Anybody have any ideas on the ultimate public land treestand...something very light, quiet, quick and easy?
Lone Wolf Alpha hand climber.
Loc-on Limit (assuming a hang-on is ok)
I have the muddy bloodsport and really like it. I put molle two straps and kidney belt on it. Very nice to carry it
Chris
Lone wolf
Lone wolf is so doggon expensive though...
loc on is not an option...will be traveling miles into the woods and may have stand on back for hours checking acorn trees for that perfect tree.
They are expensive, but the Lone Wolf Alpha and a set of sticks are the answer you are looking for.
QuoteOriginally posted by Flyboy718:
Lone wolf is so doggon expensive though...
loc on is not an option...will be traveling miles into the woods and may have stand on back for hours checking acorn trees for that perfect tree.
i know what you mean. 400 bucks for a stand is crazy for me. i have the small lock on grilla and use 3 4' sticks. i attach the lock on to my backpack with the straps i'll use for the stand. carry the sicks in my right hand and my bow in my right. 90% of my hunting is on public land and i have to use a boat to access it then walk a mile to "my" spots......
I think I might like the Lone Wolf Assualt hand climber...where is the cheapest place to get one. They are $369 at Cabelas.
So climber only?
stick in my left and bow in my right..... i only have one right hand!
I don't see why the Loc On Limit is not an option. Weighs something like 7-8 lbs. I doubt there are too many stands that light. I've used one for years and it's the best I've found.
Lone wolf hand climber....I have had mine so long, it was $189 when I bought it from an Archery Dealer. I know in these times it's hard to spend a lot of money on something like that....but you only have to do it once!
QuoteOriginally posted by Jack Shanks:
I don't see why the Loc On Limit is not an option. Weighs something like 7-8 lbs. I doubt there are too many stands that light. I've used one for years and it's the best I've found.
Loc on's in my opinion just take too long to set up as opposed to a climber and it can be rather noisy setting up a loc on...don't get me wrong, I have three loc ons on my private property and think they are the cats meow for bowhunting but on public land for mobility/quietness and long hauls in and out of the woods a climber is the way to go I believe.
watch the classifieds.... I have seen them go for $200-$250 in excellent condition..... =) good investment if you ask me!
QuoteOriginally posted by Flyboy718:
QuoteOriginally posted by Jack Shanks:
I don't see why the Loc On Limit is not an option. Weighs something like 7-8 lbs. I doubt there are too many stands that light. I've used one for years and it's the best I've found.
Loc on's in my opinion just take too long to set up as opposed to a climber and it can be rather noisy setting up a loc on...don't get me wrong, I have three loc ons on my private property and think they are the cats meow for bowhunting but on public land for mobility/quietness and long hauls in and out of the woods a climber is the way to go I believe. [/b]
i can put my sticks together and hang my stand and be sitting down with an arrow on the string in less then 10 min.
With the Lone Wolf hang-on and climbing sticks, they can be set-up as quickly and quietly as a climber and you can use them in trees that won't work with a climber. Better option than finding the tree you need to be in, only to discover you can't use it. The hang-on is also cheaper.
QuoteOriginally posted by Crash:
With the Lone Wolf hang-on and climbing sticks, they can be set-up as quickly and quietly as a climber and you can use them in trees that won't work with a climber. Better option than finding the tree you need to be in, only to discover you can't use it. The hang-on is also cheaper.
Exactly. Ten to fifteen minutes from finding a tree to sitting in it, and I don't have to walk away from a tree in the right spot because it has limbs sticking out of it. The only noise problem is exatcly the same one you have with a climber, and that's unpacking everything at the base of the tree.
Chippewa Makes the smallest lightest treestand I've ever seen-- fits in a daypack! I think it's the "ghost" model......
For me it would be the lone wolf hand climber if the area had lots of medium to small trees without much branching. I don't have one, but I would like one for spots I know it would work for when I head in.
For everything else I use my assault hang on. I put up stick ladders tied on and hid well in private property areas I hunt. Then I just carry in the stand, climb with it on my back, hang, jump in, and pull up the bow and other stuff. Reverse process to get out. Way faster and quieter than a climber. I would just add a set of lone wolf or other light aluminum sticks for public land. I don't think that combo would have a whole lot more weight than the climber.
It would not be my thing with my physical condition, but the ultra light way to go would be a set of lone wolf sticks and an assassin platform with or without a sling harness system. That or just the sticks and sling.
Summit Openshot is nice and goes for $200-$230. You can find them on tons of websites.
"Loc-On, (the brand) been using them forever.. I don't hike in any more and pretty much hunt my own property but if you want a solid, light and quick stand to use with "sticks" or bolts the Loc-On's are the ones.
I will not pay the price for a LW.
Everyone i know uses a Summit..They all love them.. if i am packing in a ways i am using my gillie suit and tree seat on the ground...if i find the right tree..then i make a plan on how to best use it..maybe a cheap climber i can pack in once and lock at bottom of tree, for the season.. maybe hide it with brush.. just food for thought...
flyboy
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tree saddle
I use a muddy stand and sticks, they are awesome! I carry it in and take it down usually the same sit. Very easy to use and the whole setup is only about 23lbs
Tree saddle + cedar tree = perfect tree stand in about 5 minutes. ( lots of nice cedars where I hunt)
4 pounds total
I use a small Gorilla Silverback HX with 3 Lone Wolf minis sticks. About 15 lbs total. Up the tree and hunting within 10 mins. I also have a Lone Wolf Alpha hand climber, but I like the versitility of the lock-on.
LW climber but for a fixed stand the Chippewa Wedge-Loc is tough to beat! Very light and easily the quietest stand out there. With a set of lightweight climbing sticks and a few home-made brackets you can be up the tree and hunting within a minute of using a LW climber. Shawn
My vote goes to the Lone Wolf. I need to use the sit & climb model, but if I could, I'd use the hand climber - it's even lighter.
My vote goes for the Loc On Limit. Here's a pic of my setup, stand, sticks, safety gear, 1/2 dozen rope on's and every thing else you need to spend 12 hours straight in a tree. Just threw it on the scale and it comes in at 20.9 pounds. With this setup I can silently get 25' up any tree in under 10 minutes. Not a fan of climbers, your limited by what trees you can get into, with this setup I can get up just about any tree.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/Yellowdog3822/P5270608.jpg)
That's the only bad thing with the hang-on and sticks you fig in the weight of everything and you around 20lbs. the lone wolf hand climbers is a lighter setup.
LW with sticks for the past 15 years. Put on pack straps AND a pack belt and you hardly notice you have it. Sticks are mounted to foam blocks. Totally quiet. 10 min up. Another option though is the tree saddle. I do not have a chippewa but they are equally impressive.
Dan
I have had 2 of the Loc-Ons for years. My favorite stand. Couple one of them with rapid rails and its good for any tree. Climbers limit you too much to a straight tree without limbs. I actually prefer the ugly trees with limbs and crooked trunks. They seem to provide a lot of cover.
At 51 years old I still carry a stand and sticks on my back all day! Just put on back pack straps and backpack hip belt. I also use a walking stick. I carry/scout all season for hours a day- rarely hunt the same tree twice. 15-20# on my hips is nothing.
Good Hunting
Dan
Lone Wolf Hand climber. It's well worth the money. I use a strap attached to the seat to make it a sit and climb. Works great and I think now they offer for it as an option. I got mine 2nd hand on E*** for around $250 it was used one time. I used my last climber for 18 years. While it may be a lot of money upfront it isn't a lot when you look at it over a period of time.
It is not the most comfortable stand out there, but for me the 4-5 pound weight difference between the LW and most other stands, ease of packing and stability outweigh any negatives including the price. I own 3 Gorilla hang on stands and a set of sticks but I never use them. I can set up my climber with less noise and effort and faster.
Tree saddle. It's about the only thing I use.
Loc on with a woodpecker drill or rope steps.RC