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Title: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: Badwithabow on October 11, 2011, 09:40:00 PM
Well just as it says I have some muzzy phantoms and took the bleeders off what's your thoughts on it? Do they make that much of a difference?
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: straitera on October 11, 2011, 09:43:00 PM
Couldn't get Bears w/bleeders to fly right many moons ago. Flew perfect w/o combined w/penetration advantage I see no need.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: TxAg on October 11, 2011, 10:02:00 PM
I'm a 4 blade fan. I just seem to get better holes and bloodtrails...doesn't matter if it's a trad bow or a compound. I like the extra blades.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: Thebear_78 on October 11, 2011, 11:45:00 PM
I like the phantoms without bleeders myself.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: 30coupe on October 12, 2011, 12:29:00 AM
Never used Phantoms, but I agree with straitera on the Bears. I just like 2 blade heads though. I like the penetration I get.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: stujay on October 12, 2011, 12:47:00 AM
If broadhead tunes well with both bleeders and without, then with bleeders on deer sized game and smaller, without for larger game. It has been shown that the muzzy phantoms penetrate better without the bleeders.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: Coiloil37 on October 12, 2011, 01:29:00 AM
I would shoot the phantoms with the bleeders, if I wanted to shoot a two blade it would be something thicker like a grizzly or abowyer.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: Huntinfool7 on October 12, 2011, 01:42:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by straitera:
Couldn't get Bears w/bleeders to fly right many moons ago. Flew perfect w/o combined w/penetration advantage I see no need.
+1

My thoughts exactly!

~HF~
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: Bill Carlsen on October 12, 2011, 09:14:00 AM
Phantoms with bleeders will fly perfectly, penetrate just as well and give you better blood trails/quicker kills.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: Terry Green on October 12, 2011, 09:17:00 AM
What are you HUNTING????

Leave them out if you are hunting BIG big Game....but put them back in if you are hunting whitetails.  I won't hunt whitetails without multi blades.

If you can't get a 4 blade through a whitetail, you have other issues with your set up, or you jammed the shoulder socket.....and no 2 blade is guaranteed to go through that.

  :campfire:
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: wv lungbuster on October 12, 2011, 09:27:00 AM
I agree with Terry. Whitetails are easy to blow threw even with lower poundage, but your arrows have to be tuned and fling straight. I don't see why a little old bleeder would cause poor arrow flight. And I use four blades all the time.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 12, 2011, 09:34:00 AM
Yeah what are you hunting? What is your bow pounds at your draw?

I shot many critters with those a few years back. With my light 50lb bows I didn't like the drag those big bleeders created hindering my penetration even on a deer.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: awbowman on October 12, 2011, 09:47:00 AM
Put the bleeders on except for BIG game AND Pigs.

The multiblade would be better for pigs IF you could guarantee penetration, but penetration trumps bloodtrail when pig hunting IMO.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: mark land on October 12, 2011, 11:11:00 AM
I much prefer 4bl heads for all game and choose my setups to give me the penetration I need with a multi blade head, just prefer the holes they put in animals but ensure I get complete penetration as well.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: Badwithabow on October 12, 2011, 12:35:00 PM
I'm shootin a 57# bow axis .400s around 535 total weight...
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: JamesKerr on October 12, 2011, 12:44:00 PM
I would leave the bleeders in for any game in US with that setup.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: Terry Green on October 12, 2011, 01:10:00 PM
Brandon......I'm in Calhoun.....look me up sometime.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: hardtimes on October 12, 2011, 06:37:00 PM
I always use the bleeders with my old Bear Razorheads. They have always preformed very well.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 12, 2011, 06:53:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Badwithabow:
I'm shootin a 57# bow axis .400s around 535 total weight...
You will be fine with the bleeders at that poundage. Now get you a KME so you can really get them sharp.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: erictetterton on October 12, 2011, 07:29:00 PM
Has anyone ever tried a G5 montec 3 blade? I get good flight with those.
Title: Re: to bleed-er or not to bleeder that is the ?
Post by: Terry Green on October 12, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
Those G5s are too snubby for me....not near as a penetrating design as a WW....and being powdered metal they don't sharpen easy, wont get as sharp, nor do they stay sharp.

I never tried their 3 blade...but fooled around in the back yard with one of there two blades....same powdered metal process.