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Title: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: huntmaster80 on October 10, 2011, 04:43:00 PM
I have tried the stick on arrow holder that you put on the opposite side of the riser and wrap around and put the rubber 3/4 circle aground the arrow, but my gt 3555 slips through it when I draw. It doesn't pop off like it is supposed to then spring back out of the way for the shot.

I probably just put it on wrong, but I can't take a pic and sows everyone, because I ripped it off on my way into the woods the other day.

I guess im looking for advise on what product to buy to prevent my arrows from falling off?       :help:
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: Thebear_78 on October 10, 2011, 04:53:00 PM
best one I have ever found was my left pointer finger.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: huntmaster80 on October 10, 2011, 05:14:00 PM
Yea I guess that would work pretty good. Plus it isn't gona get torn off while walking into the woods. Hopefully!!!
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: rmcpb on October 10, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
Sometimes simpler is best  :)

The pointer finger works for me as well.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: Jeff Strubberg on October 10, 2011, 05:34:00 PM
Are you talking about while you are sitting on stand or during the draw?
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: huntmaster80 on October 10, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
While sitting on my stand while it is hanging on my bow hanger. I have lost 2 arrows to wind and one I bumped my bow and bombs away arrow to the ground lol
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: Robertfishes on October 10, 2011, 05:44:00 PM
I shoot 3555's and 5575's no problems with this arrow holder, I have them on 4 of the bows I have now and have had one on a dozen I used to have. I think it's called "kwik lok".. 3 Rivers, Black Widow and Big Jim all carry them     (http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/Robertfishes/SANY0344.jpg)  (http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/Robertfishes/kwiklok.jpg)
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Post by: Bobby Urban on October 10, 2011, 07:46:00 PM
I drill a tiny hole in the back of the riser on all my bows, glue in an 1/8-1/4" pin(I use a piece of coat hanger)  Get yourself a lifetime supply of tiny hair tie rubber bands at wally world.  Hook the band onto the pin, wrap it around your arrow and back to the pin.  Fool proof and when you draw the bow it falls away.  

Many do not want to put one on there bow but I use my bows as a tool and it works perfectly.  It is also nearly undetectable and will not effect the riser in any way.

if you email me I will send you pics.

bniceurban@gmail.com

Bob Urban
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: heydeerman on October 10, 2011, 09:25:00 PM
I have tried all of these arrow grabbers and they have not always worked the way they are supposed to. I like the bow across the lap with an arrow on the string with my hand on the bow and my finger on the arrow trick. Never fails.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: TxAg on October 10, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
Bobby, email sent

I'm curious about this as well. I like my hands in my pockets while on stand.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: sweeney3 on October 10, 2011, 11:53:00 PM
Lean your bow over to the side.  Also, check your grip.  Might be torquing the sting.  Mainly though, cant your bow some.  And shoot off the shelf/finger.  Not as much to go wrong.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 11, 2011, 05:38:00 AM
OK - here it is on a BigHorn GS, a Northern Mist Whisper and a Great Northern Ghost.  I do this to all my bows before I ever shoot them.  It is just part of a finished bow for me and I know many would think it sacralige to drill into their riser but, like I said, my bows are hunting tools.  For me this is no different than adding a quiver or string silencers.  Mount it equal to or just slightly below the shelf so the rubber band pulls the arrow into the corner.  Works sweet and is fool proof.  
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/bushbow/arrow%20stuff/arrowholderpin005.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/bushbow/arrow%20stuff/arrowholderpin006.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/bushbow/arrow%20stuff/arrowholderpin007.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/bushbow/arrow%20stuff/arrowholderpin008.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/bushbow/arrow%20stuff/arrowholderpin009.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/bushbow/arrow%20stuff/IMG_1663.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh205/bushbow/arrow%20stuff/IMG_1661.jpg)
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: ckanous on October 11, 2011, 05:56:00 AM
Bobby you talked me into this....I'm gonna go drill my Hoyt Buffalo for one of these!! Been thinking about it anyways but I have bumped my bow to many times getting it off the hook and dropped my arrow or just knocked it off the shelf.
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Post by: Tique on October 11, 2011, 06:14:00 AM
Mine is similar to the one pictured above except, instead of a pin, I velcro a flat piece of wood to the side of the riser.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: stykbow67 on October 11, 2011, 09:30:00 AM
Well, you all have talked me into it.

Thanks, Steve
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Post by: freeman on October 11, 2011, 09:03:00 PM
I don't know how durable it would be, but how about mounting a pin like Bobby does into a small base and gluing it to the riser with contact cement? It would be removable and not require drilling on your bow.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: Thumper Dunker on October 11, 2011, 09:14:00 PM
Genius idea thanks. Now wheres my drill.
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Post by: eflanders on October 11, 2011, 10:45:00 PM
Don't drill!  You can use a 1/8" diameter stick about 3" long.  Attach a single rubber band to each end.  Use one to hold the stick on the opposite side of your arrow shelf.  Use the other rubber band to hold the arrow onto the shelf.  It's free, it's removable and it works!
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: kojac on October 12, 2011, 12:38:00 AM
eflanders, can you post a picture, I have done what you are descibing but it took me many year to understand untill I saw the picture.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 12, 2011, 06:29:00 AM
JMO and I understand those that don't want to drill into their bow but it is just a little tiny hole and the pin only needs to be an 1/8" or so.  If you do a nice job it is almost undetectable.  I never sell bows so I don't worry about that but if I needed to I am certain I could remove the pin and fill the hole so that it was undetectable.  

I just feel the more I add glue on, tape on, rubberband on parts the more that could fail at a critical moment it the woods.  

Not knocking anyone's design because there are many ways to skin a cat but seriously, how many take their arrow holder off after the season?  

Regarding eflanders holder - a larger, strong rubberband goes around the riser in the arrow rest area holding a pin or stick to the back side(right side for a RH shooter) that extends beyond the riser in the back/belly.  This extended pin is what your hair tie connects to that holds your arrow.  Very effective but for me this adds too much to my arrow shelf and leaves to many options for failure to come into play.  It also moves the holding band farther away from the arrow on a large/thick riser bow.  Again, JMO. Although I take care of my equipment and have some bows that are/were costly to aquire I still feel they ultimately are tools for my goal of hunting sucess and a bow is not finished until it has the pin.  

Keep em sharp -

Bob Urban
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: Stinger on October 12, 2011, 09:46:00 AM
I was looking for the same thing last year.  When it gets cold, it gets difficult to hold the arrow with your index finger for very long.  I tried eflanders holder idea last year and it cost me 2 bucks.  On the first one, it failed to release cleanly and the arrow deflected away.  Like an idiot I used it the next day and managed to mouth grunt a monster running buck that was chasing a doe to a stop just 15 yards away.  This time I tried using my string hand to release the thing before I drew and I couldn't get the damn thing undone before he ran off.  I threw all of my toothpick and rubber band devices away after that.  I now use a similar holder to the one pictured, but it is an older design that is smaller that I can't find for sale any more.

Bobby's idea looks good, but even though my bows are tools, I won't drill a hole in them.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: Bull Elk on October 12, 2011, 10:02:00 AM
Hey, here is a good alternative to drilling the riser.  Use a long thumb tack, with a large flat head, and glue it on the belly of the riser, facing backwards.  Use barge cement, and it will be easily removed, if & when you want to take it off.Remember to file the sharp point off of the tack. How's that for the , " Tip Of The Day "?   PS:  You might have to use a large carpet tack.  Jim
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: reddogge on October 12, 2011, 10:10:00 AM
The thought of drilling my bows gives me the heebie jeebies. Sorry, no can do.
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Post by: sidebuster on October 12, 2011, 06:11:00 PM
Piece of  self adhesive Velcro coming from somewhere on your bow going under your arrow and sticking back to some place on your bow.  Then undo when ready to shoot but be sure you let long strip of Velcro stick back out of the way somewhere  on your bow.

Personally I just put the bow on my lap until I ready.  If the bow in in a horizontal position it will never fall off the shelf.  Never has been an issue for me.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: eflanders on December 06, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
I make a simple arrow holder that is easily moved from bow to bow and it will not leave any marks or residue.  I call it the FTS Arrow Holder and it was tested by several fellow Tradgang members.  It is easy to use, silent, lightweight, reliable and weatherproof.  It consists of a specially hardened brass rod that is shaped to retain the mounting bands. The brass rod is covered with a special black rubber coating to protect the finish of your bow.  It is available in two sizes: Longbow & Recurve.  The Longbow model will also fit your selfbows.  Feel free to contact me for more information.  (http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h358/ftsllc/FTSArrowHolderPics002.jpg)
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Post by: RkyMtn Joe on December 06, 2011, 12:49:00 PM
I can't imagine why the arrow holder doesn't fall off of the arrow when you draw?  Maybe it wasn't installed right or something?

When I install one, I clip it onto the arrow first, and get it in the correct position before peeling the paper off of the tape side.  Then with it still attached to the arrow which is nocked and on the rest, I make sure it is tight before allowing it to stick on the backside of the riser.

With that kind of installation I can't draw an arrow more than an inch or two before it pops right off and out of the way.

Joe
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: eflanders on December 06, 2011, 02:04:00 PM
If you look at the picture in my post, notice the small exposed end of the brass rod.  This is polished to a mirror finish so that the band releases with just an inch or two of draw.  It is important that you use the right length / model for the width of your riser.  If not, the release may be inconsistent due to the amount of tension of the band on the arrow.  With this system, the band stays on the holder at all times so it is totally silent and it clears the rest so as to not hinder arrow flight. You will also note that there are no adhesives used to mount the holder.
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: Shortlongbow on December 06, 2011, 02:30:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by heydeerman:
I have tried all of these arrow grabbers and they have not always worked the way they are supposed to. I like the bow across the lap with an arrow on the string with my hand on the bow and my finger on the arrow trick. Never fails.
I agree with this approach. Be ready at all times. Game will appear when you least expect it. Goes for still hunting too. You may not have time to knock an arrow.
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Post by: Bjorn on December 06, 2011, 03:04:00 PM
Yeah-my bows won't be getting any drilling either!   :scared:
My pointer finger was put on my hand for a reason!!     :archer2:
Title: Re: how do i keep my arrow from falling off rest?
Post by: eflanders on December 06, 2011, 06:56:00 PM
I admit that for years I did the finger thing too.  But there are times that I wanted my bow and arrow ready and both hands free.  A good  example would be in the cold weather I wear a hand muff to keep my hands warm or when looking through my binoculars.  I also did the drill thing to a recurve of mine.  It works, but the rubber band falls off when you draw and can spook game.  To keep the band from falling off you need a hook or something bigger and I just didn't want to modify my bow with that much permanent hardware.