muzzy 220. I shot one into a concrete wall and no bending. I got one to bend but had to smash it with a hammer.
i have bent zwickeys but its no easy to do, i actually stuck one in a rock a few years ago !! i agree on knocking off the needle point,
Check out the Ace Standard broadheads. I have hit a lot of junk and ain't bent a tip on one yet.
VPA
Red Feather Archery has come out with a single bevel 2 blade that is tough as any I've seen. It is called the Razorhawk and is available in 100, 125 and 150 GR. They cost a lot less than some of the other single bevel heads out there. The guy that owns Red Feather is a member on here and a super nice guy that is willing to talk personally to any of his customers.
QuoteOriginally posted by erictetterton:
I am looking for a 125gr 2 blade that is tough as nails. Help please
Ace Standard.
Ace Standard x 2...bombproof. You'll break the arra before you mess up the head.
Magnus STINGER-----never bent one, and I have put a few in the dirt :knothead:
I find most anything in the 125 gr to be weak. Most all of the heavier BHs mentioned are satisfactory. The single bevels seem to be tougher. I highly recommend abowyers.
Grizzlys....Concordes
Another vote for a STOS broadhead since the tip doesn't curl and STOS come in 130, 145 and 160 grains.
ABOWYER'S all the way.
ACE Std..
Last year at the pig gig to prove a point I shot my ACE standard at a rock at about 18-20 yards, bounced back about ten feet, touched it up with a file, spin tested it and it shot perfect. Triple layered tip, interlocking ferrule.
Ace standard or STOS. Both great!!Bob
I think any of the standard heads with long points will bend if they hit something hard enough. Once they start to bend it takes much less force to continue it (I think).
There are some simple answers, as brought out by those above. Reshape the tip so it is beefier. That's why the newer heads went to a tanto design, more metal, less chance of bending.
ChuckC
Don't forget to check out the VPA Penetrators too.
Buy a head with a warranty....all tips will curl if the circumstances are right. Look at Eclipse heads for great performance and the best warranty in the business.
I have yet to curl the tip in a STOS head.
D
Another one for the STOS here!
CJ
Ace broadheads .
NOW HEAR THIS..........NOW HEAR THIS!
:thumbsup: STOS, I repeat.....STOS! :thumbsup:
abowyer,simmons tree shark,stos all at 160 grain or heavier.I think in my experience the heavier the more metal the stronger the head.
I often practice with broadheads by shooting into dirt banks. The down side is that sometimes there are rocks hidden in the dirt. I have used Grizzly, Zwickey, Concorde, Ace 200 grain, Ace 160 Standard, Woodsman, Snuffer, Magnus I and Stos. They all bend if you hit a rock at the right (wrong?) angle but the Ace 160 is by far the toughest and least likely to bend at the tip or break at the ferrule in my experience - for the cost they are tough to beat.
I don't know why I did it but I did.. Helix VS Concrete wall. The Helix is still in service..
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If you'll notice it hit the wall so hard the glue came loose from the fletch....
Wow that Helix is impressive!
Been using a 125gr Magnus Stinger for years now without a single failure with numerous kills. Love em! Most times can still shave hair with em after pulling them out of the dirt
Most of our current broadheads are plenty tough. These pics are of the point I put on my heads; easily done with a good file. These are Zwickey Deltas, but it works great on any head. I've never seen one curl. Get rid of the fine needle point, they can curl on any head.
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I cannot imagine any 2 blade head being any stronger than the new Tuffhead with the ferule extending almost to the tanto point.
Take a look at the Tusker line. Braveheart archery (sponsor here) sells them. They are super tuff broadheads!
simmons
Eclipse single bevel in 125 - blew through an off-side leg bone of a whitetail for me opening day. Point was fine. It is triple layered at the tip. Mine didn't come with a needle point.
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This one didn't bend!!!
Magnus Stingers
QuoteOriginally posted by KentuckyTJ:
VPA
x2 :bigsmyl: :campfire:
For the money, Magnus Stingers, lifetime warranty IF it does bend.
Ive curled the tip on an ACE standard 160. Never thought it would happen, but it did. Magnus Stingers 125 4 blades and Simmons Sharks are what I'm using now.
I've bent Simmons, Razorheads, Woodsmans, Snuffers, Muzzys, Ace, Grizzly and probably a few others I can't recall.
I suppose you can bend 'em all, but the Eclipse 145's are about as tough as they come.
Werewolfs
Thanks for the pictures. I'm headed in the right direction. I got 2 of my heads filed down and I am going to try them out tomorrow. Does filing down the tip effect the flight or spin of the tip?
The tip work won't affect flight at all and spin only if you get it off center.
It only takes a few strokes from the file on each side. As you can see, I keep "tanto" pretty small the angle kinda steep. The edges and point are still sharp, but very durable.
Fletcher, I was shown the same way to sharpen the tip over 30 years ago, and have not bent a point from then on. STOS sharpens their point like that right from the package. I guess you could still bend one, but it would be an extream hit.
QuoteOriginally posted by Fletcher:
The tip work won't affect flight at all and spin only if you get it off center.
It only takes a few strokes from the file on each side. As you can see, I keep "tanto" pretty small the angle kinda steep. The edges and point are still sharp, but very durable.
Exactly this... most glue on 2 blades are pretty tough heads if you do this, a small modification that makes a HUGE difference. A needle point is just a bend looking for a place to happen.
Good to see you posting Rick have not seen you around in a while!